TWG CXLII - A Storm of Hard and Boiled [Game Thread]

[YoshL]

from what i read through, i do think there's a legit reason to kill sunfan, even if he did soft blue a bunch of times, there's a potential that it wouldn't placate the wolves; maybe sunfan was baiting or something.

roundbox might have softed who he was hiding behind, i dunno who sunfan softed. this info may come in handy

but in any case, with both roundbux and sunfan dead, there's never more than 1 wolf in that pile obviously, so at worst, we're at 10, with 3 wolves

[XelNya]

Originally Posted by 27ninjabunnies

I find it weird you dont do flips in forum games.

I doubt he was pr, but maybe wolves thought he was. He softed not being a pr to me earlier in the thread,

So I'm gonna go off the assumption that wolves are bad and we still have all our prs in play. Which is good for us

So who would kill greg?

And what about round? Did we see any softing of hider? If so, we might want to look to who he said he was gonna hide behind.

Is it normal to have 2 night kills?

In this forum it's sort of game pending, most have flips, this is actually one of the more rare games that actually doesn't have it.

I also wanna say I think having all three PR's alive at this point is a bad assumption. I'd go 2 / 3 at best due to the two kills.

Better to assume we're doing poorly.

[XelNya]

Forgot to add: having two night kills means the hider died I think.

[XelNya]

That'd be my guess anyways.

[XelNya]

Upon reviewing the role I feel safe to say the hider is dead

[Red Blaster]

Originally Posted by YoshL

there should be a petition to actually re-ban red blaster from twg

Move on with your life.

As far as game related things:
I don't think mashi was scummy and by default I don't think you're scummy. i was just remarking on the hilarity of you finding him scummy then backpedaling once you replaced him.

And if I were a wolf you would've been my highest priority target, simply because it's you and I don't think the mashi kill could've been attributed to me in any way, so given the fact that you're still here, ya know whatever. So yeah..let's stop this pointless arguing and find the actual scum.

[XelNya]

So thing to do is sift through greggles and roundy and see if either hinted they were going to hide somewhere

If nothing's found I'd probably just assume scum got lucky

[XelNya]

In fact what are the odds greg was hider, hid behind charu who is scum and died for it

because that would just be hilarious as fuck as a side note

[XelNya]

Note that I am not saying charu is scum just simply saying it'd be funny if what I just said happened

[XelNya]

Because I'll be laughing hysterically if that was the case in post game

[XelNya]

Also I'm fine giving yoshl a town lean for time being for being upfront about his pre-replacement views

[XelNya]

Like as a scum there'd be no reason to do that, even just to sell it for coming in a little more genuine. The risk / reward doesn't feel decent enough there for that to me, but that's just my opinion

[YoshL]

Originally Posted by Red Blaster

Move on with your life.

As far as game related things:
I don't think mashi was scummy and by default I don't think you're scummy. i was just remarking on the hilarity of you finding him scummy then backpedaling once you replaced him.

And if I were a wolf you would've been my highest priority target, simply because it's you and I don't think the mashi kill could've been attributed to me in any way, so given the fact that you're still here, ya know whatever. So yeah..let's stop this pointless arguing and find the actual scum.

nice job, good thing that wolves usually try to get rid of blues because they're the ones who can start confirming things, instead of going for kills that won't incriminate anyone?

besides with cardflips off, it's hard to really say "that kill really paints x as a wolf"

it's not pointless given the fact that you're trying to weave your way to the side of a lot of issues, one of the issues being that you're in this game lol

@xel, i don't think so, vigi is a full vigi if they so chose to become a vigi. more will be clear after n2 i would think, vigi should keep shooting if they're out there imo, because the time is right and the price is as well

[XelNya]

Anyways, time to reread some of roundy's posts.

[XelNya]

Originally Posted by YoshL

@xel, i don't think so, vigi is a full vigi if they so chose to become a vigi. more will be clear after n2 i would think, vigi should keep shooting if they're out there imo, because the time is right and the price is as well

... Thought had not occurred to me actually.

[XelNya]

Still gonna at least skim through their posts just because. No harm in doing so.

[YoshL]

also i did outline in the big post that the odds of the hider hiding behind the wrong person (i did the odds wrong though so rip me)

if there's a vigi, there's 4 people to hide behind that kill him. if mafia and vigi target different people, that's 6 people that are deadly to the hider, out of 11, not 12 because you wouldn't count themself

a.k.a. hider is really not smart to have hidden unless they thought they were going to be targetted

[YoshL]

now that i think about it

seeing as though red blaster wasn't killed in the night by the wolves gives me great confidence that he is a wolf

[Red Blaster]

What are all of the possibilities here?

Sunfan/round hid behind one another in some form.
sunfan/round hid behind a wolf, the other was the kill.
sunfan/round was a target, the other was vigi'd

Don't think there are any other possible outcomes here.

So what are the chances we have a player who'd pick vigi over tracker?
Looking at most of the roster I can't say I think anyone would actually go the vigi route.
It's also worth noting that there's a possibility that the tracker/vigi is dead already.

[YoshL]

there's more outcomes, because hider also dies if they hide behind a targetted person, and also die if they hide behind the vigi.

the vigi over tracker is nice because it's a full vigi, in a game where there's no cardflips. tracker results become very much up in the air and moot.

nice try, if you bothered to read my first post, i outlined reasoning for all of this