TWG CXLII - A Storm of Hard and Boiled [Game Thread]

[Charu]

Appeasing to the crowd is not sunfan's style I feel, or if it is, I honestly don't recall it being.

Fuck you sunfan, you sly fuck, get exposed!

[Charu]

Originally Posted by roundbox

Saving

[Charu]

Originally Posted by DaBackpack

I think Charu just slipped

Excuse me sir, the fuck you going on about?

[DaBackpack]

Originally Posted by Charu

k, partna, I guess I should explain now it's the second day and all, okay then.

*AHEM*







Here, in the beginning of my shenanigans, he was trying to appease me, and fuck you sunfan, I know your shit. Fuck your pocketing nonsense.





Then he tries appeasing to the crowd.

And then finally he shares his "plan", a plan that I wasn't ever going to follow until roundy over here suggested something better.

No it's abundantly clear that you suspected sunfan

but your thought process in describing the "vigi" makes no sense

what did you go "unless..." for?

[storn42]

hold on.. i thinking something....... wouldn't it be best just to use the hider as a free seer? i mean..... with cardflips off.. it might just be a good idea to have the actual hider claim and say who they hid behind. (not who they are hiding behind). the suggested everyone claim who you're going to hide behind just sounds stupidly convoluted. with card flips off we have no way to say "bob died and was the hider. he hid behind either bill or george" having everyone claim gives more info to the woofs than anyone else....

please realize im not saying the hider should claim now, but in the place where they feel they can protect someone by having hid behind them or feels that they need to make some townies locked clear it wouldn't be a bad idea...

[Charu]

Originally Posted by DaBackpack

No it's abundantly clear that you suspected sunfan

but your thought process in describing the "vigi" makes no sense

what did you go "unless..." for?

Well with a potential vigi and a hider and a woof, there could be a max three deaths, right? so I wasn't sure if I was understanding the situation correctly.

Wanna go, bro?

[Charu]

Kind of went in dry, y'know what I'm saying, backpaaaaacaaaaaaak

[DaBackpack]

I hate this game

[YoshL]

Originally Posted by storn42

hold on.. i thinking something....... wouldn't it be best just to use the hider as a free seer? i mean..... with cardflips off.. it might just be a good idea to have the actual hider claim and say who they hid behind. (not who they are hiding behind). the suggested everyone claim who you're going to hide behind just sounds stupidly convoluted. with card flips off we have no way to say "bob died and was the hider. he hid behind either bill or george" having everyone claim gives more info to the woofs than anyone else....

please realize im not saying the hider should claim now, but in the place where they feel they can protect someone by having hid behind them or feels that they need to make some townies locked clear it wouldn't be a bad idea...

because the wolves can just target the hider once they claim, nulling any info we can get from the night.

[Charu]

Originally Posted by DaBackpack

I hate this game

Why are you so upset? You should be happy that we got sunfan the woof fuck out of here.

[DaBackpack]

Originally Posted by Charu

Why are you so upset? You should be happy that we got sunfan the woof fuck out of here.

I hate not being able to say what I want to say

[Charu]

I love you too, would've sufficed.

[Charu]

Give me a peck on the cheek, right 'ere!

Right HERE!!!

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[Tokzic]

Originally Posted by storn42

hold on.. i thinking something....... wouldn't it be best just to use the hider as a free seer? i mean..... with cardflips off.. it might just be a good idea to have the actual hider claim and say who they hid behind. (not who they are hiding behind). the suggested everyone claim who you're going to hide behind just sounds stupidly convoluted. with card flips off we have no way to say "bob died and was the hider. he hid behind either bill or george" having everyone claim gives more info to the woofs than anyone else....

please realize im not saying the hider should claim now, but in the place where they feel they can protect someone by having hid behind them or feels that they need to make some townies locked clear it wouldn't be a bad idea...

I do think you're right in that if the Hider stays alive for 2-3 phases it is highest utility for them to claim and list all the people they didn't die hiding behind for the sake of lock-clearing those players.

But if you want to use the Hider as a Seer, the convoluted bit of the plan is just as important. If they die, we don't get any information - hence, hypothetical hides. They are convoluted, yes, but they are definitely worth doing. The only ones you even have to worry about are from the people who die.

[storn42]

Originally Posted by YoshL

because the wolves can just target the hider once they claim, nulling any info we can get from the night.

again, im not saying the hider needs to claim now... or ever.... just that it would be a better idea that the hider claims at a time they feel is right instead of giving this weird claiming hiding spots thing.....

[Charu]

...Now that I think about it, why the fuck did they go after Roundbox?

Who's the one who suggested a better plan? Was it Roundbox or buns?

Roundbox was opposed to it if I recall, let me go back to the post.

[Charu]

Originally Posted by roundbox

So sunfans plan is garbo since wolves will be able to alter their kill decisions if they know a player is targeting a wolf. If the hider targets the wolf, they die. The wolves will just pick from people who haven't chosen hiding positions, players who have chosen non wolf targets, and wolves can also look for people who have not been hidden behind and make decisions based off of that. Everyone hypoing vs a soft. The decision is pretty clear in my eyes as to which is more beneficial to town.

There it is.

[storn42]

charu, im liking you move every post.

[DaBackpack]

Originally Posted by Charu

...Now that I think about it, why the fuck did they go after Roundbox?

Who's the one who suggested a better plan? Was it Roundbox or buns?

Roundbox was opposed to it if I recall, let me go back to the post.

Charu you really are confusing me right now

[Tokzic]

I feel you, Storn. This is a game where lock-clearing three players (the two safe targets plus the Hider themselves) would absolutely be worth the claim.

I don't think this is a good phase for a Hider claim, but if they survive until next one I think that information would totally be worth claiming for.