What's happening in here?

[YoshL]

Re: What's happening in here?

given the discussions going on, the transition out of flash is going to be one of the biggest changes, and best changes for the engine if it happens.

that being said, newgrounds and armorgames doesn't become a possibility anymore

But yeah, i think community support is not something that's currently lacking, because it's pretty clear that there's still at least a handful of people who still care a lot about FFR and its life.

[Rapta]

Re: What's happening in here?

A transition to HTML5 in my opinion is a huge project which needs to be done. Flash is dying. Has anyone thought of just hiring and paying programmers for this one huge job? Does that sound like a good idea?
I know money isn't really here right now for the site but it could be soon depending on how hi19's business plan discussion goes in that Skype chat.

[_Zenith_]

Re: What's happening in here?

It was mentioned earlier back this year that the R^3 Engine was going open-sourced? Did this happen?

[Rapta]

Re: What's happening in here?

It was mentioned earlier back this year that the R^3 Engine was going open-sourced? Did this happen?

Yes. There is a link to the open source that I downloaded and others surely did too. I don't remember which thread though.

[noname219]

Re: What's happening in here?

Yes. There is a link to the open source that I downloaded and others surely did too. I don't remember which thread though.

It's this thread.

[Buta-san]

Re: What's happening in here?

and gives users brain-dead options for playing charts for whatever shitty anime op they want to

not just anime op's but they always have new maps for newly released songs in general which caters to both newcomers and veterans.

[Crazyjayde]

Re: What's happening in here?

FYI that hi19, Velocity, Zag a few others and myself are going to have a conversation this afternoon over (most likely) skype. I am looking forward to it.

Glad to hear! I am also eager to hear from it. The discussion yesterday felt very healthy and fruitful for the sake of the site and I wish these will resume in some form or another. However, there was an apparent growing lack of direction towards solving issues I tried to address through my last intervention (i.e. questions of leadership roles, possible community contributions) as I felt that Synth's aptitude to look at the bigger picture would be necessary to kickstart this urgent need of task managing. Thankfully, this meeting should be beneficial to that concern and I think part of the groupthink should also take the opportunity to think on it.

But yeah, i think community support is not something that's currently lacking, because it's pretty clear that there's still at least a handful of people who still care a lot about FFR and its life.

There's a lot more than a handful and that's why it's important for it to have better significance to FFR's progress. Community involvement/communication is crucial to garner interest.

[YoshL]

Re: What's happening in here?

like it was discussed in the queue/batch thread, with what buta just said, V2s of songs become much more interesting, and could be possibly integrated into a new engine as different difficulties of songs.

A lot rides on the discussion that Synth is going to be having.

There may even be a potential for lost permissions from some artists if monetary changes in FFR's running begin to come to light, however, I guess, it's just a weighing of pros and cons. Stuff is happening right now at least

[Synthlight]

Re: What's happening in here?

A transition to HTML5 in my opinion is a huge project which needs to be done. Flash is dying. Has anyone thought of just hiring and paying programmers for this one huge job? Does that sound like a good idea?
I know money isn't really here right now for the site but it could be soon depending on how hi19's business plan discussion goes in that Skype chat.

I might as well let you guys know there was a big discussion about this very thing today. I know someone out of Germany that already has a timing engine built in HTML5/Javascript. I am in the process of getting another dev meeting setup so that we can work towards a very early proof of concept. We would of course want to involve everyone as it moves forward.

[Charu]

Re: What's happening in here?

Oooh, so FFR is gonna get rid of the Flash aspect of it, eh?

Sounds like we need to make another name, as posters have joked before.

Of course I think keeping the name Flash Flash Revolution would be cool too. Don't know how, maybe with some clever reasoning, heh.

[One Winged Angel]

Re: What's happening in here?

Of course I think keeping the name Flash Flash Revolution would be cool too. Don't know how, maybe with some clever reasoning, heh.

Incoming illuminati meme reasoning posts

For real though, work on an HTML5 engine sounds fantastic

[Synthlight]

Re: What's happening in here?

Oooh, so FFR is gonna get rid of the Flash aspect of it, eh?.

I don't think we will ever remove the Flash aspect. At the very least we are looking at legacy and nostalgic reasons down the road. The current flash version is continuing on as it has for years. The HTML5/Javascript will need to start out as a proof of concept and be built up. I have additional meetings being scheduled with different management groups here at FFR so that we can help make progress in parallel. Does everyone want me to stay transparent with these plans or would you rather we hold back until we have something significant?


Cheers,

Synthlight

[Rapta]

Re: What's happening in here?

Sounds like we need to make another name, as posters have joked before.

HH5 Revolution short for HTMLHTML5 Revolution

lel

Does everyone want me to stay transparent with these plans or would you rather we hold back until we have something significant?

I would like transparency.

[_Zenith_]

Re: What's happening in here?

I don't think we will ever remove the Flash aspect. At the very least we are looking at legacy and nostalgic reasons down the road. The current flash version is continuing on as it has for years. The HTML5/Javascript will need to start out as a proof of concept and be built up. I have additional meetings being scheduled with different management groups here at FFR so that we can help make progress in parallel. Does everyone want me to stay transparent with these plans or would you rather we hold back until we have something significant?


Cheers,

Synthlight

I think touching up on worthy points during those plans would be satisfactory with everyone; just so we know that effort and progress is being made and I would assume those who would like to help would be more motivated to take the initiative on certain things.

[dAnceguy117]

Re: What's happening in here?

I might as well let you guys know there was a big discussion about this very thing today. I know someone out of Germany that already has a timing engine built in HTML5/Javascript. I am in the process of getting another dev meeting setup so that we can work towards a very early proof of concept. We would of course want to involve everyone as it moves forward.

Out of curiosity: what would be the ultimate goal of this project?

I would imagine that an HTML5/Javascript/what-have-you engine could be more stable for players; the current engines have proven to inhibit some players' ability to compete at a high level, seemingly due to certain hardware and operating systems not playing nice with Flash. Given your statement about the 99/1 issue of this site's recent focus, though, I would guess that high-level play isn't the primary concern here.

From what I understand, HTML5 is vastly more compatible with mobile web browsers than Flash. Is that a motivating factor? If the intent is to turn FFR into a viable game for phones and tablets, wouldn't a mobile app make more sense? Not to mention, I think most would agree that the input style of this game isn't particularly suited to touch screens.

Not sure if there's much purpose to my speculation, but it could be food for thought, I guess. Haha.

What aspects or effects of building an HTML5 engine do you (and others in the site's leadership) believe will help to improve the site and its community?