Homosexual Marriage

[Kamunt]

Originally Posted by WeissPraline

The law that says Gays can't marry and can't be in the army need to be GONE.

It's not that sexual minorities can't be in the military...it's just that they sacrifice their 1st Amendment right to speak freely about themselves upon enlisting.

Don't tell me 'Being gay is a choice'. Maybe being Bisexual, but not being gay. Why would someone CHOOSE to be gay with all the crap they go through? One of my friends at school got beat up because he was gay. Why would he choose to be gay if he gets made fun of all the time, AND gets beat up?

Because antiestablishment is cool. You know, "**** THE SYSTEM," and everything. Be emo/gothic/skateboarder/punk-rock/Blackalicious and stupid just because you can be.

Originally Posted by ~Brooke~

I personally tihnk this is discussting. =?

Oh relly. How coem. =?

Originally Posted by sgkoneko

Haven't you heard of pride? Isn't that what the army is supposed to have for their country? Shouldn't the same be allowed for the people IN the army? Yes they are allowed in, but that is on the basis that the army is assuming everyone is straight unless proven otherwise. They aren't allowing gays in. They are allowing what they assume are straight people in.

A case of "Innocent until proven guilty" taken the wrong way, it is...now it's "Straight until proven gay." What kind of trash is that. If homosexuals want to die for our country, then by Karl Rove, they should be allowed to die for our country. I agree that it's inefficient and a waste of military time enforcing this "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" law. If anything, there has to be FAR more cases per year of men "interfering with military duties" with women than there is of men and men or women and women--that's just basic probability. Less than 10% of the military is non-heterosexual, so obviously, there HAS to be more heterosexual "distractions" than there are homosexual "distractions". That means 90+% of military personnel are straight--why not make it illegal for them to tell the opposite gender/sex that they themselves are straight? "Look out, women, I'm a guy and I like women! CONTROVERSY." Just make everyone stay ambiguous (or make the default sexuality asexuality, heh) and there'll be even fewer interferences. Makes sense, right? By the military's logic?

They should be allowed to express themselves and be who they are. The military is shorthanded anyways, most people don't want to join, and they are being idiots and excluding a group of people that actually WANTS to join based on their sexuality. It's wrong and the law should be repealed.

Amen, Brother. I-I mean....Awoman.

Originally Posted by sgkoneko

They can't be in the military unless they hide themselves and basically pretend to be someone they aren't. I said gays aren't allowed, presumed straight men and women are. There is a difference. If they hide themselves they can join, but that's not being allowed in, that's not acceptance, thus they aren't really allowed to join.

It's almost like lying about your credentials in order to get the position you want, except here there's probably a bit less of greed involved. It's bad enough not being able to be myself, my true self, in school (not that I'm gay). If I want to potentially forfeit my life for the good of my nation, I still have to lie about myself to others? Are you serious?! It's ridiculous.

Sorry if I don't base most of my arguments off of facts and links to articles of import; I'm more of a logos debater than a knowledge debater.* Logic is one of my specialties, though plenty of knowledge is there, as well. I'm just exhausted from too much staying up into the wee hours of the morning attempting to finish school projects.

Originally Posted by Kilroy_x

Sorry to say, nothing there is particularly conclusive or enlightening.

Why not? That seems like a very interesting subsite to me. I will definitely check it out more when I have time later.


* +1 if you know what logos is.