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  • jak5255
    FFR Player
    • Oct 2005
    • 15

    #1

    SMHOF - Stepmania Hall of Fame

    Hi guys, most of you might not know me, Emphy (My most commonly used nick) (Unless your Norwegian\Swedish or just one of the lucky few )
    Nonetheless, I hope you can lend me your ears for a minute or two.
    This post is also generalized (mostly), since it's going up on all mayor websites about stepmania. (Or which have stepmania as a sub-category atleast.)


    We from Norway, mainly Katt (One of the admins from Norways largest SM\rythm game forum), is creating a database\ranking page for SM scores, much like the late Blue Planet.

    Alot of the coding stuff is already done, we're still working on the design and adding songs\song packs.
    This is still an early beta though, there's a bunch of stuff to be done\updated still.


    Features
    -No total ranking, ranking for each individual song only.
    -Okay, I lied, total ranking for quads, just to see who has the most. (Just an idea, and this has nothing with a an actual ranking to do, it's a separate list to see who has the most quads)
    -You will be able to browse\sort by pack\artist\stepartist
    -When uploading a screen you will be able to write something about the score, much like the info box on youtube. (Put something like a link to a video for proof etc. or just write something about how bad the score is.)
    -Other people will be able to comment on your scores.
    -Admins\mods will have to confirm scores, to filter out BS scores.
    -Users will have their own profile, so other people can see recently posted scores of that user.
    -You can choose to only see scores from a specific country, e.g. if you're only interested in scores from your own country.
    -A user can only have one posted score for each individual song, but can update the score at any given time.
    -Passwords are encrypted ofc, so you won't have to worry about other people finding out.
    -All scores will be ranked by Dance Points (Migs)



    Now we want your opinions.
    -What do you feel about using migs?
    Apparently some people feel that the punishment for a miss is too drastic. (-8)
    We from Norway have fairly good experiences with migs, we've been using it in several competitions, and quite possibly the largest in-house competitions ever. (Dunno about those swedes and their Dreamhack thingy)
    -What about validation? vid? smac? trust?
    -Is there any other features that you think we've missed which would be cool to have?
    -Anything you feel we should change?


    And one more thing, we need people to be admins, people which are capable of distinguishing a BS score from a genuine "holy ****, that's some **** you've got there" score.


    And here's some screens, remember, this is still just an early beta.




    So, suggestions\opinions, come with them.
    Last edited by jak5255; 09-26-2009, 12:50 PM.
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  • Mollocephalus
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    • Jul 2009
    • 2608

    #2
    Re: SMHOF - Stepmania Hall of Fame

    are you the same as emph^

    because if you are i have your msn contact

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    • [TeRa]
      FFR Player
      • May 2007
      • 9922

      #3
      Re: SMHOF - Stepmania Hall of Fame

      I've always wanted a leaderboard for SM scores, it's pretty much the only reasons I've kept up with FFR and haven't just gone straight SM.
      I'm all for using MIGS. While I don't 100% agree with the system, it's far far better than the DP system SM uses, so I guess it'll do.
      I'm willing to help out with moderating the scoreboard.
      Last edited by [TeRa]; 09-26-2009, 08:28 AM.

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      • Mollocephalus
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        • Jul 2009
        • 2608

        #4
        Re: SMHOF - Stepmania Hall of Fame

        suggestion: sort songs by step authors instead of packs. you can eventually add a feature that makes you select how the files are sorted.

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        • stargroup100
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          • Jul 2006
          • 2051

          #5
          Re: SMHOF - Stepmania Hall of Fame

          Originally posted by Mollocephalus
          suggestion: sort songs by step authors instead of packs. you can eventually add a feature that makes you select how the files are sorted.
          yes

          also if you wanna redo the scoring system you better put a LOT of thought, reasoning, and calculations into it. if we are going to use a new system we better NOT ever need to tweak it ever again
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          • Staiain
            Can't handle my ÆØÅ
            • Aug 2009
            • 4545

            #6
            Re: SMHOF - Stepmania Hall of Fame

            I don't want the system to be changed, migs is the best common system we have.






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            • jak5255
              FFR Player
              • Oct 2005
              • 15

              #7
              Re: SMHOF - Stepmania Hall of Fame

              Originally posted by Mollocephalus
              are you the same as emph^

              because if you are i have your msn contact
              I am indeed
              Feel free to message me :P

              Originally posted by [TeRa]
              I've always wanted a leaderboard for SM scores, it's pretty much the only reasons I've kept up with FFR and haven't just gone straight SM.
              I'm all for using MIGS. While I don't 100% agree with the system, it's far far better than the DP system SM uses, so I guess it'll do.
              I'm willing to help out with moderating the scoreboard.
              Yeah, SM's DP system is pretty bad.
              And great, I've taken note


              Originally posted by Mollocephalus
              suggestion: sort songs by step authors instead of packs. you can eventually add a feature that makes you select how the files are sorted.
              You will be able to browse by step author.
              Or did you mean that it's a flaw to start out with browsing by pack in some sort of way?

              Originally posted by stargroup100
              also if you wanna redo the scoring system you better put a LOT of thought, reasoning, and calculations into it. if we are going to use a new system we better NOT ever need to tweak it ever again
              Yeah, having to change it later would suck.
              Last edited by jak5255; 09-26-2009, 09:55 AM.
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              • Mollocephalus
                Custom User Title
                • Jul 2009
                • 2608

                #8
                Re: SMHOF - Stepmania Hall of Fame

                no it's okay if the default is pack browsing as long as you can switch to author browsing.

                wait does that mean youre not gonna addin single releases?

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                • jak5255
                  FFR Player
                  • Oct 2005
                  • 15

                  #9
                  Re: SMHOF - Stepmania Hall of Fame

                  Originally posted by Mollocephalus
                  no it's okay if the default is pack browsing as long as you can switch to author browsing.

                  wait does that mean youre not gonna addin single releases?
                  Yeah.

                  Mainly, yes.
                  Though I'm sure exceptions could be made, but adding every single release would be too much. :P
                  And "originals" packs will be added, like kil, zagh, blurk etc. so all their single releases will go under those packs.

                  We will probably have something like "singles" which contains those truly exceptional files which isn't in any packs.
                  Last edited by jak5255; 09-26-2009, 10:04 AM.
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                  • Master Chief 1594
                    FFR Veteran
                    • Sep 2009
                    • 178

                    #10
                    Re: SMHOF - Stepmania Hall of Fame

                    Can you make it so that the scores are done on SMO only? That way, the scores can be legit


                    Or have them use SMAC
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                    • jak5255
                      FFR Player
                      • Oct 2005
                      • 15

                      #11
                      Re: SMHOF - Stepmania Hall of Fame

                      Originally posted by Master Chief 1594
                      Can you make it so that the scores are done on SMO only? That way, the scores can be legit


                      Or have them use SMAC
                      SMO only? no

                      We're thinking about smac or vid with judge\ini and stuff.
                      And reasonable scores from people which have earned their trust, though I personally think everyone should use smac, just for equality.
                      But we want everyone's input on this.
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                      • MinaciousGrace
                        FFR Player
                        • Dec 2007
                        • 4278

                        #12
                        Re: SMHOF - Stepmania Hall of Fame

                        huhmmm

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                        • Staiain
                          Can't handle my ÆØÅ
                          • Aug 2009
                          • 4545

                          #13
                          Re: SMHOF - Stepmania Hall of Fame

                          SMAC is proven worthless, so it's no use really.






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                          • Bluearrowll
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                            • Nov 2007
                            • 7376

                            #14
                            Re: SMHOF - Stepmania Hall of Fame

                            I'm all for something like this
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                            • GG_Guru
                              Let em' do what they want
                              • Mar 2006
                              • 3219

                              #15
                              Re: SMHOF - Stepmania Hall of Fame

                              Cool I can dig this.

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