Flight of the Bumblebee [11 or 12]

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  • Hakulyte
    the Haku
    • Jul 2005
    • 4610

    #1

    Flight of the Bumblebee [11 or 12]

    Reasons:

    - Background
    - Blue notes
    - High amount of long trills + transitions
    - Very unfriendly to spread players
    - One very long one hand trill at moderate speed
    - Awkward Running man after getting stamina drained from trills
    - Decent amount of alts/hacked scores boosting top 200 and making ranks less relevant
    - File is extremely over played since 2003 and only 54 AAAs

    I can't really add much without being subjective so, I'll stop here.
  • V-Ormix
    Banned
    • Aug 2008
    • 4677

    #2
    Re: Flight of the Bumblebee [11 or 12]

    11 and always will be an 11

    Edit: the long one hand trill sucks, but honestly if you index it or use one of the tricks I did its just no were near a 12 even then. the file doesn't even break 900 arrows lmao

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    • rushyrulz
      Digital Dancing!
      FFR Simfile Author
      FFR Music Producer
      • Feb 2006
      • 12985

      #3
      Re: Flight of the Bumblebee [11 or 12]

      11 cuz no speed, consistencymanias all that's required.


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      • dragonmegaXX
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        FFR Simfile Author
        • Jul 2008
        • 3661

        #4
        Re: Flight of the Bumblebee [11 or 12]

        It's not very hard at all, Constant 16ths the entire time.

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        • Mau5
          FFR Player
          • Nov 2011
          • 790

          #5
          Re: Flight of the Bumblebee [11 or 12]

          I say 11, FFR just can't trill
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          • bballa48
            FFR Veteran
            • Jan 2007
            • 1496

            #6
            Re: Flight of the Bumblebee [11 or 12]

            Originally posted by dragonmegaXX
            It's not very hard at all, Constant 16ths the entire time.
            So you have a SDG on Holy Orders but over 80 goods on FOTBB, yet is isn't that hard? Edit: That came out harsh, not trying to be a jerk, but just saying :) )

            I don't know, I feel like all of you are just spewing stuff without really thinking about that file. Yeah it is just trills all over, but they are fast, stamina draining, and there is a stupid background.

            Here's a question I like to ask myself before bumping a song. "Will this being bumped up to a 12 lead to people thinking 'Oh, here's my chance at my first 12 AAA/SDG etc.?'" Please show me someone who would answer yes to that question.

            I have no problem at all with this being a low 12, yet I realize it won't be changed since it has always been an 11. So in that sense, who cares.


            Edit: Plays FOTBB, AAAs first try after rant about how it could be a 12. Face palm.
            Last edited by bballa48; 05-3-2012, 04:01 PM.
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            • dragonmegaXX
              ITG playing fur
              FFR Simfile Author
              • Jul 2008
              • 3661

              #7
              Re: Flight of the Bumblebee [11 or 12]

              Originally posted by bballa48
              So you have a SDG on Holy Orders but over 80 goods on FOTBB, yet is isn't that hard?

              I don't know, I feel like all of you are just spewing stuff without really thinking about that file. Yeah it is just trills all over, but they are fast, stamina draining, and there is a stupid background.

              Here's a question I like to ask myself before bumping a song. "Will this being bumped up to a 12 lead to people thinking 'Oh, here's my chance at my first 12 AAA/SDG etc.?'" Please show me someone who would answer yes to that question.

              I have no problem at all with this being a low 12, yet I realize it won't be changed since it has always been an 11. So in that sense, who cares.
              Thats because I love playing holy orders, and have practiced it a bunch, and I never play FOTBB more than once in a row because I overall hate it

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              • ichliebekase
                FFR Simfile Author
                FFR Simfile Author
                • May 2006
                • 3213

                #8
                Re: Flight of the Bumblebee [11 or 12]

                Given the reasons stated in the OP, it says 12, especially with the fact that it only has 54 AAAs in 9 years. I could see it as a 12, but I also see why it's an 11. It's easy for index players, but difficult for spread players. Not much else to it other than what was already said.
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                • EzExZeRo7497
                  • Dec 2010
                  • 6858

                  #9
                  Re: Flight of the Bumblebee [11 or 12]

                  I can see it both ways really, the density isn't high enough to be 12 but the patterns, BG and blue note syndrome... Can't decide. High 11 at least.

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                  • xXAll-ProXx
                    FFR Veteran
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 2040

                    #10
                    Re: Flight of the Bumblebee [11 or 12]

                    Definitely one of the hardest FMO`s. I have to say FN, Kestarko M, and Reality are far easier than FoTBB.

                    I would agree with it being a 12.
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                    • Herogashix
                      D7 Dating Sim Player
                      FFR Music Producer
                      • Apr 2009
                      • 2183

                      #11
                      Re: Flight of the Bumblebee [11 or 12]

                      11 and always will be 11. I don't even see how 12 is thinkable.

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                      • Riotpolice
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                        • Nov 2010
                        • 1921

                        #12
                        Re: Flight of the Bumblebee [11 or 12]

                        11. Pretty much what everyone else is saying. The background isn't as bad as Revolutionary Etude, which makes it easier to see the arrows. Even so, its a pretty damn hard FGO at that.
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                        • Mau5
                          FFR Player
                          • Nov 2011
                          • 790

                          #13
                          Re: Flight of the Bumblebee [11 or 12]

                          Disagree on FN, Kestarko, and Reality being harder

                          If you're saying it's difficult because of the background, P4U V2 might as well be a guru as well.

                          Blue Note syndrome isn't bad, the whole song is just 16th note streams.

                          Basically just comes down to whether or not you are good at trill patterns and very basic staircase patterns

                          Whereas FN, Kestarko, and Reality, you got bursts, tedious jumpgluts, pretty much everything, as well as being consistent in variety
                          And those are considered some of the easiest 12s
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                          • icontrolyourworld
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                            • Oct 2007
                            • 4193

                            #14
                            Re: Flight of the Bumblebee [11 or 12]

                            Originally posted by Mau5
                            If you're saying it's difficult because of the background, P4U V2 might as well be a guru as well.
                            I actually wouldn't mind seeing both these files as 12's haha

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                            • benguino
                              Kawaii Desu Ne?
                              • Dec 2007
                              • 4186

                              #15
                              Re: Flight of the Bumblebee [11 or 12]

                              Think about it this way. It's been out for over 9 years and it's on the Most Popular Levels on the daily stats page almost every ****ing day yet it still only has 54 AAA's. The file is simple, but the amount of raw speed needed, stamina, and trilling ability needed is ridiculous if one even wants to remotely decent on the file. And top if off with the terrible background that makes the notes hard to see trololol. I'll vote 12, but I wouldn't be upset if this is left as a high 11.
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