Flight of the Bumblebee [11 or 12]

[Hakulyte]

Re: Flight of the Bumblebee [11 or 12]

SKG_Scintill:

K8107: 0-0-0-0
FOTBB: 81-21-0-60

Come again. Seriously, it's a song you just need to play because stuff we say in theory is a ton more irrelevant than in practice.


v-- Not sure if trolling or trolling.

[SKG_Scintill]

Re: Flight of the Bumblebee [11 or 12]

I suck at VCs, I AAA'd K8107 when it was still a FMO. I haven't AAA'd FotBB, hence it's a 10.

[hi19hi19]

Re: Flight of the Bumblebee [11 or 12]

Scintill: 1
FFR: 0

Stay tuned for more~

[qqwref]

Re: Flight of the Bumblebee [11 or 12]

Sorry, Scintill, I thought you were making an actual argument. Carry on~

I still think, in general, that player statistics are really important when deciding difficulty. Maybe not as important as they are in TS (where difficulty is pmuch entirely determined by player scores, afaik) but it should certainly matter a lot more than some random top player's opinions on how hard patterns are. Whether we are using a 1-13 difficulty system or a 1-20 (or 1-50 or 1-100 or open-ended) we really need to be setting benchmark files and then comparing statistics, in a way that will not be affected by how long songs have been out or how hard they are to unlock. If the whole community statistically finds file A significantly harder than file B, file A is harder, no matter what *any* individual player says.

[jimerax]

Re: Flight of the Bumblebee [11 or 12]

hey, this is not a place to post irrelevant materials.

[popsicle_3000]

Re: Flight of the Bumblebee [11 or 12]

We ARE making a new difficulty scale if you haven't noticed (1-20). It'll be released to the public soon...these will be massive changes.

SSSG HAS already been changed to a 7, thanks to this difficulty forum. Regardless, we'll see how it all turns out with the upcoming new difficulty scale.

how soon? and are these discussions relevant if the scale is changing?

[8:05:08 PM] wc: lets make this the default background to every file on ffr http://www.presentcat.com/

wow

Trills are basically as fast K8107's. FotBB tops NPS at 14, K8107 tops NPS at 16. It's a 10.

I have proof to be reasonably intelligent, ur dum n stuff. It's a 10

LOL

my 2cents:
-fun reading this thread :)
-I love how DP comes up all the time
-FOTBB should be an 11. I'm more of a traditionalist, and it's been an 11 forever (I was against revo being bumped too, but no matter). I recon BNS files stay the way they are.
-I realize that the above isn't an argument to its difficulty. and like people have mentioned before, I'm not quite good enough to accurately judge the fine line between FMO & FGOs... So, EHHS and FOTBB i'd score similarly on (non-mash), rolls i can do np, one-handed trill not, file not that dense. Seems like a normal top FMO for me.
-P4U i was horrible until i swapped skins, played the non-background version (thanks hakulyte :)) and i almost got a sub 20 FC on it. FOTBB is one step up from that. stays an 11.