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Re: Konami sues over Rock Band
Afro covered basically what I was going to say... it has nothing to do with DDR. It has to do with DrumMania and GuitarFreaks.RIPComment
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Re: Konami sues over Rock Band
Does Konami seriously have a patent monopoly on all that stuff? If that is true, then it's quite sad
I'm not familiar with the history of their legal battles, but has Konami ever explicitly lost on one of their filed claims pertaining to patent defense?
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Re: Konami sues over Rock Band
Well, it happened. YouTubeYouTube is facing a $1 billion+ lawsuit from Viacom today. It was known that YouTube would eventually face at least one major lawsuit, and Viacom - which had already pulled 100,000 clips from the site, was perhaps the most likely to take a distaste to the company.
Viacom is accusing YouTube of “massive intentional copyright infringement”, saying that 160,000 unauthorized Viacom clips have been uploaded onto YouTube, totaling more than 1.5 billion views. In truth, the “more than $1 billion” figure sounds a little low: typically these companies seek the maximum sum of $150,000 per infringement. This was the case with Bolt.com, which decided to settle for $10 million rather than endure a lengthy legal battle against Universal.
Viacom, owner of MTV and Nickelodeon, put out a release regarding the YouTube case today, with the following statement:
There is no question that YouTube and Google are continuing to take the fruit of our efforts without permission and destroying enormous value in the process. This is value that rightfully belongs to the writers, directors and talent who create it and companies like Viacom that have invested to make possible this innovation and creativity.
So this is the ultimate showdown: a test whether you can “pull a YouTube” and get away with it. YouTube, frankly, has moved the video market forward faster than any other player, and that high risk game is ultimately good for users. If it had been left to Viacom and its ilk to move forward with Internet TV, we’d still be watching everything in Windows Media or Realplayer format, with no progress made over the past two years. These companies didn’t innovate, and suddenly found themselves contending with a young upstart that was driving more viewers to their content than they ever could. Fearing loss of control, particularly of the distribution channel, suing seemed like the best option for a company that’s anti-innovation. That said, YouTube was also so incredibly slow to roll out its copy protection, and only delivered a deal with AudibleMagic when we expected an in-house solution, that it gave these lawsuits the opportunity to bubble up.
More updates later.
Its all a game to these companies.
Viacom is a **** and a half anyway. Their marketing techniques are fowl and they would try to sell herpes to the crowd if it would make them a quick buck or two.
I mean, f**k.. They purposely popularisedgangsta rap with the sole intent on getting kids from the ghettos to look up on that sort of lifestyle so they would be more inclined to buy their merchandise.
Im sure Viacom conveniently forgot about the "bustin a cap in yo ass" part to that lifestyle...
...but this is why I couldnt give a flying **** in the first place.Comment
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Re: Konami sues over Rock Band
It's a bit unfair for Konami to just try to shoot something down that was really innovative--it's something new that Konami didn't even think of. Now that someone beat them to the punch, they want to take advantage of it. Typical of Konami nowadays.
Pretty soon, someone other than Konami will make a game that is similar, yet better than Yu-Gi-Oh, and Konami will just go sue-happy on them too.
EDIT: A bit laggy there--I totally agree with Sir Thomas over there, the companies really don't care whether a game has the quality to appeal to the crowd, it's all about their profit.Last edited by TC_Halogen; 07-11-2008, 01:39 PM.Comment
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So is Konami becoming the Metallica of the videogame world?
(for the record I do like Metallica)CLICK \/ \/ \/ \/ \/ \/ \/ \/ \/
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Basically... because they DID come up with the original ideas for these games and did create the original hardware for these. You'll notice that all of their major lawsuits have revolved around the hardware, not the games themselves.... MUCH easier to prove the hardware patents (especially in the Roxor case, when they were literally using DDR machines). AFAIK, they've never lost one of their lawsuits.
But in a world of patents and intellectual property, if it not unfair of MTV to have not given royalties to Konami from the start, as they hold the patents on these types of things? It would have saved them bad press and likely money too... this will be a lengthy and costly legal battle. Yes, it sucks that Konami is always the bad guy... and in a lot of ways they are... but in the legal sense, they have the right to do it.RIPComment
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But, think of it this way. Saying that any music and rythm game is like DDR is like saying every RPG is like Zelda.
By that i mean you run around, fight stuff, collect stuf and blah blah. Yet theres no way Nintendo could sue Sony for GTA, although it is the same concept, just wiht defferent weapons, essentialy.
So if we go by what Konami says then then not only is GTA the same exact thing as The Legend of Zelda, the mic in Rock Band is the same as DDR because you have to hit things in time with music, correct?
Edit: This is FallenXxRaven. I forgot to log out of my friend's account.Last edited by KindBudddddd; 07-11-2008, 03:22 PM.Comment
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Wow.
You're all incredibly naive.
Please take at least one law course in your life. It will do you much good.
By the way OH WHY AREN'T THEY GOING AFTER ACTIVISION
See the bottom of that page? 'Covered by one or more of the following patents...'. Oh, looks like Activision knows the law and follows it. Those are Konami's patents down there. Why is it just Rock Band? Because Harmonix doesn't know the law and when they broke with Activision, they lost their usage rights to the patent and had to re-file for its use. They didn't. They got sued. That's all it is.Last edited by Squeek; 07-11-2008, 03:23 PM.Comment
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This is Harmonix not jumping through the correct legal hoops, and Konami handing them their ass because of it.
ITG vs. DDR was a whole nother case entirely... I knew the person who was head of the firm that investigated whether or not consumers could tell the difference between ITG machines and DDR machines. The process for that case was a lot more complex because there were legitimate points of comparison between the products.
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This is an example of companies trying to sue people for no reason to get more money. Konami has their head up their ass for this one. Seriously, I doubt Harmonix, Viacom, and MTV Game had NO intention of copying patents.Comment
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Your guess is a good as mine.
First you have to learn how to read this gibberish, then you can start trying to make a case either way.
Good luck~
From the looks of it, Harmonix only patented the guitar itself, while Konami patented the concept of having a music game wherein you match symbols to buttons on a controller in time with the music.
It's pretty clear-cut to me who wins here.Last edited by Squeek; 07-11-2008, 04:23 PM.Comment
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Konami is just crap. They can't take the heat, so they have to sue to make their penises feel bigger. They know that they stand no chance against these companies when it comes to making music games, because they have retards working the machines. Once they know they are going to have their crap games stomped on, they have to sue to make sure they stay on top so people will be forced to buy crap games since everything else that's good has been terminated.
If you're the only company on the market, then you have absolutely no competition.Comment
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