Re: TWG XC: Deja Vu
i still think mak was a wolf ;~;
i still think mak was a wolf ;~;
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hold your horses here. so I've played over twenty games and you, who have only played three games I believe, think I need to be banned? surely you are extremely confused ...
I am saying that if you threaten to grill people, do it! you said you were suspicious of afro, which is perfectly normal. as you said, speculation. but then you mentioned you would grill him... just do it, like he did to me
and if you read what afro said there's nothing to show that i'm a wolf or else I'd be dead by now... his post ended up being some weird personal attack on me that everyone seems to have ignored or have no opinion onComment
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Just saying you need to think about what you type before you type it, and need to get a better grasp on the game at hand. Your seniority over me doesn't mean superiority. Every decision I've witnessed you make I considered poor. You're lucky you haven't been lynched sooner, but I suppose being inactive until times like this suits you.
You were only active during times I was sure we were lynching a wolf. If that isn't worthy of my speculation, along with your asinine contemplations, I don't know what is.Originally posted by ~jroddOriginally posted by ~Tao of DossarComment
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I just want to lynch everyone. Is there anyway that can be arranged?Originally posted by j-rodd123Comment
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clarinetOriginally posted by ~jroddOriginally posted by ~Tao of DossarComment
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serious time
go4itCode:fikshonjunkshon 7:39 pm blegh fikshonjunkshon 7:40 pm MAAKIILAAAAAAAAAAZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ syhto wouldn't worry about it it's not like my credibility didn't take a dive I had a long conversation with sc thinking he was u84 ahahahahahaha fikshonjunkshon 7:41 pm I thought it was great he's like fic, uhm I didn't do any of that then it hit me so all my secrets gooonneee but it made me curious why on earth does he care about the seer having come out to me of all people. he asked me and he has no business asking that maybe I should just kill him too really, I think this is how arfo feels I don't like it ;_; maybe we were right about makilaz and emerald and sc is one of the two wolves left fikshonjunkshon 7:43 pm and he took initiative that isn't rare MAYBE brb, long post about it except not we're pretty terrible this game has been craaaappp I didn't vote for makilaz and I didn't vote for emerald I protected myself from affiliation that's pretty good imo I can't work alone though, anyway syhto,sc, a2p, etc are on that not-seered green list a2p is a very, very ambiguous player. he coiuld go either way at this point fikshonjunkshon 7:49 pm syhto's relationship to makilaz separate them so if makilaz wans't a wolf then syhto could be but if syhto is makilaz wasn't same with arfo but I'm 100% on arfo I refuse to believe he's red tupac seems reasonably engaged and sc asked me about the seer coming to me which bothers me on two levels one he shouldn't be asking two, why would he ask? affiliation to u84 established if that affiliation proves truwe then u84 gains suspicion but I don't want to tread that road it's too convoluted they wouldn't do it so, why why why would he careOriginally posted by j-rodd123Comment
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I urge sc to post our conversation.Originally posted by j-rodd123Comment
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I asked because of my other post about the seer possibly revealing themselves to you/jwc in addition to u84...Comment
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here
Code:Sunday, November 08, 2009 fikshonjunkshon (11:28:16 PM): ok fikshonjunkshon (11:28:20 PM): so I'm on a pc now fikshonjunkshon (11:28:32 PM): the only thing that made me even consider coming back was your attitude fikshonjunkshon (11:28:46 PM): you seemed legitimately pissed off and that shows me you give a ****. fikshonjunkshon (11:29:08 PM): I'm going to jack in the box now but I'll be back in 5 - 10 minutes fikshonjunkshon (11:29:21 PM): I can give you any information you need from me fikshonjunkshon (11:29:23 PM): if you want it. fikshonjunkshon (11:29:30 PM): but that's as far as our relationship goes fikshonjunkshon (11:29:37 PM): because I can't do anything, not in my position fikshonjunkshon (11:30:30 PM): if not you can go back to disliking my attitude, not understanding where I'm coming from and possibly lynching the wrong person fikshonjunkshon (11:30:41 PM): because as far as I'm concerned, I'm human and I know what I'm talking about. fikshonjunkshon (11:30:56 PM): that is all. I'll be back in 10 minutes if you're interested. sam97379 (11:33:09 PM): mh sam97379 (11:33:13 PM): was in the bathroom fikshonjunkshon (11:41:57 PM): anyway yeah fikshonjunkshon (11:43:33 PM): only if you're interested sam97379 (11:43:48 PM): sure fikshonjunkshon (11:43:57 PM): what do you want to know sam97379 (11:45:18 PM): do you know who the seer is? fikshonjunkshon (11:45:25 PM): no sam97379 (11:46:14 PM): why didn't you vote for maki that day sam97379 (11:46:21 PM): if you thought he was a wolf fikshonjunkshon (11:46:51 PM): I never thought he was a wolf 100%. I had a social experiment going and it kind of backfired on me fikshonjunkshon (11:47:01 PM): what surprised me the most was that fikshonjunkshon (11:47:24 PM): nobody ever noted how ridiculously exagerated my accusations were fikshonjunkshon (11:47:28 PM): if not my determination fikshonjunkshon (11:47:30 PM): it was too random fikshonjunkshon (11:47:35 PM): people called me out on it fikshonjunkshon (11:47:38 PM): but still took it seriously. fikshonjunkshon (11:47:49 PM): I managed to convince arfo and syhto to vote for makilaz fikshonjunkshon (11:48:00 PM): I did this to see who would be willing to do it fikshonjunkshon (11:48:10 PM): if any of them showed any immediate resentment to the idea fikshonjunkshon (11:48:13 PM): a connection would be made fikshonjunkshon (11:48:21 PM): because why not makilaz fikshonjunkshon (11:48:33 PM): if you're a wolf with makilaz the answer is simple fikshonjunkshon (11:48:44 PM): and you wouldn't want to openly express that kind of strong opinion fikshonjunkshon (11:48:48 PM): without consulting your team first fikshonjunkshon (11:48:54 PM): it sets everything off balance fikshonjunkshon (11:48:56 PM): thus fikshonjunkshon (11:49:03 PM): I considered putting syhto and makilaz alive fikshonjunkshon (11:49:19 PM): because I would jump in front of a train before I consider arfo being red fikshonjunkshon (11:49:36 PM): I told syhto to vote for makilaz and to put pressure on him going for emeraldwhen we were all fikshonjunkshon (11:49:43 PM): when we were all going for emerald* fikshonjunkshon (11:49:50 PM): she didn't fikshonjunkshon (11:49:52 PM): it worried me. fikshonjunkshon (11:50:15 PM): she then finally did it and was one of the most influential players in that round of votes fikshonjunkshon (11:50:19 PM): which also irked me a bit fikshonjunkshon (11:50:24 PM): I figrued, maybe they planned it fikshonjunkshon (11:50:34 PM): but I don't think they would have let it go that far fikshonjunkshon (11:50:40 PM): you know, allowing him to actually die fikshonjunkshon (11:50:49 PM): I told makilaz we'd do the same against syhto fikshonjunkshon (11:51:01 PM): but he backed out. he backed off from accussing me of being a wolf, too. fikshonjunkshon (11:51:10 PM): which was also very, very random of him fikshonjunkshon (11:51:13 PM): if not vindictive fikshonjunkshon (11:51:28 PM): didn't you notice that in the last 10 minutes of the day phase fikshonjunkshon (11:51:31 PM): he said I was green? fikshonjunkshon (11:51:41 PM): or that chances were that I was green? fikshonjunkshon (11:51:54 PM): you know, makilaz. the very guy I seemed to really want lynched? fikshonjunkshon (11:51:57 PM): but didn't vote for? fikshonjunkshon (11:52:04 PM): I didn't vote for him because I didn't need to fikshonjunkshon (11:52:06 PM): you all killed him fikshonjunkshon (11:52:09 PM): I had no part in it. fikshonjunkshon (11:52:31 PM): I was satisfied with my experiment even at the expense of a green fikshonjunkshon (11:52:44 PM): but I didn't think he was green at the time, I really pushed for him being red. fikshonjunkshon (11:52:49 PM): maybe I'm not explaining myself properly. sam97379 (11:52:51 PM): so you suspect syhto now? fikshonjunkshon (11:53:03 PM): I don't want to, really. but I wouldn't mind seeing a campaign against her fikshonjunkshon (11:53:10 PM): because just look at her suspect list fikshonjunkshon (11:53:17 PM): it's everyone but arfo and your crew of greens. fikshonjunkshon (11:53:27 PM): + me fikshonjunkshon (11:53:32 PM): tupac seems honest enough. fikshonjunkshon (11:53:41 PM): what bothers me is.. if makilaz was a wolf, syhto isn't. fikshonjunkshon (11:53:51 PM): unless they really went out of their way fikshonjunkshon (11:53:55 PM): which I hiiiiiiiiighly doubt fikshonjunkshon (11:53:59 PM): props to them if they did, though fikshonjunkshon (11:54:28 PM): the one thing that just surprised me was when I talked to makilaz the last half hour of the day phase fikshonjunkshon (11:54:32 PM): I told him fikshonjunkshon (11:54:37 PM): everything I just told youy fikshonjunkshon (11:55:29 PM): and I asked him to support arfo (he argued that I was more likely to be green now that you came out and posted about us being green and the whole ciorucmstances around the seer, etc etc etc) fikshonjunkshon (11:55:38 PM): and say I was green despite my heavy campaigning. fikshonjunkshon (11:55:46 PM): it would make him look crazy, though resolute fikshonjunkshon (11:55:59 PM): and would give me +points with everyone else. fikshonjunkshon (11:56:12 PM): because ultimately my goal was to go blue fishing fikshonjunkshon (11:56:16 PM): I won't even deny it fikshonjunkshon (11:56:17 PM): like why sam97379 (11:56:27 PM): uh fikshonjunkshon (11:56:45 PM): well, like I said. we're in the same position sam97379 (11:56:49 PM): I'm not the one who posted the seering thing fikshonjunkshon (11:57:03 PM): right, u84. my bad. fikshonjunkshon (11:57:06 PM): either way fikshonjunkshon (11:57:44 PM): so you're in syhto's list fikshonjunkshon (11:58:25 PM): what makes you stand out from that list other than the fact that you could very well have been placed there for the sake of separating each other from suspicion through affiliation? fikshonjunkshon (11:59:34 PM): because tupac's relationship to syhto is quite obvious sam97379 (11:59:36 PM): not much really fikshonjunkshon (11:59:49 PM): I'm not really in touch with her fikshonjunkshon (11:59:55 PM): vic, whatever fikshonjunkshon (11:59:57 PM): and you, eh? sam97379 (11:59:59 PM): you have a log with afro? Monday, November 09, 2009 fikshonjunkshon (12:00:06 AM): I don't keep logs. fikshonjunkshon (12:00:32 AM): the only log I saved this game was a loooooooong conersation fikshonjunkshon (12:00:35 AM): I had with emerald fikshonjunkshon (12:00:36 AM): before he died. sam97379 (12:00:58 AM): honestly I'm worried how neither of you have been wolved fikshonjunkshon (12:01:06 AM): yeah me too fikshonjunkshon (12:01:25 AM): it's especially excrutiating for me because fikshonjunkshon (12:01:29 AM): I really don't believe he's a wolf fikshonjunkshon (12:01:34 AM): and that's obviously incrimintaes me fikshonjunkshon (12:01:41 AM): but I don't believe he's a wolf fikshonjunkshon (12:01:42 AM): at all. fikshonjunkshon (12:02:01 AM): and if he is, he's taking enormous pleasure in seeing me break down ;_; fikshonjunkshon (12:02:17 AM): campaigning against him has crossed my mind many times fikshonjunkshon (12:02:22 AM): but I just can't fikshonjunkshon signed off at 12:19:19 AM
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it's not your business.Originally posted by j-rodd123Comment
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I can't figure myself. The only thing that makes any sense is that they don't see me as a threat. I definitely haven't been on my A game this time around, and my calls on who is and who is not a wolf have likely been way off.
I've waffled more than a few times when I probably should have stayed resolute.
Either that, or they don't realize that I'm solidly entrenched and I won't be lynched by humans at this point. If the wolves want me lynched, they'd have to use their voting power to get it done.
Why would you think that?
It is never possible to prove someone is a wolf just by the things they say. I can only present what you say and give commentary for what I think this means about your intentions, both on the surface and below the surface. A wolf is green on top, but red underneath. The plan is to peal back the layers to reveal the unconscious tips to your true intentions. Things like posting in favor of believing in the seer's mouth, but then still posting things that could spread FUD. On the surface you appear to be supportive of the seer's work, but underneath the surface you appear to be bitter and hope to undermine it.
But yeah, seems like no one even read it. I'd be pissed off about that if I hadn't shifted gears so hard at the beginning of this day.
If you recall, I asked you the same thing. I was trying to ascertain whether you would actually be a person who the psychic should come out to, and it turns out that even apart from my lingering suspicion on you, you are not.Originally posted by conjunction junction what's your fiction
Don't know what the case is here, and I haven't yet read that log with sc, but just saying.
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I know you better and I felt I had no reason to question you because you would make a big deal out of whatever response I gave you. Either way, I didn't really give you a straightforward answer and we discussed what I was doing and what you would do in response. The conversation went as I expected it to go.
Sc however wasn't really going to do anything with that info. I don't see him posting as often as we do, and think about it.. what kind of revolution do you think he's bound to start with that sort of information? If it were you, you'd make a long-worded post stating several reasons why we should lynch X or suspect Y. SC plays in the background and keeps to himself. I would have surely played through AIM and tried to influence other players in your position.
tl;dr despite the obvious need-to-know rule behind seer/psychic information, there's more reason to suspect sc than arfo in regards to their questioning.Originally posted by j-rodd123Comment
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Talked to Syhto this evening and my suspicions of her are squelched for the moment.
I've got a few more things to say to her, but apparently fried bananas are more important than TWG.Comment
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Current vote count:
tupac-a2p
syhto-fic
clar-syhto
Insta is at 5 votes. Day ends in roughly 24 hours.Comment
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Preface information: u84 told me he was the seer the day he came out. He told me the plan was to hide himself in the open to make the wolves think he was a lowly green who wouldn't be worth wolfing.
Notice that syhto herself thought this might be the case, so the wolf kill NOT being one of the "seer'd greens" leads me to believe she is not a wolf. Were she a wolf, she would have gone after the seer. Panda being killed was likely a FRAMEUP, as u84 knew about the situation with Panda Express LONG before I broke the news at the beginning of the day.
tl;dr: u84 is a wolf. There are only 2 wolves left. Logically, one of the wolves is among u84's named "seer'd greens". And finally, following this train of thought, fiction is the sort of person who would think up faking red in this way, knowing I'd trust it completely and argue strongly in favor of it. u84 could potentially have thought it all up on his own though, and it could instead be jwc who is the fourth wolf.Code:(2:57:34 PM) u84 77: [B]Hey, so I seered Panda.. luckily he wasn't psychic and only green[/B], so I'm pretty sure he was telling the truth. So yeah, I'm alive, so I'd say I fully trust you. This may be a really good ploy on your part or something, but I'm willing to take the risk. My guess at this point is that the wolves left are the following in order of my suspicions: [B]Sytho, Tupac, A2P and Vic[/B]. I strongly support getting sytho lynched today. After all of the very odd posts from Tupac, I support him the next day, but sadly, I'm sure that they will realize after the next night that either[B] the seer is already dead or that the names I gave were fake when they start lynch us[/B]. I fear me or you will die the upcoming night, so it's imperitive we learn as much as possible this day phase and the time before the end of night. When you get this, please talk back, even if I'm mobile. I will answer. (2:57:34 PM) Me <AUTO-REPLY> : syhto, dont hate me for wanting you dead ;) (11/9/2009 10:21:42 PM) Me: you there? (10:21:42 PM) u8477 <AUTO-REPLY> : Your IM has been sent to my mobile device. When I receive it, I will be able to reply. Thanks for your IM! Want your IMs forwarded to your phone? Click here (10:40:48 PM) u84 77: Hey Afro, guess wh['s dumb. (10:40:52 PM) u84 77: *whp's (10:40:55 PM) Me: lol (10:40:57 PM) Me: whats up (10:40:59 PM) u84 77: **who's dammit (10:41:21 PM) u84 77: syhto is a ****ing wolf and i got it into my head she wasn't (10:41:27 PM) Me: what (10:41:32 PM) u84 77: she mind-****ed me (10:41:40 PM) Me: she's not unintelligent (10:41:43 PM) u84 77: I caught her last night, but it was too late (10:41:48 PM) Me: caught her last night"? (10:41:54 PM) u84 77: I was talking to her (10:41:59 PM) u84 77: [B]she came to me as psychic[/B] (10:42:03 PM) Me: ....................................... (10:42:07 PM) u84 77: yeah (10:42:12 PM) u84 77: I thought she was bull at first (10:42:57 PM) u84 77: But then she completely caught me off guard later that night after a good time with some homemade stuff (10:43:09 PM) u84 77: [B]I told her i was seer[/B] (10:43:13 PM) Me: :| (10:43:28 PM) Me: in that case, you're likely as good as dead (10:43:35 PM) u84 77: Not necessarily (10:43:39 PM) u84 77: Two things: [B](10:43:43 PM) u84 77: tupac should be clear (10:43:50 PM) u84 77: she is trying like all hell to get him lynched[/B] (10:43:51 PM) Me: not necessarily (10:43:55 PM) Me: did you read what I said (10:44:05 PM) Me: has she been pushing hard on tupac BEFORE (10:44:06 PM) u84 77: I have not yet been on the thread today (10:44:10 PM) Me: before I attacked him (10:44:20 PM) Me: I said it yesterday (10:44:22 PM) Me: or this morning (10:44:33 PM) Me: midnight shift ****s up my understanding of days [B](10:44:39 PM) u84 77: Yeah but either way, she wouldn't go out on her own wolf like that (10:44:50 PM) u84 77: Like they got into full-fledged arguments[/B] [B][editor note: this has happened between wolves in the past. Not unprecedented. He'd be foolish to throw away suspicion on one player just because another player he fought with was "surely" a wolf][/B] (10:45:05 PM) Me: no dude (10:45:08 PM) Me: she is a sharp one (10:45:13 PM) u84 77: Tupac groups you and her in the same manner (10:45:13 PM) Me: she absolutely WOULD kill her partner (10:45:26 PM) Me: to make a SOLID relationship between them (10:45:33 PM) u84 77: hmm.. (10:45:44 PM) Me: especially if the wolves are desperate (10:45:46 PM) u84 77: well regardless I've got an idea to try and clear my name (10:45:56 PM) Me: clear your name? (10:46:03 PM) u84 77: she knows I'm the seer (10:46:06 PM) u84 77: I'm ****ed (10:46:14 PM) u84 77: But I think I might could weasel my way out (10:46:30 PM) Me: if she's a wolf, you're as good as ****ed (10:46:33 PM) Me: incidentally (10:46:36 PM) u84 77: With some strong planning and such, i think i can do it [B](10:46:42 PM) Me: what did she say regarding role reveals (10:46:50 PM) Me: gun, emerald, maki (10:47:01 PM) u84 77: hmm? (10:47:07 PM) Me: she said she was the psychic right (10:47:22 PM) Me: did you not tell her to immediately give you psychic reports? [/B](10:47:46 PM) u84 77: oh that okay (10:47:47 PM) u84 77: yeah [B](10:47:51 PM) u84 77: she said two wolves are left (10:47:59 PM) Me: but which 2 we killed were wolve (10:48:13 PM) u84 77: It doesn't say that, I don't think. (10:48:17 PM) Me: ............. (10:48:24 PM) u84 77: At least she didn't say[/B] (10:48:29 PM) Me: .................... (10:48:38 PM) Me: how do you not understand something as simple (10:48:43 PM) Me: as role reveals via psychic report (10:48:48 PM) Me: we lynched gun at day 1 (10:48:57 PM) Me: if at beginning of day 2, there are 4 wolves, he was green (10:48:58 PM) u84 77: oh yueah (10:48:58 PM) u84 77: nvm (10:49:06 PM) Me: if beginning of day 2 there are 3, he was red (10:49:10 PM) u84 77: Sorry, no that's how i caught her (10:49:18 PM) Me: what do you mean [B](10:49:48 PM) u84 77: I remember asking her which ones she thought were the wolves and she said she didn't know and said that she thinks it might be X and gave some [/B][B]bull****[/B] [B][editor's note: Why wasn't THIS the sign that he had nailed a wolf that he said right away. Rather than saying, "I caught her claiming to be psychic," say, "I caught her claiming to be blue and she claimed to not know who the wolves were we had gotten."][/B] (10:50:00 PM) Me: LOL (10:50:02 PM) u84 77: if she's psychic, she gets nightly reports (10:50:05 PM) u84 77: lol (10:50:14 PM) Me: so wait (10:50:18 PM) u84 77: so she would know exactly who was lynched as wolf (10:50:19 PM) Me: why did I need to wait for you (10:50:25 PM) Me: before we just immediately go and kill her (10:50:37 PM) u84 77: she thinks i fully trust her (10:50:43 PM) u84 77: but anyway (10:50:46 PM) Me: lol (10:50:49 PM) Me: wait (10:50:50 PM) u84 77: I need your help with this one (10:50:52 PM) Me: I want to talk to her (10:50:55 PM) Me: with what (10:50:56 PM) u84 77: okay but hold on (10:51:22 PM) u84 77: Alright (10:51:23 PM) u84 77: so (10:51:51 PM) u84 77: if i somehow convince her that i was lying because i still didn't trust her, she might buy it. (10:52:10 PM) Me: waity (10:52:10 PM) u84 77: The other way would be to find the other wolf and be like "haha, i convinced syhto i was seer. dumb bitch." (10:52:23 PM) Me: there is nothing you can do, man (10:52:30 PM) Me: if you try to reverse back now (10:52:36 PM) Me: she'll know you dont trust her (10:52:41 PM) Me: i mean (10:52:46 PM) Me: seriously, you're dead either way (10:53:04 PM) Me: I just want to talk to her briefly [B](10:53:09 PM) u84 77: she's starting a chat[/B] [B][Here is where the chat came around. I asked her basic information about being the psychic and apart from the "slipup" u84 referred to regarding her inability to name the lynched wolves, everything checked out just fine.][/B] (10:53:10 PM) Me: with her thinking she's on the inside (10:53:16 PM) u84 77: right (10:53:16 PM) Me: ok (10:53:24 PM) Me: dont let her know that she's not trused (10:53:40 PM) u84 77: alright (10:53:53 PM) u84 77: there's gotta be a way though to throw her off my trail.. (10:54:01 PM) Me: there isnt (10:54:31 PM) u84 77: alright keep talking to me here (10:54:56 PM) Me: really bro, if she's a wolf, you're effed (10:55:05 PM) u84 77: I'm pretty sure I am.. [B](10:55:30 PM) u84 77: notice how she's changed her story[/B] [B][Incoming irony...][/B] (10:55:34 PM) u84 77: should i point it out (10:55:49 PM) Me: i wanna get a little more out of her (10:55:51 PM) Me: before dropping that (10:55:52 PM) u84 77: ok (10:58:01 PM) u84 77: she knows you know i'm seer (10:58:40 PM) Me: im trying to subtly imply that I dont lol (11:01:14 PM) Me: actually, you know, trusting in her might not be that bad... [B](11:01:17 PM) Me: do you have the log before (11:01:28 PM) Me: where she apparently didnt know who the wolves were of our lynches? (11:01:38 PM) u84 77: uhh i hope so (11:01:40 PM) u84 77: lemme check (11:01:56 PM) Me: you ****ing better (11:02:49 PM) Me: also: somethign else (11:03:01 PM) Me: when she said "she was too drunk to talk TWG" and that she might slip up (11:03:10 PM) Me: that is actually something a blue would be thinking as well as a red (11:03:29 PM) Me: Im going to need to see that log to decide whether or not i think she's red at this point (11:03:47 PM) u84 77: Alright (11:03:55 PM) u84 77: But I'm telling you I don't trust her (11:04:00 PM) u84 77: And I think I'm ****ed (11:04:12 PM) Me: well (11:04:27 PM) Me: like I said before when I was attacking her (11:04:48 PM) Me: if a wolf is told who the seer is, they will absolutely attack them if that person could reasonably be attacked anyway (11:05:03 PM) Me: you being a seer'd green would be a logical kill choice, as it doesn't help us (11:05:08 PM) Me: and ti also severs our tie tothe seer (11:05:26 PM) u84 77: Ehh, I don't know, though. (11:05:32 PM) u84 77: Hold on the IM Archive is loading up (11:05:41 PM) Me: IM archive loading up??? (11:06:02 PM) u84 77: Like, you click on show history (11:06:06 PM) u84 77: im history (11:06:12 PM) u84 77: and the im archive of your ims (11:06:18 PM) Me: you should use pidgin (11:06:21 PM) u84 77: opens up on IE (11:06:21 PM) Me: loads instantly (11:06:26 PM) u84 77: oh really? (11:06:28 PM) Me: durpa (11:06:30 PM) u84 77: i just might (11:06:35 PM) u84 77: this computer is SO slow[/B] [B] [editor's note: notice that it took him -6 minutes- to get this little snippet. Syhto provided a FULL LOG much more quickly (took about 4 minutes from me mentioning it to having it in hand) and without giving BS reasons for how long it took.][/B] [B](11:11:35 PM) u84 77: u84 77 (7:43:52 PM):Now you said there are two wolves left?amanetora (7:44:04 PM):yes, there are twou84 77 (7:44:13 PM):Who were they?amanetora (7:44:31 PM):all i get is a count of humans and a count of wolvesamanetora (7:44:38 PM):the wolf count is 2u84 77 (7:44:49 PM):Oh, so it doesn't say who or anything?amanetora (7:44:54 PM):no, it doesn'tu84 77 (7:45:06 PM):That sucks..amanetora (7:45:19 PM):i believe that one of the wolves was maki though.[/B] (11:11:38 PM) u84 77: dammit (11:11:42 PM) u84 77: tried to seperate it (11:11:45 PM) u84 77: whatever (11:12:07 PM) Me: :| (11:12:33 PM) Me: hold on (11:12:54 PM) u84 77: k (11:20:15 PM) u84 77: What say ye? [B][editor's note: THe next entry from me is the "same" snippet from a FULL log that I got from Syhto. A full log that I got -within a couple minutes-. I don't see how she could have faked this whole log that quickly. ][/B] (11:20:22 PM) Me: u84 77 (6:43:46 PM): Now you said there are two wolves left? amanetora (6:43:58 PM): yes, there are two u84 77 (6:44:07 PM): Is that just two reds? amanetora (6:44:25 PM): all i get is a count of humans and a count of wolves amanetora (6:44:31 PM): the wolf count is 2 u84 77 (6:44:43 PM): Oh, so it doesn't say how many green and how many red? amanetora (6:44:47 PM): no, it doesn't u84 77 (6:45:00 PM): That's relieving then amanetora (6:45:13 PM): i believe that one of the wolves left is indeed the mw. u84 77 (6:45:25 PM): That blows.. u84 77 (6:45:37 PM): Have you any information on suspects? [B][notice that he doesn't seem at all interested in WHICH TWO wolves were killed. She says "there are two wolves killed, he doesn't ask. Later on in the log she says it was Maki and Gun][/B] [B](11:20:53 PM) Me: so, I can be sure that either you or her is a wolf [/B](11:21:04 PM) u84 77: Wtf? (11:21:19 PM) u84 77: that sly little bitch.. (11:21:37 PM) Me: :\ (11:22:02 PM) Me: so we can go ahead with killing her [B](11:22:07 PM) Me: but im going to be pissed at endgame (11:22:09 PM) Me: if you were a wolf (11:22:26 PM) u84 77: As funny as that would be, I'm not.[/B] (11:22:32 PM) Me: because it'd mean that I greatly underestimated you (11:22:46 PM) u84 77: But I'm really ****ing sweating getting wolfed.. (11:22:58 PM) Me: I wouldnt even think wacky fiction to be sharp enough to come up with a fake plan that would play out the way your tactic has played out (11:23:14 PM) Me: well seriously dude, you havent exactly been that tight with the info (11:23:32 PM) u84 77: lol that's the way i play i guess (11:23:38 PM) Me: I mean, imagine a scenario where syhto is really the psychic and im red (11:23:47 PM) Me: you'd both be ****ed up the ass (11:23:53 PM) u84 77: nah (11:23:57 PM) u84 77: you'd have killed me already (11:24:15 PM) Me: no, I would have kept you alive and subtlely directed you away from my partners (11:24:22 PM) Me: so long as I was sure you trusted me (11:24:33 PM) u84 77: I see the possibility, i just get the sense [B](11:24:44 PM) u84 77: That you're hume and she's wolf[/B] [B][notice that according to his claims, neither of us have been seer'd. He told me last night that PANDA was seer'd green, but he told Syhto that I had been seer'd green.][/B] (11:24:51 PM) u84 77: it's a bit too late for her (11:24:54 PM) u84 77: but seriously (11:25:24 PM) u84 77: if maybe i talk to everyone left and be like "haha dumb bitch syhto thinks im seer," it might get back to her and i could live another phase (11:25:56 PM) Me: maybe not so crude (11:26:10 PM) u84 77: well no (11:26:12 PM) Me: but you could subtlely mention you had a plan in place where you could sacrifice yourself for the seer (11:26:15 PM) u84 77: jyst an example (11:26:18 PM) u84 77: right (11:26:22 PM) u84 77: that's what i was thinking (11:26:30 PM) Me: like "yeah, Ive hinted to a few players Im the seer, so they might go after me instead of the real seer" (11:26:42 PM) u84 77: Yeah. (11:26:47 PM) Me: itd have to be sure to be at least one wolf though (11:26:53 PM) u84 77: right (11:27:02 PM) u84 77: so i already started that with tupac (11:27:04 PM) Me: you could just contact all of the unknowns (11:27:15 PM) u84 77: but i'll try it with fic, a2p and vic as well (11:27:17 PM) Me: there is only like 3 or 4 in the unknown pool (11:27:35 PM) Me: vic definitely, fiction and a2p not as much (11:27:43 PM) u84 77: why not? (11:27:51 PM) u84 77: i'd say they're just as likely (11:27:53 PM) Me: theyre seer'd green and unlikely to be wolves (11:27:56 PM) u84 77: well not just as (11:27:57 PM) Me: you dont need to tell EVERY wolf (11:27:58 PM) u84 77: but still (11:28:02 PM) Me: if you tell EVERY wolf (11:28:07 PM) Me: they might realize whats up (11:28:12 PM) Me: and figure you told EVERY player (11:28:21 PM) u84 77: true.. (11:28:29 PM) u84 77: but how can we be sure of the wolf? (11:28:31 PM) Me: so maybe try and decide who could be wolves together (11:28:36 PM) Me: and only contact one from each group (11:29:11 PM) u84 77: hmm.. (11:29:17 PM) u84 77: alright that's a good plan (11:29:29 PM) u84 77: alright, well i gotta hit the sack (11:29:39 PM) Me: :| (11:29:55 PM) Me: so I guess we're waiting until the last second to put the lynch on syhto? (11:29:57 PM) u84 77: you think you could maybe give that a start for me and send me a pm so i can continue it tomorrow before night phase ends? (11:30:02 PM) u84 77: yeah (11:30:15 PM) u84 77: I'd like to string her along and maybe get some info first
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