TWG XXXVIII: THE RACE FOR THE PRESIDENCY

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  • FoJaR
    The Worst
    • Nov 2005
    • 2816

    #16
    Re: TWG XXXVIII: THE RACE FOR THE PRESIDENCY

    Originally posted by iggymatrixcounter
    @Fojar: you said you talked to people, what did you talk about?
    not sure what you're reffering to, but please PM or AIM me.

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    • talisman
      Resident Penguin
      FFR Simfile Author
      • May 2003
      • 4598

      #17
      Re: TWG XXXVIII: THE RACE FOR THE PRESIDENCY

      iggy's idea with the numbers is interesting. although you'd think fojar could have just done that with names too.

      about concerns of the wolves block voting, I think that fojar specifically mentioned in the game thread that this would be balanced somehow. meaning there's some blue that sees votes somehow or gets to subtract votes from someone or add votes to someone or something. my hope is that if the wolves do it they'll get caught somehow. Or be afraid of getting caught and not do it at all.

      on vote revealing... I propose we do so after the fact. Meaning day two we reveal who we voted for day one. obviously some of the same dangers iggy just pointed out would still be there in terms of wolves being able to see what people are trending towards (but that stuff always changes). yet there would be a greater potential for information gain as wolves I think would be compelled to tell the truth (the votes have to add up), or else look stupid trying to justify a random vote (since that would be the easiest way to lie).

      also

      There can't be a Blue that has the power to see all who voted for the lynchee. Not only would that make it easier for the wolves to pick out those who aren't following to suit, it would also make it quite difficult to tell who was truthfully voting or just bandwagoning in order to escape a block vote.
      that made no sense to me at all. if there's a blue that can see who voted for who died, then that doesn't mean that the wolves are magically privy to that information. I feel like a step was left out of that logic.

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      • Chromer
        Hookers and Blow
        • Jul 2003
        • 4981

        #18
        Re: TWG XXXVIII: THE RACE FOR THE PRESIDENCY

        Originally posted by talisman
        iggy's idea with the numbers is interesting. although you'd think fojar could have just done that with names too.

        about concerns of the wolves block voting, I think that fojar specifically mentioned in the game thread that this would be balanced somehow. meaning there's some blue that sees votes somehow or gets to subtract votes from someone or add votes to someone or something. my hope is that if the wolves do it they'll get caught somehow. Or be afraid of getting caught and not do it at all.

        on vote revealing... I propose we do so after the fact. Meaning day two we reveal who we voted for day one. obviously some of the same dangers iggy just pointed out would still be there in terms of wolves being able to see what people are trending towards (but that stuff always changes). yet there would be a greater potential for information gain as wolves I think would be compelled to tell the truth (the votes have to add up), or else look stupid trying to justify a random vote (since that would be the easiest way to lie).

        also



        that made no sense to me at all. if there's a blue that can see who voted for who died, then that doesn't mean that the wolves are magically privy to that information. I feel like a step was left out of that logic.
        No that's not what I meant. If there were some type of alliance going on and the Blue was able to pick up on those who voted on one person because of an alliance, it would make it a little easier to distinguish those teaming up from those going lone-wolf (no pun intended.)

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        • DiscoBobbyPARANOiA
          FFR Player
          • Sep 2005
          • 1206

          #19
          Re: TWG XXXVIII: THE RACE FOR THE PRESIDENCY

          Originally posted by talisman
          on vote revealing... I propose we do so after the fact. Meaning day two we reveal who we voted for day one. obviously some of the same dangers iggy just pointed out would still be there in terms of wolves being able to see what people are trending towards (but that stuff always changes). yet there would be a greater potential for information gain as wolves I think would be compelled to tell the truth (the votes have to add up), or else look stupid trying to justify a random vote (since that would be the easiest way to lie).
          I think this would be our best bet. It prevents the wolves from getting a double kill for the lynch whenever they please like HiTheyCallMeGod suggested, but it will also help us know what's going on, and possibly catch some wolves making mistakes.


          Iggy911Mc (12:55:49 AM): Mudkip is a Koala Bear.

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          • JurseyRider734
            lil j the bad b-word
            • Aug 2003
            • 7509

            #20
            Re: TWG XXXVIII: THE RACE FOR THE PRESIDENCY

            [23:09] <MiniNeo> hi im minineo
            [23:09] <Jurs> he's a wolf
            [23:09] <MiniNeo> o thnap
            [23:09] <MiniNeo> wiat are you in this twg
            [23:09] <Jurs> uh no
            [23:09] <MiniNeo> k then i am a wolf


            Hahahahahahahaha owned.
            Originally posted by Arch0wl
            I'd better be considering I own roughly six textbooks on logic and have taken courses involving its extensive use

            Originally posted by Afrobean
            Originally Posted by JurseyRider734
            the fact that you're resorting to threatening physical violence says a lot anyway.
            Just that you're a piece of shit who can't see reason and instead deserves a fucking beating.

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            • JurseyRider734
              lil j the bad b-word
              • Aug 2003
              • 7509

              #21
              Re: TWG XXXVIII: THE RACE FOR THE PRESIDENCY

              Apparently he's "joking", though.
              Originally posted by Arch0wl
              I'd better be considering I own roughly six textbooks on logic and have taken courses involving its extensive use

              Originally posted by Afrobean
              Originally Posted by JurseyRider734
              the fact that you're resorting to threatening physical violence says a lot anyway.
              Just that you're a piece of shit who can't see reason and instead deserves a fucking beating.

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              • MiniNeo
                FFR Player
                • Sep 2004
                • 454

                #22
                Re: TWG XXXVIII: THE RACE FOR THE PRESIDENCY

                hi im minineo and im smat

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                • MiniNeo
                  FFR Player
                  • Sep 2004
                  • 454

                  #23
                  Re: TWG XXXVIII: THE RACE FOR THE PRESIDENCY

                  oh and ps

                  (20:08:45) (Jurs) who else is a wolf with you
                  (20:08:48) (MiniNeo) em
                  (20:08:51) (MiniNeo) archowl nima and synthlight
                  (20:08:52) (MiniNeo) wait
                  (20:09:00) (Jurs) o my good wolf team u got there
                  (20:09:06) (MiniNeo) godly

                  (20:11:05) (Jurs) how many wolves are there this game
                  (20:11:11) (MiniNeo) 4 we think
                  (20:11:14) (MiniNeo) MYSTERY ROLES

                  (20:11:32) (MiniNeo) yeah i guses
                  (20:11:35) (MiniNeo) or did fojar say it
                  (20:11:37) (Jurs) i thought you were a wolf, don't you KNOW?
                  (20:11:37) (MiniNeo) i don't really know
                  (20:11:38) (MiniNeo) whatever
                  (20:11:43) (MiniNeo) what?
                  (20:11:47) (MiniNeo) oh you thought i was serious rofl
                  (20:12:04) (Jurs) O
                  (20:12:23) (Jurs) o
                  (20:12:28) (MiniNeo) op
                  (20:12:39) (Minion) whoopsy
                  (20:12:55) (Jurs) um
                  (20:13:03) (Jurs) ps mini i am playing this game hehe
                  (20:13:07) (MiniNeo) oh rofl
                  (20:13:42) (Jurs) whatever i still posted that though
                  (20:13:43) (Jurs) BBL!
                  (20:13:49) (MiniNeo) o kay

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                  • Chromer
                    Hookers and Blow
                    • Jul 2003
                    • 4981

                    #24
                    Re: TWG XXXVIII: THE RACE FOR THE PRESIDENCY

                    -_-

                    Anyways, seeing as how we don't know who the hell is who yet, this first day is going to be a little hairy. O_o

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                    • xObserveRx
                      FFR Simfile Author
                      FFR Simfile Author
                      • Aug 2003
                      • 1148

                      #25
                      Re: TWG XXXVIII: THE RACE FOR THE PRESIDENCY

                      Originally posted by Chromer
                      -_-

                      Anyways, seeing as how we don't know who the hell is who yet, this first day is going to be a little hairy. O_o
                      I see what you did there. Smooth.
                      Come Play The Werewolf Game!

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                      • DiscoBobbyPARANOiA
                        FFR Player
                        • Sep 2005
                        • 1206

                        #26
                        Re: TWG XXXVIII: THE RACE FOR THE PRESIDENCY

                        So... are we all just going to throw random votes out and hope we hit 5 on someone so the wolves don't get to pick the kill?

                        We need to do something about this, and if we just sit until the end of the day the wolves are going to get to pick the next two candidates to go.


                        Iggy911Mc (12:55:49 AM): Mudkip is a Koala Bear.

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                        • FoJaR
                          The Worst
                          • Nov 2005
                          • 2816

                          #27
                          Re: TWG XXXVIII: THE RACE FOR THE PRESIDENCY

                          EVEN THOUGH I SAID I'D GO EASY ON THE FIRST DAY, I STILL EXPECT YOU TO POST

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                          • HiTheyCallMeGod
                            FFR Player
                            • Nov 2005
                            • 57

                            #28
                            Re: TWG XXXVIII: THE RACE FOR THE PRESIDENCY

                            Well, we could just announce one name to vote for on the thread, and everyone votes for them, then as long as most people vote for them, they wouldn't have control. God this no public voting is making my brain itch.
                            Originally posted by sertman
                            HiTheyCallMeGod angrily stood up, picked a chair up, and nashed it to pieces with his two front teeth.

                            "I'M NOT ON STEROIDS!!!" he yelled, angrily picking up his folder, throwing it at TPS, and storming out of the room, ripping the door off of its hinges.

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                            • talisman
                              Resident Penguin
                              FFR Simfile Author
                              • May 2003
                              • 4598

                              #29
                              Re: TWG XXXVIII: THE RACE FOR THE PRESIDENCY

                              the whole point of voting, at this stage of the game anyway, is to get information about people's stances/suspicions/etc. If we all massively lynch someone then there's no information to be gained (ie the wolves just go with the crowd).

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                              • JurseyRider734
                                lil j the bad b-word
                                • Aug 2003
                                • 7509

                                #30
                                Re: TWG XXXVIII: THE RACE FOR THE PRESIDENCY

                                Uh, probably one of the main points of sending in votes instead of posting them is so that they're anonymous. A lot of people base their suspicions on who people vote, and now that they don't have this information it's a LOT harder to place a vote.

                                They could write 4 paragraphs on why they're going to vote this one person, but then vote for a completely different person when it comes to PMing Fojar. That's one of the main reasons it makes this game harder to trust people and harder to find the wolves. Hopefully there are only 3.
                                Originally posted by Arch0wl
                                I'd better be considering I own roughly six textbooks on logic and have taken courses involving its extensive use

                                Originally posted by Afrobean
                                Originally Posted by JurseyRider734
                                the fact that you're resorting to threatening physical violence says a lot anyway.
                                Just that you're a piece of shit who can't see reason and instead deserves a fucking beating.

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