TWG CLXXI - The Reaper's Game - POST-GAME

[blindreper1179]

Re: TWG CLXXI - The Reaper's Game - POST-GAME

So you read me based more on what I did, not how I did?

[blindreper1179]

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Also lar, I hope this proves I dont scum read you all the time.

[DarkManticoreX2]

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Ok.

Why does no one listen to me?

When I tried to save sunfan, why was I read wolfy by everyone but a wolf? I honestly missed by seconds. Didn't see forces post.

In this particular game I personally didn't feel like you did much scumhunting. Your pushes felt weak and unsubstantiated. This isn't a bash on you. I personally didn't feel like you stuck your neck out for anyone with the exception of attempting to throw yourself into the kitb.

The problem with that move is that it unintentionally made you look like you were trying to save xelnya from the lynch. When xel went down and flipped roleblocker it was a logical conclusion to draw that you were sacrificing yourself to get the lynch off of him even though the conclusion was wrong.

[the sun fan]

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to be real, and to talk about what Manti said here, everything /is/ your fault

that's right I'm talking 2 u behind that computer screen/phone... screen

if you approach the game like everything is your fault, then you will focus on the things you did wrong

I had both Haku and T-Force tell me that I did nothing wrong this game or that I could've done nothing to prevent being mislynched

this is 100% wrong just functionally based on how werewolf functions as a game unless you're one of those people that believe that everything that happens happened the way it did because its the only way things could ever have happened

I went pretty well on the wolves, and part of the reason I died was because 2/3 were on my wagon, but I def made some mistakes despite imo playing pretty well for someone that got mislynched. Here are some mistakes I feel like I made

Xiz is a pos and had a terrible push on me and I def let him get away with saying shit like "well you COULD have noticed that Lar was a PR and pushed him" as his scumread on me instead of forcing him to prove that that was what was happening

I def didn't kiss and make up with roundbox and cel well enough. I did get Cel to read Xel's iso, but he just didn't see what I saw and we couldn't get together. roundbox couldn't get over me parking my vote (Which imo is a really bad reason to scumread someone!!!!! bein honest here). TBH I'd like some input here as to what I could've done better; getting people to want to listen to me is something that I feel like happens less and less lately, not sure if I'm getting worse at it or people are becoming more paranoid of me, a combo or something else entirely

I def read into Rapta not knowing what he was doing wrong, as did everyone I think except WV. Either way, he would be in a land he'd never been before, and that def made me look past some things like the very early self-pres vote on me that maybe I wouldn't look past normally.

Honestly I didn't really think this during the game but I probably am a dumbass for lynching Lar there. That one might be a bit easy.

[the sun fan]

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for people that misread blind
I mean maybe you don't look for emotion but if you look at blind's emotion once Lar was mislynched

I don't think that is ever faked there.

its what I used this game; maybe I'm wrong. blind did say he felt like he's getting better at faking emotion as a wolf I think, so maybe my days are numbered with that kind of read on him.

but I've used stuff like that on him to great success in the past.

[Wayward Vagabond]

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So you read me based more on what I did, not how I did?

Yeah pretty much. It wasn't until the slips that I started wolf reading you though. I had a slight lean but it wasn't anything that could be changed. After the slips and your lack of self defense made me think you just didn't care about continuing the fight

[the sun fan]

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I shiould say that there is more than one person saying that they don't feel responsible for the human loss

this is bad

u didn't play perfectly

u are part of the reason why town lost

manti is right that you need to focus on what you did wrong and why

you need to take responsibility for what you did wrong even if you believe and even if you are right that people played worse than you on the townside

[Wayward Vagabond]

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For the record I don't honestly believe I didn't do anything wrong

[Hakulyte]

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I forgot to provide a serious read list before the xelnya lynch. I didn't expect to get NK'd at all.

I was pretty sure DBP would get NK'd before me somehow. Gotta work on that planning.

[the sun fan]

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For the record I don't honestly believe I didn't do anything wrong

I know, its not directed at you, I could see the sarcasm

[inDheart]

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this reminds me of the postgame for my game where i was all "getting this up so yall can discuss" and mml comes in with "what is there to discuss we did bad"

there oughta be plenty though

based off semi following the last day i don't think people were leveraging the rest of the game very much, though manti seemed to be using wagonomics as a baseline

[DarkManticoreX2]

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Tforce, the invite links have expired in the OP. Can you replace them with permalinks

[Hakulyte]

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@Gradiant

It's kind of obvious, but you were right that friend system sucks etc.

I need to stop things like that and find a better way to consolidate values with how to approach the game. I feel like it has to be a volunteer effort at the very least otherwise I'm compromising other's "fun" which is actually important.

Pushes are good, but I think sometimes town just doesn't know what to do and it's like I want to raise awareness, but don't know how to properly express that.

I guess players aren't really here to be coached, they probably mostly just want to do their own thing @ "play the game and find that wolf", but I feel like TWG is more than that.

[Wayward Vagabond]

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Coach me haku

[DarkManticoreX2]

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I think as a collective we made a few misplays as well. I wanna go over them later tonight