TWG CLXX Anything but Nekopara Game Thread

[FreezinIce]

Re: TWG CLXX Anything but Nekopara Game Thread

Said the piece of trash

cute

when exactly did you write those notes? During the day in real time? At the end of the day?

[sanzath]

Re: TWG CLXX Anything but Nekopara Game Thread

im back home.

time to sift through your trash.

Said the piece of trash

[FreezinIce]

Re: TWG CLXX Anything but Nekopara Game Thread

im back home.

time to sift through your trash.

[sanzath]

Re: TWG CLXX Anything but Nekopara Game Thread

Well I wasn't intending to talk about this really, but with posting the notes, it bears explaining:

The "bluehinting" part in the notes on myself might look weird. I had a very early gameplan to drop a few hints that I had killpower in an attempt to bait a nightkill from the wolves, but I kind of gave it up when Yoshl went full aggro on me, so that never really went anywhere

[sanzath]

Re: TWG CLXX Anything but Nekopara Game Thread

You're going to enjoy this

TWG CLXX Anything but Nekopara Game Thread

C9++

Normal note
>Vote note
= Reads list
-- Comment

Note rereads are from #900 (page 46)

@blind, @grad, @opk, @cel, @manti, @xiz, @me/@I/@my/@sanz, @rbox, @yoshl, @charu, @raeko/@freezin, @wv, @dbp

1) blindreper1179
Day 0
>grad because they haven't played together for a while #8
"Didn't want to go down this road" with @grad, because G mocked him #28
Responds to @grad, and also, #194
>WV because not invited to lit af party #194
Wants @me to make it to day 2 #195
Chimes in that @yoshl>@raeko is because easy target #319
Comments in that @yoshl/@dbp just went full circle (same question and answer multiple times) #368
-- tbh now that I reread it is true
Gets mad at @yoshl calling him a smart ass and telling him to get off his high horse #377
Calls out @Yoshl for allcapsing and belittling @me and then calling @blind overly defensive #391
= @Manti still alive after d1 = wolf manti #410
Mocking @raeko (I think) for her first post #544
Plops in when @rbox pings him, explains he's not a fan of d0 #633
confused @rbox's posting, doesn't understand the gimmick #655
= scum scum scum on @xiz #697
Confused by @wv's reasoning on @xiz (scumlean etc) #829

@blind, @grad, @opk, @cel, @manti, @xiz, @me/@I/@my/@sanz, @rbox, @yoshl, @charu, @raeko/@freezin, @wv, @dbp

2) Gradiant
Day 0
>Charu because he's mocking @Blind's shitvote #12
>Unvote, but thinks @blind's shitvote might not actually be a shitvote #186
Notes that the only thing of interest in the @yoshl/@me stuff is a "bad vote" from @opk #263
Calls out @opk for "waiting for others to do stuff and give their thoughts" #503
-- He was just pinging the inactives, chill out bud
Claims @raeko is always this way with posting (early jump in and don't do anything useful) re @blind #635
Calls out @opk for wanting to lynch @raeko but not having the same opinion on @cel nor @grad? #641
-- These are some interesting interactions, focusing strangely on @opk
= Thinks @opk looks bad in general for how he's reacting to people reacting to his reads list #663
> @xiz, thinks he's wrong about @opk being wolf and @xiz backed off because pressuring a super defensive town would look bad on him #670-671
Calling out @xiz on being lazy #677
= @opk is top wolf after @xiz because of their interaction together #793
= Also calls @raeko really gross because of the way she's (not) participating #793
Wonders what @opk means by his "turn the tables" comment #794
= Happy with @dbp because mindmelds #802
= Calling out @raeko like fuck about her tiny amount of content #863
Claims to always look at a playerlist to know what to expect for the game #867
-- I'm really not liking this, it's like he has too much confidence about what's going on with @raeko
= Reads semi-list: #893
= Scummy: @xiz
= Town: @dbp, @yoshl, Townish: @charu
= Unimportant: everyone else

@blind, @grad, @opk, @cel, @manti, @xiz, @me/@I/@my/@sanz, @rbox, @yoshl, @charu, @raeko/@freezin, @wv, @dbp

3) xXOpkillerXx
Day 0
Doesn't grasp the concept that sheeps are wolves in disguise, I guess, then shitposts that @I am a wolf #201
Maths shitposts #207
Calling @me sanzwolf and asking me for my gameplan #212
Picks a small fight with @yoshl, #226
-- go you!!
Calls out @yoshl on taking shitposts seriously #230
-- Mindmeld on something unimportant
Again, picking fight with @yoshl #235
Claims his vote on yoshl was to gauge if anyone else would follow up, but turns out it's normal yoshl #278
= @Me not wolf, because he doesn't think I would go all involved d0 as a wolf #287
= Because he thinks I would go either full shitpost or just argue a bit for fun, admits it's gut feeling #291
-- Yo, I'm getting slightly scum vibes here
Weird interaction with @roundbox, "one day I'll understand your playstyle, not today though" #312
-- looks forced imo
Passive aggressively comments that @yoshl>@raeko must have a reason because he wouldn't shitpost #320
Calls out @yoshl on not actually attaining his "out-of-shitposting" goal #337
= @me/@yoshl not w/w, due to me getting triggered
Goal is to not be townread simply because of being super pure #346
Pressuring @yoshl about what info he's hoping to get from a post (a shitpost?) #376
-- tunnelling!?
Basically sheeping @xiz #408
Pushing @dbp for clarification on one of his earlier posts #421
> @yoshl because dbp's answer felt right tone-wise #470
Pings @manti/@wv/@raeko #470
@Celirra is ok if he's inactive early, but he forgot about @grad in his pings #472
buncha bs interactions with @dbp's shitposts #493
Argues with @grad about how he is indeed trying to give content and not sheep #520
Pings @rbox, asking if he still thinks @grad's point on @opk (trying to sheep?) is good #521
= Woo full readslist! #570
= Townlean: @cel, @rbox, @me, @wv, @dbp
= Null: @raeko, @grad, @xiz, @blind
= Scumlean: @manti, @charu, @yoshl
Wants to kill wildcards (like @raeko) #573
-- kind of like I wanted to in jtwg
> omgus vote on @xiz questioning his readslist #580
= Cares that @xiz cares that he's a new player, thinks @xiz looks bad for trying to lead town though #583
= hotreads are @xiz and @dbp wolf with @manti sk #585
tbh responded very poorly to @yoshl's belittlement and rest of the read #593
Justifies @yoshl and then @all how he might be wrong sometimes #598
"if [50%] is not something to consider idk how certain you guys have to be to consider any possibility rofl #600
-- ye boi
Claims he's counting on volume tells to be townread, and stuff, throwing in "when I roll wolf" #604
-- ewwwwww scumlean
"You're probably going to have to work pretty hard to turn the tables if you see through his play." #792
-- ??????????
"Most of the arguments to save him are meta-based, I don't know his meta and his posts were super scummy, will have to sheep if a big majority of people say he's clear" #799
prefers not being cryptic #818
Wants @WV to stop being cryptic #823-824
still has no fucking clue what @wv was getting at #892

@blind, @grad, @opk, @cel, @manti, @xiz, @me/@I/@my/@sanz, @rbox, @yoshl, @charu, @raeko/@freezin, @wv, @dbp

4) Celirra
Day 0
>Wolf (@me?) in response to saying ye to being called a wolf, but the vote didn't go through afaik #205
Shitposting about wanting to kill wolves!!!! #367
Inviting people to ask him questions #497
-- tbh scum

@blind, @grad, @opk, @cel, @manti, @xiz, @me/@I/@my/@sanz, @rbox, @yoshl, @charu, @raeko/@freezin, @wv, @dbp

5) DarkManticoreX2
Day 0
Pretending to contribute to the vg shitposting by talking about super smash bros #168
"d1 is boring, I'm going to try to catch up but it's prob a bunch of hot shit" #505-507
@xiz "Do you believe my early game activity is alignment indicative?" #508
Asks @xiz why he thinks @dbp is a better vote than him, but he figures it out #512-514
Openly admits he doesn't feel anything about anyone #522
-- That means you're anti-town, and openly expressing anti-town sentiment doesn't make you less anti-town
"I just need some content to datamine and most of today has been meh" #540
-- Bitch please I've got 2000+ words of notes here from that
fight me @charu, @charu frozen! #550-555
= @Charu is weakly his top wolf because @yoshl prompted him #610
> @Charu #619
"For real though", backing @dbp's question on why @yoshl would "expose" xiz's possible soft #729

@blind, @grad, @opk, @cel, @manti, @xiz, @me/@I/@my/@sanz, @rbox, @yoshl, @charu, @raeko/@freezin, @wv, @dbp

6) Xiz
Day 0
>dbp, for claiming sk early #231 (+ #243 for explanation)
= Not convinced @dbp is town because of his sudden tryhard posting after being pinged #405
= Manti because of low d0 postcount #406
-- tbh how are his reads so solid from the very start
= Yes @manti, your early game activity is alginment indicative #509
Comments on @manti going sexual fast with @charu
Asking to form wagons #564
> @charu because ... his post #565 was stupid #567-569
> @dbp because he realizes @charu's thought was in 2 posts #579
Calls @opk's reads list fake #578
Claims he was testing and playing @opk, then calls him town #581
-- this looks super weird to me
= Likes @yoshl (for his interactions with @opk I think), then likes him even more for not liking him #609
= Thinks @grad is scummy for calling out @opk on the nullreads thing #657
= (Summary of previous reads) #661
= Scummy: @dbp, @manti, @grad, @blind
= Town: @opk, @yoshl
3 of the 4 people he finds scummy are scumleaning him #692
> @Manti
= Top reads: #883
= Scum: @manti, Scumlean: @grad, @blind, @wv, @charu (most scum to least scum)
= Town: @opk, @dbp, @yoshl, Townlean: @rbox

@blind, @grad, @opk, @cel, @manti, @xiz, @me/@I/@my/@sanz, @rbox, @yoshl, @charu, @raeko/@freezin, @wv, @dbp

7) Sanzath
Day 0
This is me
I shitrespond to @op that I am indeed a wolf #202
>Myself "in case @cel's vote doesn't go through" #208
I call out @yoshl for being a jerk #215
My gameplan for game is lynch & nightkill wolves, win and celebrate #216 <-- Bluehint
Passive aggressively calling @Yoshl petty #218
I joke about how low iq and inability to read aren't mutually exclusive #222
-- Which by the way is an obvious fucking joke, like lern2comedy you fuckwit yoshl holy shit
-- If it isn't clear to anyone *why* this is a joke, here's a fucking rundown
-- Yoshl called me low-iq. Then he retracted that statement and called me unable to read.
-- These are both obvious insults and I was still in shitpost mode (which is where earlier the "fight me" came from)
-- So I decided to take both insults at once by saying that they're not mutually exclusive, implying I could be both stupid and bad at reading
-- If this isn't self-deprecating humour that anyone with half a brain can notice, then I don't know what fucking is
-- aka yoshl, what the fuk
I post about how he's somehow taking my non-serious posts seriously and suggest he should probably stop #224 <-- Very subtle bluehint, I guess
I go tryhard #237
I call @yoshl's sense of humour non-existent, while saying we shouldn't have fun until he's dead #238 <-- Another very subtle bluehint
I ping @charu to deliver on a world of hurt and torment #250
My last post @yoshl I think, after which he doesn't even respond #284

@blind, @grad, @opk, @cel, @manti, @xiz, @me/@I/@my/@sanz, @rbox, @yoshl, @charu, @raeko/@freezin, @wv, @dbp

8) roundbox
Day 0
yall cuckin? #57
Shitposting references to previous game I guess, #59-61
-- There might be a hidden message here
@Charu: I'll let you lynch me when I roll wolf, but that's not this game #100
-- bluuuuuuuuuuuuue
Some bullshit discussion between @charu, @dbp and @roundbox about FF6 and Chrono Trigger #101+
= Charu --> town pile, apparently #114
-- Probably a shitpost
Shitposting the Eva Congratulations video in response to something completely unrelated by @dbp #125
Bullshit @rbox/@charu/@dbp discussion has devolved to shitposting about the poker game to trigger @RBox (river, all in) #143+
@yoshl "Fakeclaiming as town is pretty garbage too, just saying" #180
-- Uhhhh I'm pretty sure I'm missing a part of this discussion
Copypasta about being an advanced memer #190
Chimes in, says thread is bumping #297
> dbp for god knows what fucking reason #299
-- No seriously what?
-- Probably to incite a wagon on dbp with xiz and charu???
> Charu #303
-- ??????????????????
Stupid memes #307
-- ????????????????????????????????????
Weird interaction with @opkiller, responds to post with "duly noted!" #313
-- Seriously. Why is he memeing with posts from previous games?
-- Is he roleplaying as himself?
"I mean I would have killed me" #331
-- Another self-reference
Kinda mindmelding with @dbp #335
u ok m8?? re @wv being mom_irl #343
"I'm town" basically @manti and @yoshl #624
> @blind as "a present for when he returns" or something #626
basically confirmed @my theory on his gimmick #701
Responds to @opk with "I'm a dumb idiot ROFL" #703
Wanted @xiz to "explain these plays in specific" #712
"gg wolf win" @xiz saying he doesn't really want to explain his plays #715
"Sounds genuine" at @xiz's progression I think #844
Calls out @blind on being scummy for leaving his earlygame shitvote on @wv, and being the only person on @wv #873
= "This feels mildly towny": @grad, @opk, @xiz, @rbox, @yoshl, @wv, @dbp

@blind, @grad, @opk, @cel, @manti, @xiz, @me/@I/@my/@sanz, @rbox, @yoshl, @charu, @raeko/@freezin, @wv, @dbp

9) Yoshl
Day 0
(awoo) #6
= Hot reads: @dbp is a wolf, @blindreper is the serial killer #20
AAAAAA birds #56
Acts like an asshole re. @me and @opk's shitposting #214
Thinks @I think he's a jerk for the wrong reason (stating mindset vs. tone of the post) and congratulates me on my petty belief #217
Thinks @I can't read or some shit #220
Responds to @my self-deprecating joke #223
-- I'm not arguing semantics. Arguing semantics is arguing about what words mean.
-- I was both remarking on how you retracted your statement to give another one, when you could have just kept both up.
-- I wasn't actually instigating a fight initially (fight me is a joke coming from me, 100% of the time)
-- But obviously you're trying to trigger me with how you're responding.
-- What the fuck? I said they're not mutually exclusive, aka they can both exist at once.
-- I was not arguing that they weren't related, quite the opposite in fact.
-- Yeah, I decided purposefully not to argue about my iq or stupid petty shit like that, you asshat.
-- Your "burn" is the furthest thing that could be from a burn, given the current situation.
Doesn't see what's wrong with taking shitposts seriously #225
-- Hey guys look I'm a retard!!! Just kidding I was just pretending!!!!
Acts like he's better than anyone who's been shitposting (but actually only @me and @opk) #228
Pretends he's actually moving the game in a positive direction by triggering @me #232
-- What the fuck is wrong with this dude lmao
= Xiz top town read for not getting into shit I guess
Reponds to @my post telling him to shut the fuck up #251
-- ????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
= Hasn't actually bothered to get any reads on me from that interaction #259
Only thing from @me is "an attempt at trying to refute insults" and not working on the game, therefore everything he's said "still stands strong". + Some more trying to trigger me for absolutely no reason, yay #270
-- He doesn't actually proofread, it looks like. Also, ???????????????????????????
His opinion of me is somewhere around haku, which I guess is still insult/trigger territory? #277
-- Why???
> Raeko #310
-- ?????????????????????
= (In response do @dbp) thinks @I'm kind of an idiot, is fine with @opk, baiting me was a strat to get out of shitposting phase, and voted @raeko to "round out the votes tbh" #329
-- uhh ok, nice bullshit intellectual response I guess
Regularly engages in stupid arguments and has been restraining himself from calling @me outright stupid #332
-- Yeah, ok, so he's outright manipulating me. Cooooool.
= Null on @me (anger felt real), potential scumlean on @op if he doesn't do actual work #336
-- Also yoshl is fucking delusional lol
Finally acknowledges that I was mad because he called us cringey (without saying it wasn't about iq) #338
Dropping the pressure on @me and pressuring @Raeko are 2 unrelated things. Doesn't care about not lynching wolves #357
Claims his allcaps post was a simple remark @blind #383
= Thinks @blind reaacted way too hard to his remark #389
Prompts @manti who got nothing from the thread if he thinks @charu is top wolf #563
Belitting @opk like he belittled @me, basically. calls his reaction to @xiz omgus and surface level attempts at analysis #586
= Also thinks roundbox will be his vote based on postcount vs content #586
Claims @opk has been super gung ho about SK, "correct me if I'm wrong" #588
-- I mean, you're probably wrong? He's just assuming the 50%, which isn't that much of a stretch tbh
= Doesn't feel good about @xiz asking for wagons #599
= Reads @opk newbie town for how he reacted to @xiz putting some pressure on him ("everyone's attacking me") #599
Explains condescendingly @opk his stance on reads and surface-level reads and shit #602
Is super confused by @opk's statement about the 50% SK, thinks @opk is saying that everyone else is talking about it #605
-- jeeeeesus christ lmao, wrong wrong wrong, guess we know who has bad reading comprehension rofl
= Doesn't like @xiz because @xiz likes him #611
> @Roundbox for pressure #lynchallliars #613
Noted that @manti super softly defended @rbox, also pinged @me for lurking for a while #669
= @rbox not scum #704

@blind, @grad, @opk, @cel, @manti, @xiz, @me/@I/@my/@sanz, @rbox, @yoshl, @charu, @raeko/@freezin, @wv, @dbp

10) Charu
Day 0
"Afraid" of being murdered by @dbp #47
Bird scared shitposts #49
Some bullshit discussion between @charu, @dbp and @roundbox about FF6 and Chrono Trigger #101+
Bullshit @rbox/@charu/@dbp discussion has devolved to shitposting about the poker game to trigger @RBox (river, all in) #143+
-- How the fuck does charu know about the rbox poker memes?
Fully expecting @dbp to murder him #157
= Xiz townlean, because mindmelding probably #253
Says Yoshl @going up on @me is expected, but also curious, since there's no spicy info to get out of me since the subject isn't even game-related #255+256
"River" #304
-- Once again, somehow knows about this, what the fuuuuuck
Stopped thinking @dbp is going to murder him #324
Wonders about @wv's question about the d0 dynamic, thinks "on edge" isn't the correct term #434
= Probably shitpost, but @manti not reading d0 = wolf #515
Calls out @Raeko's first post as being zzz-worthy #535
= Teasing @manti and calling him a lazy wolf with his bird posts #549
Asks @xiz what kind of wagon he's going for, then states he'd go for @raeko but that wouldn't give much info #565-566
Calls out @opk's wording on his @raeko nullread and "she doesn't provide much by staying alive" #572
Seems to doubt something about @xiz claiming he played @opk #582
Critiques @opk for not not thinking that talking about SK so early was weird #595
... Then immediately defends @opk #596
Tells @opk that talking about SK in first phase probably isn't helpful #601
joins @yoshl on the @rbox miniwagon #615
Totally unfazed by @manti's vote on him #622
Trying to get @rbox to talk, doesn't seem to understand the gimmick #625-632
double BINGO! @opk's "@raeko not my wolfpick" #653
Calls out @xiz on bullying @grad, and is super polite about it #685
Explains that @xiz is usually blunt and center-stage, but rarely bullies #705
-- Throwing shade?
Posting about @rbox ignoring "these cuties" #720
-- Are these cuties the dragon images instead of the birbs?
= Thinks @rbox is ???? #746
Prods @wv to know who his next-best lynch would be after @xiz #778
Asking @dbp how tilted he is #846
alert danger! shitposts @rbox #855
= Super spicy @wv/@opk wolfteam guess #878
Completely misreading the @wv/@opk situation #897
> @wv as a reaction test for @opk/@wv probably #898

@blind, @grad, @opk, @cel, @manti, @xiz, @me/@I/@my/@sanz, @rbox, @yoshl, @charu, @raeko/@freezin, @wv, @dbp

11) mellonxcollie / freezinice
Day 0
Finally pops in, comments on a few posts and leaves because too nerdy #532
-- Very, very low investment if that's as far as she got
Kinda sheeping(?) @dbp on his point that @xiz seems ungenuine with discrediting people with words like "disappointing" #771
But still thinks the bullying(?) fits @xiz's personality #771
Asks @grad how she's repeating stuff that's already been said #804
= Doesn't think @cel asking to be questioned is scummy #808

@blind, @grad, @opk, @cel, @manti, @xiz, @me/@I/@my/@sanz, @rbox, @yoshl, @charu, @raeko/@freezin, @wv, @dbp

12) Wayward Vagabond
Day 0
Shitpost calling @celirra a jerk for ignoring the content of his previous post #339
Refutes @blind's shitvote because blind doesn't live near him #339
Kinda defending-ish @opk for his reaction to pressure? #339
Feels the game is super serious compared to other d0s, wonders if it's because of @yoshl or something else #427
Wants to know if @manti switches things up or if he sticks to one thing #429
-- Probably something I'd ask about any player tbh
Admits he thought @dbp was legit afraid of @charu/@xiz because of previous games #447
Mentions @opk that it's weird that he left @grad and @cel out of the inactives he pinged #471
Commented on the @manti/@charu sexual interaction #556
Not sure if @opk entertaining SK and being aggressive about it is serious or weak deflection #603
Responds to @grad that @opk is probably basing his reads on inactives (@grad, @raeko and @cel) on previous games #647
Poked @xiz for his thoughts on @dbp
Thoughts on @xiz being a bad lynch but not seeing any better lynches #777
= Next-best lynch after @xiz would be @opk because of his contemplation on SK #782-786
= Then the whole @opk/@xiz masons theory happens (resolved mostly with #836)
Pokes @grad for his thoughts on @dbp #798
Asks @raeko how @grad knows that she's posting that way #810-812
-- why ask her instead of @grad?
-- Tbh I'm kinda sheeping this line of thought because yeah, @grad's post (#793) had a ton of confidence
> @manti mostly as pressure I think #822
Saving face? @yoshl with "believing and knowing are two different things #852
"alright yeah I get you" @grad's explanation of how he understands @raeko's meta #877
-- Kinda weird that he originally asked @raeko and then was content with @grad's answer too

@blind, @grad, @opk, @cel, @manti, @xiz, @me/@I/@my/@sanz, @rbox, @yoshl, @charu, @raeko/@freezin, @wv, @dbp

13) DaBackPack
Day 0
Shitclaims SK I guess #36
>Xiz as a shitvote probably #37
Hard-clamming (sic) detective #44
Then goes on to shitpost a bunch of RP up until he says that "you guys suck" #54
Some bullshit discussion between @charu, @dbp and @roundbox about FF6 and Chrono Trigger #101+
Bullshit @rbox/@charu/@dbp discussion has devolved to shitposting about the poker game to trigger @RBox (river, all in) #143+
Asks @yoshl why he's voting @raeko despite her not being present #316
Expands that it's also about how @yoshl was super hard on @me/@opk and then disarmed by calling me haku-like and switching to someone else #318
= Theory about @yoshl/@sanz or @yoshl/@opk being wolf partners because of potential bussing happening earlier #321
Asks questions @yoshl about @me and @opk, and why he voted an inactive #322
Still going to murder @charu #325
Asks @opk for his thoughts on @yoshl's alignment #328
= More concerned about why @yoshl dropped the argument so easily #334
= Again, concerned that @yoshl dropped the stuff so easily #340
Thinks @opk's point about @me being triggered is good as it helps to determine if @me/@yoshl was scripted #340
= Thinks @WV's kinda funny as if he's @opk's mom or something #341
= @Yoshl is human putting pressure on (??) (town in @my case) is the most likely explanation, but wondering if there are more sinister reasons for switching convo #355
Shitposting, but "secretly still afraid" that @charu thinks he's wolf #362
= Super explicitly explains @opk his thoughts on @yoshl vs @me/@opk #441
Super explicitly explains his shitpost on being afraid of @charu/@xiz #445
"Would I do this as wolf???" #450
-- wifom??! But probably not
Spends straight 2 pages shitposting parsing bs #475+
> @Charu shitvote because of shitpost analysis #501
= (Kinda) sheeping @yoshl on intention to vote @rbox based on postcount and content #592
> @xiz, something feels off (for calling @grad scummy) #660
= Specifically, @xiz feels off for being so matter-of-fact, etc #666
= Doesn't think @xiz looks genuine for "feigning emotional investment" etc #680
Kinda??? Sheeping @grad with the "condescending" on @xiz #682
-- so polite
Calls BULL FUCKING SHIT on @xiz claiming he was trying something new #711
not seeing anything from @xiz iso #764
calling @xiz condescending and cryptic and it's counterproductive and wasting our time, "if you are town, help us help you" #766
-- This post kind of smells, actually
Politely telling xiz to start being constructive #769
Not comfortable with the situation because of the lack of information on @xiz's alignment, despite his antitown behaviour #770
-- Ummm
Pokes @manti and @rbox for thoughts on @xiz #775
"this is really weird" #796
-- Doesn't at all understand what @wv thought he knew (@xiz and @opk masons together)
Explains paper (in reference @xiz) that humans trusted intelligent agents more if they gave reason, even if it was a bullshit nonsensical reason #813
Also confused by @wv not wanting to lynch a scumlean #834
Wants to solve @xiz but he's being uncooperative #835
Getting tilted @rbox (didn't notice the gimmick) and @xiz (not cooperating probably) #839
wants @xiz to contribute (obviously) #860

There's a few weird things in there, feel free to ask about anything

[sanzath]

Re: TWG CLXX Anything but Nekopara Game Thread

I'm a little confused here --- are these actually your notes from D0? Because you have info from blind's flip in there and other stuff

They are not my actual notes, they are me taking my notes, looking at interactions between the players, and analyzing them with the info I now know

[DaBackpack]

Re: TWG CLXX Anything but Nekopara Game Thread

honestly if you want you can just dump your entire txt of your notes here

I don't care if they're wrong, but seeing your actual, unfiltered thoughts to yourself would be really useful

like literally, if you just dump your notes in this thread it would look really good for you, even if there's no formatting at all

it should take like 2 mins

[DaBackpack]

Re: TWG CLXX Anything but Nekopara Game Thread

honestly if you want you can just dump your entire txt of your notes here

I don't care if they're wrong, but seeing your actual, unfiltered thoughts to yourself would be really useful

[DaBackpack]

Re: TWG CLXX Anything but Nekopara Game Thread

I've only got notes for d0, and even then they only cover most of d0 (up to post #900 out of 1000 or so), but I'll start with this anyway before going into ISOs, since my notes capture interactions more than ISOs do.

Starting with blind:

First post was a shitvote on gradiant (town), which he moved to a shitvote on wv (red). Probably not much to get here, since it's such shit and it's so early into the game.



Soft defense of raeko, probably so yoshl gets his vote off of her



Throws some shade on raeko after her first few posts, but not enough to go anywhere with it. I'm actually seeing some frustration from blind since his wolf partner manages to be Not Great™ from the very start. They probably go on to have a nice long conversation about activity level in wolfchat.





After reading xiz as scum really hard, he goes on to ask wv about his position on xiz, in an effort to push his teammate towards a firmer scum read on a good lynch, which leads us to the following post:



If I had to guess, wolfchat looked something like: "Hey you should scumlean xiz, but be uncertain about it, it'll make you look good". Both dbp and yoshl ended up giving wv shit for it - probably not the intended effect, unless blind really wanted to bus both of his partners.

Raeko (Freezin's slot):

She actually does basically nothing tbh

Her first post is basically nothing, and her leaving thread after so few posts because it was too nerdy shows a really low investment in the game



The same feigned uncertainty as wv, but with a little more credibility instead of it just being "well he isn't 100% so I don't wanna lynch him"



Going for some sweet sweet town cred?

WV:

This is probably the most suspicious interaction initiated by wv. Why does he ask raeko to explain grad's reasoning? If it was to know why grad knew, he would have asked grad himself. If it was to get specifically raeko's opinion on the matter, then the following:



is also weird, because wv just gladly accepts grad's answer, whereas raeko was the person he'd originally asked.
Overall, I feel like wv asked raeko the question so he wouldn't have absolutely no interactions with her before EoD, making the interaction between the two look weird and scripted.

That's as far as my notes go, I could still pick out interactions with other players but I'll leave that for my ISOs.

I'm a little confused here --- are these actually your notes from D0? Because you have info from blind's flip in there and other stuff

[DaBackpack]

Re: TWG CLXX Anything but Nekopara Game Thread

Not doing long analysis or analyzing posts on breaks or lunch. I'll be off in a couple of hours.

Stop being so impatient.

lick my butthole

[FreezinIce]

Re: TWG CLXX Anything but Nekopara Game Thread

three people are on the chopping block in LYLO and none of them are doing anything which is making me kinda sad

Not doing long analysis or analyzing posts on breaks or lunch. I'll be off in a couple of hours.

Stop being so impatient.

[sanzath]

Re: TWG CLXX Anything but Nekopara Game Thread

three people are on the chopping block in LYLO and none of them are doing anything which is making me kinda sad

Long posts with analysis are very time-consuming to write,

I'm going to go make supper then do an ISO on freezin probably, unless you want my thoughts on WV first

[sanzath]

Re: TWG CLXX Anything but Nekopara Game Thread

I've only got notes for d0, and even then they only cover most of d0 (up to post #900 out of 1000 or so), but I'll start with this anyway before going into ISOs, since my notes capture interactions more than ISOs do.

Starting with blind:

I almost always vote someone out of the gate. I wouldn't read into it too much.

Anyways, I'm going with WV because he didn't invite me to his lit af party.

First post was a shitvote on gradiant (town), which he moved to a shitvote on wv (red). Probably not much to get here, since it's such shit and it's so early into the game.

yoshl why are you voting for raeko now when she's not even present

Easy target.

Soft defense of raeko, probably so yoshl gets his vote off of her

I had to google what that was lol

Well, SAME TO YOU! there was hardly any content to comment on within those first 10 pages

Ya didn't throw punches though! Ya only commented about the very first vote being not serious!

Reeeeerrrrrrrrr!!!

"Imma look like im doing stuff, but I'm just kinda repeating shit."

Throws some shade on raeko after her first few posts, but not enough to go anywhere with it. I'm actually seeing some frustration from blind since his wolf partner manages to be Not Great™ from the very start. They probably go on to have a nice long conversation about activity level in wolfchat.

How should you not be? You want to kill everyone but two people besides yourself. That's nor scummy at all....

You're pushing for shit to happen without pushing.

It's like you wanna look important without earning that position.

i've already mentioned my thoughts on xiz. i don't like him as a lynch but he's the best candidate. he isn't really playing the same compared to the last wolf game i played with him. but dbp's post about being easily swayed has me edgy about him.

You don't like the lynch. Is it because you think he's town?

If he's the best candidate, do you think he's scum?

I don't see what you're leaning.

After reading xiz as scum really hard, he goes on to ask wv about his position on xiz, in an effort to push his teammate towards a firmer scum read on a good lynch, which leads us to the following post:

i don't like the lynch because i'm not entirely sure he's scum

i guess scum lean would be what i have xiz as

If I had to guess, wolfchat looked something like: "Hey you should scumlean xiz, but be uncertain about it, it'll make you look good". Both dbp and yoshl ended up giving wv shit for it - probably not the intended effect, unless blind really wanted to bus both of his partners.

Raeko (Freezin's slot):

She actually does basically nothing tbh

Her first post is basically nothing, and her leaving thread after so few posts because it was too nerdy shows a really low investment in the game

Sorry I got pulled away earlier I'm pretty much fully caught up

Does anybody care to explain why everyone is so sure about Xiz? I think these things look pretty bad


what DBP mentions in this post really stuck out to me while reading. reminded me of how Lar plays as a wolf by openly discrediting other people's opinions when they are on the right track


But I still see it within Xiz's personality and play style to be a bit aggressive in this way? I'm not sure

The same feigned uncertainty as wv, but with a little more credibility instead of it just being "well he isn't 100% so I don't wanna lynch him"

if we're at the point where we are talking openly, even vaguely, in the thread... any competent wolf team has it figured out. And the more we talk about things the more they know. that's how I feel about that

Going for some sweet sweet town cred?

WV:

raeko how does gradient know you were going to post the way you are

Other than that, mellon's playing exactly how I thought she would when I saw she was a possible replacement. Barely posting and only coming in to make like one or two posts about stuff that was already said to look like she's participating. Really gross

because the way he worded this is really sketchy

It's a meta read. he assumes just because I have a reputation for not posting a lot. The way I see it, many people on FFR who have high TWG post counts clutter the thread with tons of shit posts, jokes, or single points that could be condensed into one post. That's just not my play style and I prefer to contribute when I have something to say *shrug*

This is probably the most suspicious interaction initiated by wv. Why does he ask raeko to explain grad's reasoning? If it was to know why grad knew, he would have asked grad himself. If it was to get specifically raeko's opinion on the matter, then the following:

And all of that is why I made that post WV. Because she does this every game. I always look at players lists when I join games because that's how I figure out if I'll actually have fun playing or not. When I see mellon playing or as a replacement, I know that either I will have to deal with or might have to deal with somebody barely posting, then maybe coming in to make a couple posts that are super noncommital or repeating what's already been said to look they're helping, and then if people complain about their activity level they get 'well i'm busy sorry'.

alright yeah i get you

is also weird, because wv just gladly accepts grad's answer, whereas raeko was the person he'd originally asked.
Overall, I feel like wv asked raeko the question so he wouldn't have absolutely no interactions with her before EoD, making the interaction between the two look weird and scripted.

That's as far as my notes go, I could still pick out interactions with other players but I'll leave that for my ISOs.

[DaBackpack]

Re: TWG CLXX Anything but Nekopara Game Thread

three people are on the chopping block in LYLO and none of them are doing anything which is making me kinda sad

[DaBackpack]

Re: TWG CLXX Anything but Nekopara Game Thread

To be sure, blind flipping godfather confirmed the setup even before the 2 kills during the night did

I'm saying that you tinfoiling on me before blind's flip looks good for you