TWG CLXVII Game Thread How Was Awakening Reviewed

[Charu]

Re: TWG CLXVII Game Thread How Was Awakening Reviewed

I am positively not reading 2,500 posts, screw you all.

[Charu]

Re: TWG CLXVII Game Thread How Was Awakening Reviewed

Replacement

If I replace in, consider yourself all baddo's.

You're all baddo

[DaBackpack]

Re: TWG CLXVII Game Thread How Was Awakening Reviewed

Dbp can you give me a tl;dr reads list

Tokzic town
WV prolly town based on recent inquisitiveness
Manti prolly town bc claim
Celirra is probably a wolf mechanically here
Tilocco is town except for the circumstances that he's still alive today

rest are ??? at the moment (i.e. I haven't been paying attention to them/you)

I had MML as scum early on in the game but he turned that around for me

[DarkManticoreX2]

Re: TWG CLXVII Game Thread How Was Awakening Reviewed

In regards to whether or not manti can be trusted, honestly I always have had my doubts about him, and I think I've been pretty vocal in regards to that. I'm curious who else he roleblocked in the past night phases still.

I do want to hear a bit more in regards to this; I think it's consistent enough? I admittedly don't remember finding much regarding him specifically incriminating me at any point, but if he did in the past then it is consistent in his thinking that he would roleblock DBP and myself.

I'm not going to get into the specifics of how my role works because of sunfan's warning in the OP. I can share my end targets however.

On night 1 it was freezin and soundwave

On night 2 it was blind and WV

[MixMasterLar]

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Charu has replaced Tokzic effective immediately

Holy fucking shit Charu's here.
I wonder if he's read any of the thread and has an idea of what's going on.

[Xiz]

Re: TWG CLXVII Game Thread How Was Awakening Reviewed

Dbp can you give me a tl;dr reads list

[DaBackpack]

Re: TWG CLXVII Game Thread How Was Awakening Reviewed

Manti please tell us what your previous night actions were

[Xiz]

Re: TWG CLXVII Game Thread How Was Awakening Reviewed

Thank god

[DaBackpack]

Re: TWG CLXVII Game Thread How Was Awakening Reviewed

Charu has replaced Tokzic effective immediately

hi charu

[the sun fan]

Re: TWG CLXVII Game Thread How Was Awakening Reviewed

Charu has replaced Tokzic effective immediately

[DaBackpack]

Re: TWG CLXVII Game Thread How Was Awakening Reviewed

there are two things weighing on my mind right now

1) I don't think Manti is lying about his role, but it's possible that -some other action in the night- caused the nightkill to fail --- doctor save, etc
2) He could be lying about his alignment --- i.e. he's really a roleblocker as he said but he is on the wolf team (or third party).

I can't resolve the first point, I don't even know if I was actually roleblocked because I didn't do anything (I'm vanilla)

The second point I can try to discern, if Manti had reason "as town" to roleblock Celirra and I

obviously my EoD was trash so it's natural that I'd be a target, but what remains is for me to see what Manti thought of Celirra over someone else

[Wayward Vagabond]

Re: TWG CLXVII Game Thread How Was Awakening Reviewed

Get use to it every game you ever play with him

WELP

[inDheart]

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In regards to me lurking and being largely inactive, I've been racking my brain around whether or not Manti can be trusted, because that is my priority here above all else; I'd much rather not have another mislynch because at this point, at best we can only have two more mislynches before we lose; at worst, if there is 3P, then it could be as grave as having only one more mislynch before we lose, under this:

10 right now
mislynch -1 = 9
NK:
wolf -1
SK -1
7 by start of next day
3 wolves 1 sk
very difficult for town to win unless we roleblock well

That's more just why I'm really trying to figure this out hard right now and I'm a bit worried of haphazardly posting, because if Manti is to be trusted with this vote, then there is mathematically a 50% chance that we're in a bad spot to win, assuming there's equal odds of me or DBP being lynched.

I have a suggestion for what it's worth:
no lynch (is this how this works? basically no lynch tonight)
if there is no 3p, then we don't actually have to lynch; thus is the beauty of even numbers.

10 now
no lynch
nk -1
9 for next day phase
1 mislynch permissible assuming no PR intervention (2 mislynches = 3w 2t)

else:
10 now
lynch -1
nk -1
8 for next day phase
1 mislynch permissible assuming no PR intervention (2 mislynches = 3w 1t; with 1 mislynch it would be 3w 3t, or 2w 2t, or so on, which I believe means town still has a chance? if #t = #w means a loss for town, then I actually think it might be more beneficial to hold off tonight at no harm? unless we have no doubt)

please correct me if any of this could be incorrect; I do know that even #'s permit a no-lynch anyways I believe, even if my reasoning is incorrect, in which case oops, and please clarify if I am wrong

This way we get more info from a NK potentially before we make a risky vote between two, myself and DBP, because I don't think any of us are confident of either of us being town OR wolf.

Also for what it's worth, don't hammer anyone tonight; I think insta'ing anyone right now is a bad call, so please be careful with actually dropping the hard votes.

if cel is a wolf let this be known as a slip that there's info the wolves can't even account for

(noting the SK assumption)

[Wayward Vagabond]

Re: TWG CLXVII Game Thread How Was Awakening Reviewed

You should read my posts and look at my voting history for the day. You should be able to answer that for yourself.

but i want you to answer

[DaBackpack]

Re: TWG CLXVII Game Thread How Was Awakening Reviewed

I have no particular reason to doubt Manti outside of its convenience