TWG CXXXIX (139) - Intro to Bastard++ [Game Thread]

[roundbox]

Re: TWG CXXXIX (139) - Intro to Bastard++ [Game Thread]

final votecounts - an insta has been reached

Votes from post 1 to post 1532
Night in 0:02:58
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• Votes -- Lynch -- Voters
• 8 -- MrPopadopalis25 -- j-rodd123 (161), storn42 (49), _Zenith_ (235), AragakiAyase (162), DaBackpack (216), Charles Claythorne (85), Charu (117), Nighthawk252 (88)
• 3 -- Charles Claythorne -- MrPopadopalis25 (90), Funnygurl555 (86), freakysnots (23)
• 1 -- unvote -- lurker (102)
• 1 -- not voting -- roundbox (4)

:00 good :01 bad

Quoting this for my mobile convenience

[Charles Claythorne]

Re: TWG CXXXIX (139) - Intro to Bastard++ [Game Thread]

Hey Mashi in the last two TWGs we played together how many times did you read me correctly
right
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If you're referring to the two on LLF, I waffled on you in the first Festival Game until I finally decided you were Human, which I wasn't able to post about since I died before I could.

Regardless, saying I'm bad at reading you in a sample size of 2 games isn't going to convince me that I'm wrong. I don't understand why you're being so over-defensive at me even mentioning being suspicious of you.

[Charles Claythorne]

Re: TWG CXXXIX (139) - Intro to Bastard++ [Game Thread]

Mashi / roundbox could also be possible
Idk if there's a third but they'd probably be more hidden

But if my guess on charu is right then he needs to die ASAP

Awaiting feedback tho

Are you suspicious of me based on POE or do you have reasoning?

[Funnygurl555]

Re: TWG CXXXIX (139) - Intro to Bastard++ [Game Thread]

If you're referring to the two on LLF, I waffled on you in the first Festival Game until I finally decided you were Human, which I wasn't able to post about since I died before I could.

Regardless, saying I'm bad at reading you in a sample size of 2 games isn't going to convince me that I'm wrong. I don't understand why you're being so over-defensive at me even mentioning being suspicious of you.

i still think ur wrong
i think I'm just afraid of town losing if i get mislynched
i unno. should prolly back off of the thread anyway im fully aware that im over reacting and I'm just letting myself GO

see you guys later

[Charles Claythorne]

Re: TWG CXXXIX (139) - Intro to Bastard++ [Game Thread]

wait no dont go i wanted to ask you a question

[Funnygurl555]

Re: TWG CXXXIX (139) - Intro to Bastard++ [Game Thread]

yes mashi

[Charles Claythorne]

Re: TWG CXXXIX (139) - Intro to Bastard++ [Game Thread]

What prompted you to read the possible Roles in the setup as late as you did this game? That is, when you realized that there wasn't a Cop in the game.

[Nighthawk252]

Re: TWG CXXXIX (139) - Intro to Bastard++ [Game Thread]

We're probably not dealing with a SK. AA wasn't an obvious nightkill choice, so it's unlikely that the wolves and the SK both hit him. Storn was probably roleblocked.

We could check if Freakysnots got converted by putting him at L-1.

That said, Zenith is your best lynch today and was your best lynch yesterday. This isn't going away. You're either losing a ml due to me voting against Zenith every phase or you're using an ml by killing off Zenith. You'd probably rather lose that ml now.

[DaBackpack]

Re: TWG CXXXIX (139) - Intro to Bastard++ [Game Thread]

I thought of something crazy just now

What if mashi is a stalker and fg is a cult leader? That kinda makes all these interactions make sense.

#tinfoil

@mashi what I've described, plus yiur emphasis on finding the setup in early day is a wolf tell
I have a strong gut feeling on you now but I'm open to reasoning from others

[Funnygurl555]

Re: TWG CXXXIX (139) - Intro to Bastard++ [Game Thread]

What prompted you to read the possible Roles in the setup as late as you did this game? That is, when you realized that there wasn't a Cop in the game.

I realized that this was mafia and not werewolf and there prolly wasn't a seer so I was softing a non existent role
was gonna make sure if there was a cop or something else
don't think I played with an inspector before

[Funnygurl555]

Re: TWG CXXXIX (139) - Intro to Bastard++ [Game Thread]

And now pce

[DaBackpack]

Re: TWG CXXXIX (139) - Intro to Bastard++ [Game Thread]

I'd make quotes but too hard on mobile

FG was defensive because CL
Mashi is insistent today after being suspicious yesterday because he checked her during the night

Mashi is covering for roundbox and charu?

I mean I don't want to fall into confirmation bias so I won't stick strongly to this bit I think it resolves my questions

[DaBackpack]

Re: TWG CXXXIX (139) - Intro to Bastard++ [Game Thread]

Maybe I'm being dumb and falling into a dangerous trap but I would like feedback on things

[Charles Claythorne]

Re: TWG CXXXIX (139) - Intro to Bastard++ [Game Thread]

I thought of something crazy just now

What if mashi is a stalker and fg is a cult leader? That kinda makes all these interactions make sense.

#tinfoil

@mashi what I've described, plus yiur emphasis on finding the setup in early day is a wolf tell
I have a strong gut feeling on you now but I'm open to reasoning from others

Why wouldn't you want information on the setup early? I don't see how that's anything beyond a null tell. Wolves start off with more information than we do, so the quicker we figure Roles out, the quicker we reach equity of information. By the time storn42 had claimed, Wolves should have already realized that there was a 0T Roll.

I realized that this was mafia and not werewolf and there prolly wasn't a seer so I was softing a non existent role
was gonna make sure if there was a cop or something else
don't think I played with an inspector before

Were you expecting people to legitimately believe you were soft claiming? How did you realize this was a Mafia and not a TWG? What made you believe people would think your soft wasn't true just because you were claiming Seer rather than Cop, when they're thematic terminology for the same Role?

[DaBackpack]

Re: TWG CXXXIX (139) - Intro to Bastard++ [Game Thread]

@mashi it's more of "why" you posted it

Wolves don't want to have to make reads and player analysis (dangerous) so they focus on game setup in order to appear useful (safe)

You're right in that by itself it's a null tell. We need to take your other contributions into account.

You did have a read on FG but I'm starting to consider that antitown/antitown instead of town/antitown

I'll sleep on it and see how I feel tomorrow