TWG CXXXIX (139) - Intro to Bastard++ [Game Thread]

[Charles Claythorne]

Re: TWG CXXXIX (139) - Intro to Bastard++ [Game Thread]

I'm not suspecting you for no reason Mashi jeez you've just ignored everything I said about you

Perhaps I missed it somewhere, but here is every post in the topic where you've mentioned me:

Yeah those are more the type of posts that I was expecting him to make since Page 1, and his subsequent posts don't seem all that bad either. The fact that he waited so long to post normally does make me believe that he's up to something though =/




hahahaha mashi isn't caught up what a scrub

also mashi isn't a wolf plop you're such a hater
i hope mashi is the CULT LEADER so he can convert you to the POWER OF LOVE

not enough info yo

waiting on mashi + freakysnots + storn to post more. don't have enough on plop tbh
townreading dbp again but i feel like everyone would here

Reads list

i'd be fine with charu or an nk tbh
like mayybe mashi or freakysnots, mayyyyyyybe zenith, but yeah

:')

mashi

im gonna keep my vote on mashi so if anyone wants to swing that direction weeeeeeeeeeeee

i wouldn't mind a zenith lynch though. if zenith doesn't die now then i want nighthawk dead

i guess i don't suspect mashi as much as i did before because there's no connection between the two

heellllllpppp who do we lynch

ah well guess i can't out my woof buddy mashi

mashi

i don't think mashi would go for charu here and not be skeptical of storn's claim

Hm people who haven't claimed are DBP you roundbox charu mashi

I'm losing confidence in my town read on DBP, but I still don't think he should die. He has projected town really well. I really don't think he's a wolf; he's probably a 3rd party without a death wish if he's not a town

I know you didn't get what I meant when I didn't lIke your voting patterns ar EOD, but you and storn were jumping from wagon to wagon and landed on someone who wasn't anti town, so I don't like you as much either. You could be a wolf tbh. Have no idea who your partner is though; maybe mashi

Lol hi roundbox

I don't like Mashi. I just don't. Something weird about how he has been playing this game as if it were our typical two faction vanilla game. That's the vibe I got from his reads list anyway.

I don't like Charu either. The only explanation I can get for his play is thst he's a jester (much more unlikely now), a PR (also more unlikely) or third party/wolf. Though the fact that he made a legit attempt at projecting town 20 or so pages ago makes me think he doesn't want to die... yeah hes prolly not a jester lol

I'm down for seeing Mashi or Charu go today

mashi

nah im not distancing from mashi he's just a big meanie pants

also I don't wanna see zenith dje today after this flip

kill mashi watch him roll wolf I dare you

Hey Mashi in the last two TWGs we played together how many times did you read me correctly
right
0

yes mashi

freakysnots no we wanted to play with you

also thanks for noticing that mashi has been WEIRD.

also just slept well after a week of freaking anxiety keeping me freaking up and I feel glorious

I'm already pissy for some reason and this is gonna throw me off the edge if i stay in the thead longer so listen here

There is no reason I'd act the way i did if my win con depended on my survival in that way

You're gonna kill Mashi or Charu because a wolf and third party are likely in that group. You're not gonna let them get away with a lynch on me

You're just

Not

And for God's sakes

Stop mislynching me in TWGs.

DBP stop thinking you're right you're not right
also i'm not mafia omfg who are my woof buddies

Mashi
charu
wow

No there's no way I'm a wolf here

like my vote is *on* mashi

I'm not suspecting you for no reason Mashi jeez you've just ignored everything I said about you

The only semblance of reasoning I've seen from you to describe your suspicion of me is that you basically think my 'posting is weird,' which is pretty weak reasoning, as well as (in my opinion) incredibly artificial. If I missed your accusatory post, I would appreciate you pointing it out to me, because as far as I'm aware, you have no legitimate reason for suspecting me.

[Charles Claythorne]

Re: TWG CXXXIX (139) - Intro to Bastard++ [Game Thread]

I know Mashi, I've just been frustrated these past few games for being talked out of strong convictions of mine by the wolves and I'm trying to work on that (looking back that wasn't a good thing to say)

the fact of the matter is that in the unclear pool there is the potential for a lot of antitown

I think we can still win but basically we need to get it right today

At this point there's probably 3~5 antitown, one of which are likely converted cultists in the claims pool. Have you considered any wolf teams at this stage? I think the pool is small enough that we can look at interactions (for wolves)

And actually looking at interactions is probably going to be very effective in coming days

If FG flips wolf, who would you look at next mashi?

Okay, fair enough about that. If you're really so intent on Funnygurl being Cult Leader though, shouldn't you want her lynched over someone you suspect is a Wolf?

If she flips Wolf, I think roundbox is the nicest Partner for her. It's as if she's completely ignored him this Phase when there's little evidence in his favor aside from early game posting from choof, which wasn't strong evidence anyway. Charu might be a potential Partner as well; despite her declaration of suspicion on him, she's more intent on lynching me, so it's not as if she's strongly bussing him. I think Funnygurl-roundbox makes more sense though.

[Funnygurl555]

Re: TWG CXXXIX (139) - Intro to Bastard++ [Game Thread]

But Mashi that's how I started not liking you anyway
and the fact that you were so quick to change opinions of me played a role as well because *that* looked artificial
but I mean yeah

also @lurker I tried being funny oh well

[Funnygurl555]

Re: TWG CXXXIX (139) - Intro to Bastard++ [Game Thread]

I'm not CL or wolf partners with roundbox this game is frustrating me so much
Of course I wouldn't mention roundbox
he hasn't said anything
smh

[Charles Claythorne]

Re: TWG CXXXIX (139) - Intro to Bastard++ [Game Thread]

There can only be at best two town-aligned players from the unclear pool

more realistically there is only one out of the 6.

Where are you getting at most 2 Human aligned Players from?

Of the pool of 6, there's one confirmed Doctor, so the Roles of the remaining 5 are determined based on the letter Roles. If we take 0T and assume 2S, that leaves 7 letters left (with at least 2J required); 4C and 3J gives us 3 Vanillagers + Cult Leader + Jester (the second Jester, Chariplop, would be dead), something like 3K, 2J, 2C gives us 3 Vanillagers + 1-shot Bulletproof Serial Killer + Weak Cult Leader. I don't know a quick way to calculate probabilities, but I would guess there's at least 3 Human-aligned Players among the 6.

[Charles Claythorne]

Re: TWG CXXXIX (139) - Intro to Bastard++ [Game Thread]

But Mashi that's how I started not liking you anyway
and the fact that you were so quick to change opinions of me played a role as well because *that* looked artificial
but I mean yeah

also @lurker I tried being funny oh well

You said I was ignoring your reasoning for being suspicious of me, but me playing weird isn't really something I can respond to; it's completely subjective on your part. And as far as reasoning goes, I think even you would agree that it's not nearly as strong evidence as it should be for you to be so confident that I'm a Wolf.

Day 1, I thought you were the Lyncher because of your behavior with regard to Charu. The only reason I left on that a bit and felt that you might not be a Wolf or Third Party was because you didn't realize there wasn't a Cop in the setup (and I figured you would have looked at the setup if you weren't a Vanillager), but I've relinquished that reasoning after having ruminated over it because it's too circumstantial and WIFOM. Day 2, I mentioned a small suspicion on me, to which you responded immediately with a vote onto me, which I found overdefensive. After your abrupt and vigorous suspicion of me then developed was when I started suspecting you more and more. So tell me, where was I being "artificial" in my read of you? Where did I make a major shift in my opinion of you?

[Charles Claythorne]

Re: TWG CXXXIX (139) - Intro to Bastard++ [Game Thread]

Mashi I fell off the map cuz I was in Niagara falls at the casino all day and just got home. It's typical for the weekend and it's late and I'm going to bed, couldn't be fucked to do anything else

Okay, fair enough, j-rodd, just make sure #DREAMTEAM stays afloat!!!

[Funnygurl555]

Re: TWG CXXXIX (139) - Intro to Bastard++ [Game Thread]

i'm not confident i'm just maddo i get maddo in games mashi ;______;
see i need to stop throwing tantrums when this happens to me it always gets me mislynched and i never learn

[Charles Claythorne]

Re: TWG CXXXIX (139) - Intro to Bastard++ [Game Thread]

Funnygurl, assume you lynch me and I flip as a Human. Whom do you suspect after that and why?

[Charles Claythorne]

Re: TWG CXXXIX (139) - Intro to Bastard++ [Game Thread]

Also pls dont be mad at me funnygurl :'(

[Funnygurl555]

Re: TWG CXXXIX (139) - Intro to Bastard++ [Game Thread]

but you left me alone once you read my lol-reads list and then you came back this phase like "fg's prolly a woof or something" and i was just like "=(" that made me think you were being opportunistic or something

[Funnygurl555]

Re: TWG CXXXIX (139) - Intro to Bastard++ [Game Thread]

it's ok i'm not mad at you mashi !!!

at that point i'd have to look at dbp, because he has considered both you and me as lynch targets and it would look like he's trying to misdirect the lynch

[Charles Claythorne]

Re: TWG CXXXIX (139) - Intro to Bastard++ [Game Thread]

I never said I thought you were a Wolf with any definitiveness. Here's the post in question. My suspicion of you came about primarily through POE and I even mentioned I would look through vote counts to see if I could figure anything out from them.

[Charles Claythorne]

Re: TWG CXXXIX (139) - Intro to Bastard++ [Game Thread]

Do you think DaBackpack would suggest the farfetch'd theory of you being Cult Leader and me being Wolf Stalker if he were a Wolf? I feel like most Wolves wouldn't purposely tunnel so hard that it would look embarrassing to them after a flip.

[Charles Claythorne]

Re: TWG CXXXIX (139) - Intro to Bastard++ [Game Thread]

btw im going to bed soon i just need to finish playing love live