TWG CXXXVII - Crisis in Kitchen Stadium! Bobby Flay's Revenge - GAME THREAD

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  • Curry and Rice
    FFR Player
    • May 2015
    • 5

    #556
    Re: TWG CXXXVII - Crisis in Kitchen Stadium! Bobby Flay's Revenge - GAME THREAD

    Originally posted by _Zenith_
    I want you to literally quit this game for a day because you are way too overzealous when players call out inconsistencies on your end and all you do is deflect our calling outs as a "omgus-borderline" ploy in which you end up being skewed in any thoughts you conjure up and basically hinder this game from continuing as long as players keep listening to you.

    Seriously CnR, drop the fucking act and take a day off because you haven't moved off the topic of personal combats and it's starting to really show how little validity you have in this game.
    I'm not sure you see the hypocrisy in your posts, especially complaining about me "deflecting" and bringing up "personal combats," both of which you have done (being the main reasons I took issue with you in the first place; your primary response to me not immediately believing you to be a human was to become defensive, indignant, degrading, and shortly after, exploding into a tantrum; all without giving justification for any of your other actions, or lack of notable ones).


    On another note... Roundbox, how have your reads changed since the end of day? If anybody else wants to answer this, they can. As for me, I don't think my reads have changed too drastically yet, except for Sunfan being lowered a place or two. Might change more depending on what we get as the phase goes on.

    Also, a question for Mashi specifically: Nighthawk townreads you, but what is your opinion on Nighthawk?

    Originally posted by _Zenith_
    Town definitely blocked a kill last night; nearly factual and I have no desire to hear that the wolf team in fact didn't send a kill in N1 because that's retarded and I hope wolves get reamed in post game if they truly didn't send a kill N1.
    Now, this is a bit of a stretch, but what if the wolves didn't send in a kill because they wanted the game to remain at a relative standstill (i.e. like it is now)? It can definitely be advantageous in some situations, especially if the wolves weren't wildly suspected last day, so ideally for them, we'll either have to take a popular wolf read from this/last phase, or take a complete shot in the dark, neither of which are ideal for us. Numbers-wise, they're not taking too much of a hit either, unless they get unlucky and hit a guarded target (though I do think some sort of guarding is the most probably option already).

    It's also possible, though less likely, that a wolfing at this stage could give away a wolf's identity more easily than a lack of one would.

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    • Nighthawk252
      FFR Player
      • Feb 2013
      • 6

      #557
      Re: TWG CXXXVII - Crisis in Kitchen Stadium! Bobby Flay's Revenge - GAME THREAD

      Yeah the wolf team definitely didn't NK.

      We're likely dealing with a Jailkeeper. A JK has almost twice the likelihood of stopping the kill. A BP wouldn't or can't be roleblocked. And it's unlikely we're dealing with a doctor. The only possible doctor setup now includes a roleblocker, which slightly decreases its likelihood.

      Just as a heads up, I'll be pretty busy tomorrow. I'll take another look at the thread tonight and post a vote then.

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      • Nighthawk252
        FFR Player
        • Feb 2013
        • 6

        #558
        Re: TWG CXXXVII - Crisis in Kitchen Stadium! Bobby Flay's Revenge - GAME THREAD

        C&R: The win conditions here are different from what they are on LLF since the wolves have to = humans at the end of a day phase rather than just at any point. That means it's not advantageous for the wolves to NK in this setup. If I was a wolf I wouldn't NK under LLF win conditions either (at least not at this point in the game).

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        • roundbox
          fhqwhgads
          • Feb 2005
          • 2086

          #559
          Re: TWG CXXXVII - Crisis in Kitchen Stadium! Bobby Flay's Revenge - GAME THREAD

          Originally posted by Curry and Rice
          On another note... Roundbox, how have your reads changed since the end of day? If anybody else wants to answer this, they can. As for me, I don't think my reads have changed too drastically yet, except for Sunfan being lowered a place or two. Might change more depending on what we get as the phase goes on.
          swap vendetta and jrodd for suspicions, with jrodd being closer to town and V being closer to wolf

          I am feeling wolves in sunfan/v/nighthawk

          feeling pretty confident in townreads on Zenith and Mashi
          Originally posted by the sun fan
          I'd be too tiny to be a bouncer



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          • Nighthawk252
            FFR Player
            • Feb 2013
            • 6

            #560
            Re: TWG CXXXVII - Crisis in Kitchen Stadium! Bobby Flay's Revenge - GAME THREAD

            Does anyone know if Sun Fan plays mediator when things get heated often, or if he has before?

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            • roundbox
              fhqwhgads
              • Feb 2005
              • 2086

              #561
              Re: TWG CXXXVII - Crisis in Kitchen Stadium! Bobby Flay's Revenge - GAME THREAD

              Originally posted by Nighthawk252
              We're likely dealing with a Jailkeeper. A JK has almost twice the likelihood of stopping the kill. A BP wouldn't or can't be roleblocked. And it's unlikely we're dealing with a doctor. The only possible doctor setup now includes a roleblocker, which slightly decreases its likelihood.
              Doctor/Tracker does not have a roleblocker
              Just know that the statistics I put up earlier for night protections are purely rand% and are completely ignoring thread posts and player behavior
              Roleblocker has a 1/6 chance of hitting someone performing an action in the jailer setup, and a 1/3 chance of hitting someone performing an action in doctor/cop setup. It's not completely wrong to rule out the roleblocker but I still think it's too early
              Originally posted by the sun fan
              I'd be too tiny to be a bouncer



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              • roundbox
                fhqwhgads
                • Feb 2005
                • 2086

                #562
                Re: TWG CXXXVII - Crisis in Kitchen Stadium! Bobby Flay's Revenge - GAME THREAD

                Originally posted by Nighthawk252
                Does anyone know if Sun Fan plays mediator when things get heated often, or if he has before?
                him answering questions (my question about BP, Zenith's question about NK) is not alignment indicative, but it is interesting to see him hovering in the thread and not really putting a foot forward yet
                Originally posted by the sun fan
                I'd be too tiny to be a bouncer



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                • j-rodd123
                  End of the road
                  • Oct 2006
                  • 3692

                  #563
                  Re: TWG CXXXVII - Crisis in Kitchen Stadium! Bobby Flay's Revenge - GAME THREAD

                  has anyone noticed if V has been viewing the thread at all? I was gonna come in guns blazing at him because he's a solid player who can give us something in either role, but I mean come on, he really enjoys to control things as a wolf so I really don't know what to make of him mailing it in

                  Originally posted by FictionJunction
                  wow

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                  • Nighthawk252
                    FFR Player
                    • Feb 2013
                    • 6

                    #564
                    Re: TWG CXXXVII - Crisis in Kitchen Stadium! Bobby Flay's Revenge - GAME THREAD

                    I'm asking about things like asking choof to be a little more civil with kawamii and trying to generally calm the thread after the replacements that ensued. I'll link to the posts when I'm not on mobile which should be later tonight

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                    • j-rodd123
                      End of the road
                      • Oct 2006
                      • 3692

                      #565
                      Re: TWG CXXXVII - Crisis in Kitchen Stadium! Bobby Flay's Revenge - GAME THREAD

                      vendetta

                      I mean applying a little pressure wont hurt

                      also I feel really bad for saying this but I hope I didn't clear mashi too lightly, he was super pure d1 and posting a ton but it wasn't his usual sit back and then commanding presence in long posts only. it was much more interacting with nighthawk, but if I doubt our #POWEROFLOVE it will only hurt me

                      I think nighthawk has a decent POE right now, he seems awfully villagery too for someone I have no meta with, I really don't wanna get dunked on. something about curry annoys me still and ill need to reread him like I said I would before I do anything. I will say him laughing at me and zenith when the day started was slightly wolfy? that's the impression I got but wolves probably would've been pissed seeing no kill

                      Originally posted by FictionJunction
                      wow

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                      • j-rodd123
                        End of the road
                        • Oct 2006
                        • 3692

                        #566
                        Re: TWG CXXXVII - Crisis in Kitchen Stadium! Bobby Flay's Revenge - GAME THREAD

                        eh curry's posts today seem fine, I just want him to be a wolf because he called me a wolf.

                        also I want it to be more than just wagon an inactive today. I'd like to see pressure on sunfan too, still if im the seer I visited him so let's play along with my inconsistent cover

                        Originally posted by FictionJunction
                        wow

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                        • Nighthawk252
                          FFR Player
                          • Feb 2013
                          • 6

                          #567
                          Re: TWG CXXXVII - Crisis in Kitchen Stadium! Bobby Flay's Revenge - GAME THREAD

                          Mashi: Are you suspicious of me at all? I feel like my meta kind of screams a specific wolf partner for me if I'm a wolf and I'm wondering why you haven't brought that up.

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                          • j-rodd123
                            End of the road
                            • Oct 2006
                            • 3692

                            #568
                            Re: TWG CXXXVII - Crisis in Kitchen Stadium! Bobby Flay's Revenge - GAME THREAD

                            ok well mashi isn't here so can you elaborate that point? I know people probably find statements like that villagery because it's like oh why would this person ask questions that imply their game is in the wolf range, but that is stuff I like to do as a wolf lol

                            so my DRUDGE SIREN has activated

                            Originally posted by FictionJunction
                            wow

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                            • roundbox
                              fhqwhgads
                              • Feb 2005
                              • 2086

                              #569
                              Re: TWG CXXXVII - Crisis in Kitchen Stadium! Bobby Flay's Revenge - GAME THREAD

                              Originally posted by j-rodd123
                              has anyone noticed if V has been viewing the thread at all? I was gonna come in guns blazing at him because he's a solid player who can give us something in either role, but I mean come on, he really enjoys to control things as a wolf so I really don't know what to make of him mailing it in
                              he subbed in and it's also pretty much the super bowl of videogames right now so his focus is spent there atm (I have been watching it too)

                              that being said my vote on him still stands
                              Originally posted by the sun fan
                              I'd be too tiny to be a bouncer



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                              • j-rodd123
                                End of the road
                                • Oct 2006
                                • 3692

                                #570
                                Re: TWG CXXXVII - Crisis in Kitchen Stadium! Bobby Flay's Revenge - GAME THREAD

                                yea I know he subbed in but I would've expected him to have read the thread by now and offered any sort of thoughts so I was wondering if he was viewing the thread at all today.

                                we've gotten nothing from him so pressure there is more than fine

                                Originally posted by FictionJunction
                                wow

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