TWG CXXXVII - Crisis in Kitchen Stadium! Bobby Flay's Revenge - GAME THREAD

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Re: TWG CXXXVII - Crisis in Kitchen Stadium! Bobby Flay's Revenge - GAME THREAD

is this the post ur talking about wanting me to comment on zenith?

ben flipped villager, we have no confirmed towns nor wolves, you can't analyze wagons in that way, it makes no sense - when ur referring to "happened thus far". make reads based on what the player it's not worth it doing it the other way

piggybacking off of this: why focus me above sunfan (or even C&R)? I know you're going hard on me because PoE, but it kinda makes your point here a bit hypocritical

I'm actually very okay with this listing, but could you maybe offer some examples about Sunfan? Could you also replace Sunfan with anyone else because I cannot see yourself having 4 major townreads while making it nearly POE influencing your wolf reads on those players?

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Re: TWG CXXXVII - Crisis in Kitchen Stadium! Bobby Flay's Revenge - GAME THREAD

There apparently is some League Championship thing whatever going on or something though, so maybe he is preoccupying himself with that

it's Dota btw

[_Zenith_]

Re: TWG CXXXVII - Crisis in Kitchen Stadium! Bobby Flay's Revenge - GAME THREAD

It would be ideal to find out who was targeted not who performed the action, but the only one who can claim being hit and living through the night is the BP.

I think we are at a standstill because there isn't movement whatsoever from both town and wolves and I'm not going to sit here and throw out bullshit when I want to solve the game.

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Re: TWG CXXXVII - Crisis in Kitchen Stadium! Bobby Flay's Revenge - GAME THREAD

It would be ideal to find out who was targeted not who performed the action, but the only one who can claim being hit and living through the night is the BP.

is BP notified of being hit?

[_Zenith_]

Re: TWG CXXXVII - Crisis in Kitchen Stadium! Bobby Flay's Revenge - GAME THREAD

NICE
it would be ridiculous if the wolves submitted a NK so I'm gonna assume something cool happened

This was your first post this phase and it was after realizing nobody was killed last night; I would like to prod at you asking why did you post this?

The NICE seems genuine, but the latter subject seems conspicuous to me due to mentioning the possibility of a nightkill or non-submittal kill and immediately pushing to an assumption rather than a factual statement/evidence.

[_Zenith_]

Re: TWG CXXXVII - Crisis in Kitchen Stadium! Bobby Flay's Revenge - GAME THREAD

is BP notified of being hit?

Yes, they should always be notified of being hit and if they aren't twg sucks

[_Zenith_]

Re: TWG CXXXVII - Crisis in Kitchen Stadium! Bobby Flay's Revenge - GAME THREAD

Just want to say I have the strong feeling we aren't dealing with Column A anymore

I really do not see the possibility of the wolves having a roleblocker, nope nope nope nope nope

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Re: TWG CXXXVII - Crisis in Kitchen Stadium! Bobby Flay's Revenge - GAME THREAD

Just want to say I have the strong feeling we aren't dealing with Column A anymore

I really do not see the possibility of the wolves having a roleblocker, nope nope nope nope nope

why's that

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Re: TWG CXXXVII - Crisis in Kitchen Stadium! Bobby Flay's Revenge - GAME THREAD

This was your first post this phase and it was after realizing nobody was killed last night; I would like to prod at you asking why did you post this?

The NICE seems genuine, but the latter subject seems conspicuous to me due to mentioning the possibility of a nightkill or non-submittal kill and immediately pushing to an assumption rather than a factual statement/evidence.

I only brought it up because I read the charu game recently and it was also a matrix6

[_Zenith_]

Re: TWG CXXXVII - Crisis in Kitchen Stadium! Bobby Flay's Revenge - GAME THREAD

The setup we have is one of these three:

Row 1: Jailkeeper, VT, VW (Vanilla Wolf)
Row 3: 1-Shot BP, VW, Tracker
Column C: VW, Doctor, Tracker

If we got real lucky however, setup would be in fact Column A or Row 2 yet those contains Roleblockers and I still have the gut feeling there isn't one

[_Zenith_]

Re: TWG CXXXVII - Crisis in Kitchen Stadium! Bobby Flay's Revenge - GAME THREAD

I only brought it up because I read the charu game recently and it was also a matrix6

Fair Enough

As for explaining why I think there isn't a Roleblocker letsee

Town definitely blocked a kill last night; nearly factual and I have no desire to hear that the wolf team in fact didn't send a kill in N1 because that's retarded and I hope wolves get reamed in post game if they truly didn't send a kill N1.

Roleblocker isn't known to anyone but the wolf team however; it was not evident that someone was roleblocked unless a PR outs AND outs that they were roleblocked which is highly unlikely. HOWEVER, if RB picked a VT then they still aren't known until a PR runs into them or we lynch that wolf.

I'm safely trusting my gut read on not having a Roleblocker but I could once again be easily proved wrong.

[thesunfan]

Re: TWG CXXXVII - Crisis in Kitchen Stadium! Bobby Flay's Revenge - GAME THREAD

Since when?

1) Read game 108 if you haven't to see why no-kills can be really good. Or at least read the last day phase.

2) It boils down to if cardflips are on, no kills are on, more or less. It specifically depends on the setup, and that's the rule of thumb, though not always true.

3) The wiki for matrix6 talks about making no-kills for strategic reasons.

[thesunfan]

Re: TWG CXXXVII - Crisis in Kitchen Stadium! Bobby Flay's Revenge - GAME THREAD

is BP notified of being hit?

yes

[thesunfan]

Re: TWG CXXXVII - Crisis in Kitchen Stadium! Bobby Flay's Revenge - GAME THREAD

Townreads:

Zenith
Mashi
C&R
JRodd


I don't think I'll be flopping on any of the above four today. Hopefully the wolves are among these three:

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Sunfan

can you explain your townread on mashi and explain why your read on anyone changed as a result of the lynch, not necessarily in alignment but in how confident you feel that they are x.

[Nighthawk252]

Re: TWG CXXXVII - Crisis in Kitchen Stadium! Bobby Flay's Revenge - GAME THREAD

The lynch didn't change my thoughts as much as some time away from the thread to think about people did.

Zenith's the same slot as choof. I can also add onto that townread now though because I think his speculation on the setup not having a roleblocker seems really town.

Townread on Mashi is a tone thing, as well feeling kind of a mindmeld after this post.

C&R's play reminds me more of his human play than his wolf play.

And JRodd's seems human the more I think about him because I think inconsistency is a town behavior. I think wolves tend to go more for indecision and humans are more likely to go back and forth on what they say. That's helped at least in part because I'm human and doing a lot of the same type of thing this game, but I also feel like I tend to be more of a stick in the mud as a wolf too, though that really only applies if I feel my partner has a chance to be lynched.