TWG XCVIII: A bunch of people in a room playing mafia

[James May]

Re: TWG XCVIII: A bunch of people in a room playing mafia

Keep it short and sweet for now, then, James. We've had a couple of medium-sized pushes today. Do you think they were good? Bad?

Gotta catch up on that.
Mind giving me the rundown on the pushes that happened?

[Vendetta21]

Re: TWG XCVIII: A bunch of people in a room playing mafia

Gotta catch up on that.
Mind giving me the rundown on the pushes that happened?

learn to skim

[Vendetta21]

Re: TWG XCVIII: A bunch of people in a room playing mafia

wait your currently in college and you dont know how to skim something and give a half-assed response that gets to the point?

[James May]

Re: TWG XCVIII: A bunch of people in a room playing mafia

wait your currently in college and you dont know how to skim something and give a half-assed response that gets to the point?

I do, but I just rather look through it thoroughly to not fuck up.

But what I do know is mainly the possibility of a tps push (correct me if Im wrong). I'm still looking through this thread though.

[James May]

Re: TWG XCVIII: A bunch of people in a room playing mafia

Alright. I feel like a push on Vic seems to be plausible but I feel that her inactivity is what makes her town sadly. I am hesitant on that because of what happened last game. Although I am more wary for both tps and jrodd (which I still am pissed that I didn't go with my read on them at the end >_<...)

Also, wtf jrodd, do you want to kill yourself ._.?
V, I understand why you're pissed at Vic but we need to place our bitterness aside and not let that cloud our judgement on who could be mafia (and the possible serial killer mind you, which SK might've picked seer immunity if that was the case. iirc freaky picked seer immunity when he was serial killer correct?)

[Viccica]

Re: TWG XCVIII: A bunch of people in a room playing mafia

Something that stolidly sticks out to me right now is Dance's aggressive play very early on over pretty much nothing. He was obtuse at the start and kinda just dropped off. However, something that he did get harped on for was reiterating things that other people have said. Now, I feel this is a sticky situation to be in. Either you say something that you are thinking that other people happened to be thinking as well, or you sit back and shut up about it to avoid drawing attention to yourself. Which of these may be the case? Who knows. But don't assume one without considering the other. Further, my opinion of Dance as a wolf is that he may play a much quieter game. Amongst the players here, plenty of people will stir up trouble and throw accusations around. That's a typical day one here, it seems. Dance and V being the two that do this the most.

As far as I can see from here, there are some pretty valid points against yoman as well. He's got some subtle parts where I just don't feel right about him and questionable statements in general. First, he kind of attacked Manti for having only a few posts, which is weak because I only had two nonsense posts at that point as well. Manti surfaced to answer a direct question in a concise manner. Manti has even said multiple times in the past he waits a few phases to surface, because the first few days of the game are typically just good observation days. However I'd refer to the statement I made about dance as well, it's perfectly acceptable to agree with other people. Defending V and then voting with him is just an ego-stroke with a slight defense of TPS saying he can't get a read on him. Think about the past few games and how many people didn't have a read on TPS. Weak, man.

I think Jrodd's knee-jerk reaction was a bit much for the comments that were thrown to him. He got crazy defensive and went on a bit of a tangent over a slight remark. Not even a vote, just a comment. I notice he did that in the past in a few games so I don't know if it's just in his character to be belligerent but there you have it.

Kraut seems like he's playing like I did last game. Skimming, posting here and there and then leaving because it's enough to skate by.


Drizzt and eva, I think you guys should really focus more on your own intuition and thoughts. You're telling us you're new to the game far too frequently, we know you're new. However this is a game about reading and deducing. Take stabs, posts your thoughts. Don't be afraid to jump into the game. The less confident you seem, the more people will likely just scroll over your posts and move on. Thus far you've said virtually nothing of consequence and so, you're empty space.
Drizz I will say seems to have a decent thought process, though lacks conviction and confidence to elaborate on it.


TPS is being boring and logical. No real read on him, but claiming townie is kind 'yeah, alright dude' and he knows it. It's talking just to talk. However he raises valid, logical points with no real room to refute or question him. BORING. I do think he stumbled into a connection that yoman was establishing to V, but I do not see it reiterated. I think this is one of those ideas that TPS has taken and ran with.

V is being typical V.

The rest I don't have a strong opinion on.

[Viccica]

Re: TWG XCVIII: A bunch of people in a room playing mafia

Push on Vi for what, you swine?

Worst people. Absolute worst.

[Viccica]

Re: TWG XCVIII: A bunch of people in a room playing mafia

Don't you walk out on me i'm actually here this time

[Viccica]

Re: TWG XCVIII: A bunch of people in a room playing mafia

^ read that in all caps.

[dAnceguy117]

Re: TWG XCVIII: A bunch of people in a room playing mafia

does anyone call you Vi? that's way too close to V.

Viccica i really appreciate the effort, A+ material, keep it up, but i disagree with nearly everything you said. just wanted you to know that.

[Viccica]

Re: TWG XCVIII: A bunch of people in a room playing mafia

Noted. Don't care.

[Viccica]

Re: TWG XCVIII: A bunch of people in a room playing mafia

Tell me why, what and give reasons.

[DarkManticoreX2]

Re: TWG XCVIII: A bunch of people in a room playing mafia

does anyone call you Vi? that's way too close to V.

Viccica i really appreciate the effort, A+ material, keep it up, but i disagree with nearly everything you said. just wanted you to know that.

I laughed really hard reading this.

[Vendetta21]

Re: TWG XCVIII: A bunch of people in a room playing mafia

@vic

Dance's last wolf game he was really neutral and made a lot of white noise before dying miserably.

At the moment Dance seems to be repeating his performance of last game.

You acknowledge the dropping off and point out what it could mean, but you don't venture to decide which one seems more reasonable. This is weird. You have already gone a great distance in forming your opinion to come to that place AND you inform us but you don't mull it over enough to take a stance.

[dAnceguy117]

Re: TWG XCVIII: A bunch of people in a room playing mafia

Something that stolidly sticks out to me right now is Dance's aggressive play very early on over pretty much nothing. He was obtuse at the start and kinda just dropped off.

I didn't drop off. V and Tps started going at it. There was no reason for me to interject and say "OH, I THINK ______ BECAUSE ______" before the dust settled. They wrapped things up, and now I've jumped back in.

However, something that he did get harped on for was reiterating things that other people have said. Now, I feel this is a sticky situation to be in. Either you say something that you are thinking that other people happened to be thinking as well, or you sit back and shut up about it to avoid drawing attention to yourself. Which of these may be the case? Who knows. But don't assume one without considering the other.

Way too much analysis on this. I don't even see where I restated someone else's point about voting for YoshL, but even if I did... meh. It doesn't sound like you think such an action would help you in making a decision, anyway.

As far as I can see from here, there are some pretty valid points against yoman as well. He's got some subtle parts where I just don't feel right about him and questionable statements in general. First, he kind of attacked Manti for having only a few posts, which is weak because I only had two nonsense posts at that point as well. Manti surfaced to answer a direct question in a concise manner. Manti has even said multiple times in the past he waits a few phases to surface, because the first few days of the game are typically just good observation days. However I'd refer to the statement I made about dance as well, it's perfectly acceptable to agree with other people.

Don't see where you're going with this. Could you restate your opinion on YMIA in, like, three sentences?

Defending V and then voting with him is just an ego-stroke with a slight defense of TPS saying he can't get a read on him. Think about the past few games and how many people didn't have a read on TPS. Weak, man.

I don't think you understood that bit correctly. Pretty sure YMIA was suspicious of the intent of that Tps comment, not because it was directed toward V. At least that's how he explained it. Read into it however you will.

I think Jrodd's knee-jerk reaction was a bit much for the comments that were thrown to him. He got crazy defensive and went on a bit of a tangent over a slight remark. Not even a vote, just a comment. I notice he did that in the past in a few games so I don't know if it's just in his character to be belligerent but there you have it.

Having the only confirmed town player in the game call you out as "highly suspicious" isn't really a slight remark. Now whether or not you thought j-rodd's reaction was indicative of a certain alignment, that's up to you. But it wasn't over nothing.

Kraut seems like he's playing like I did last game. Skimming, posting here and there and then leaving because it's enough to skate by.

I'm confused by this statement. You said that Kraut is playing like you did last game (you were town) and is trying to "skate by." How is that helpful to the town's cause? I guess I'm not questioning your observation. I just sincerely don't get it.

Drizzt and eva, I think you guys should really focus more on your own intuition and thoughts. You're telling us you're new to the game far too frequently, we know you're new. However this is a game about reading and deducing. Take stabs, posts your thoughts. Don't be afraid to jump into the game. The less confident you seem, the more people will likely just scroll over your posts and move on. Thus far you've said virtually nothing of consequence and so, you're empty space.

Every post matters. Everything that's said matters. If a new player seems to be vocally using newbie status as a crutch, maybe you can incorporate that into your reads?

Drizz I will say seems to have a decent thought process, though lacks conviction and confidence to elaborate on it.

Elaborating in big huge essay form isn't always necessary. Otherwise, I agree.

TPS is being boring and logical. No real read on him, but claiming townie is kind 'yeah, alright dude' and he knows it. It's talking just to talk. However he raises valid, logical points with no real room to refute or question him. BORING.

If I remember correctly, you described Tps's posts as "logical" near the end of the last game. Can you come up with any better read than that? Can a wolf make logical arguments?

V is being typical V.

V has posted a bunch already. His tone isn't the only cue you have to work with. I can draw a number of similarities and dissimilarities in relation to some of the other games I've seen him play. Can you?