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  • Spheroid
    FFR Player
    • Jan 2005
    • 412

    #46
    RE: Re: RE: jTWG III - Locked in the middle of Nowhere - Nig

    Another planning convo with freak:

    spheroiddice: k, I'm here
    Real Freak83: ok so what are you confused about exactly
    Real Freak83: what's your original plan you don't know if you can post anymore
    spheroiddice: what I should post on the forum
    Real Freak83: i can't write it for you because it has to sound like yourself
    Real Freak83: what you want to say
    Real Freak83: sorry
    Real Freak83: you want to back slacky up
    Real Freak83: confirming that the guardian is dead
    Real Freak83: during that post you want to reveal that you are the seer
    spheroiddice: I don't know how to make it sound like a slip up
    Real Freak83: but make it sound like your completely oblivious
    spheroiddice: I had a plan earilier, but it doesn't work with what's been posted
    Real Freak83: you want to back him up, sound oblivious
    Real Freak83: and like you don't reliase you would have normally just made a huge mistake
    Real Freak83: slacky, maybe me, maybe others will start calling you a noob for doing this, this is good, it just proves that you are the seer
    Real Freak83: i'll guard you and the wolves will vote for you, you live, everyone knows for sure you're the seer, you reveal the roles night by night
    spheroiddice: yeah, I know that part of the plan
    spheroiddice: should I quote slacky in my post?
    Real Freak83: maybe, as long as you're just quoting what he just posted
    Real Freak83: confirm the guardian is dead, backing him up while revealing yourself
    spheroiddice: I think I'll put in a vote for Rye_Bread at the end to make me seem like a noob for bandwagoning, and because I actually think he'
    spheroiddice: is a wolf
    spheroiddice: Here's what I plan on posting:
    spheroiddice: Wow, I can't believe you would think slacky is a wolf for posting that. I seered bladmonkey last night and he is a wolf. btw, my vote goes to rye_bread. He seems like a wolf.
    Real Freak83: NO
    Real Freak83: blademonkey was the guardian!
    spheroiddice: ahh, good thing you caught em. Another stupid mistake
    Real Freak83: phew, i thought you already posted
    spheroiddice: no, I'm checking to make sure it's ok
    spheroiddice: besides that, do u think it's convincing enough?
    Real Freak83: looks ok to me
    spheroiddice: k, I'm posting it.
    spheroiddice: slacky posted a response calling me a noob. should I post saying that I didn't know
    Real Freak83: yes, that might be a good idea
    Real Freak83: DANLEWIS2005: omg, Spheroid shouldn't have posted that he was the seer, he's a goner
    Real Freak83: what!
    Real Freak83: omg
    DANLEWIS2005: he said he seered blademonkey, IDIOT!!!!!
    Real Freak83: omg..........
    Real Freak83: this is not good
    spheroiddice: so it's working
    Real Freak83: it's going to plan
    Real Freak83: after the wolves try to kill you, everything will be normal
    spheroiddice: I'm going to log out now so I don't have the chance to defend myself. Accept whe polyspheroid sends you a message.
    Real Freak83: you can never say that i'm the guardian though
    spheroiddice: k
    Real Freak83: or else we are majorally screwed
    spheroiddice: yeah, I know. If you die, the plan is pointless
    spheroiddice: anyway, i'm "logging of now"
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    • VashtheGunman7
      FFR Player
      • Apr 2004
      • 456

      #47
      RE: Re: RE: jTWG III - Locked in the middle of Nowhere - Nig

      Sorry guys I have been very busy.


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      • Spheroid
        FFR Player
        • Jan 2005
        • 412

        #48
        RE: Re: RE: jTWG III - Locked in the middle of Nowhere - Nig

        Yet another convo with Freak

        polyspheroid: this is spheroid
        Real Freak83: kk
        Real Freak83: GreenOblivion87: hey Jon
        Real Freak83: yo
        Real Freak83: did you see what happened
        GreenOblivion87: we are screwed because of what Spheroid did
        GreenOblivion87: fucking moron
        Real Freak83: i can't believe him
        Real Freak83: i thought he knew better than that
        GreenOblivion87: it's common sense!
        GreenOblivion87: the wolves are going to win this by far
        Real Freak83: i know
        Real Freak83: that's what happens when noobs get special roles i guess
        GreenOblivion87: might as well start the sign-ups for the next game
        Real Freak83: this game still has to end first
        Real Freak83: i feel so bad about this right now
        Real Freak83: oh well, day 2 everything will be ok
        polyspheroid: it's kinda fun successfuly tricking everyone, though
        Real Freak83: lol i'm glad you're not taking this part too hard
        Real Freak83: until day 2 it's gonna be tough for you, cause everyone's gonna hate you
        Real Freak83: well except me and slacky
        polyspheroid: good thing slacky's human
        Real Freak83: i seriously believe so
        Real Freak83: if i die tonight, then we know - SLACKY IS A WOLF
        Real Freak83: cause he's the only person other than you who knows i'm the guardian
        polyspheroid: if you die, I think it will be best to reveal the whole plan. Then we can bring slacky down (if he's a wolf)
        Real Freak83: yeah
        Real Freak83: we don't reveal anything otherwise until postgame
        polyspheroid: of course
        Real Freak83: well
        Real Freak83: we'll have to reveal some of it
        Real Freak83: when you're protected tonight
        Real Freak83: it will be confirmed that you're a human at the very least
        polyspheroid: Everything except that you're the gaurdian
        Real Freak83: but it will be obvious you lied about blademonkey being the guardian
        Real Freak83: you can say that you lied about that part, as now everyone will know that you are the seer
        Real Freak83: you can say that was planned
        Real Freak83: then you can reveal who you seer'd, keep in mind if you seer the Psychic just say he's human
        polyspheroid: as I said, reveal the whole plan except that you're the gaurdian
        Real Freak83: well i dunno about the whole plan, we'll discuss it before you post on day 2
        polyspheroid: yeah
        Real Freak83: Spheroid, even if you aren't the seer, why would you say something like "I seered so and so"? That's basically giving yourself away, making sure that you get killed the next night.
        Real Freak83: lmao
        Real Freak83: maybe the reason you said it is so you get wolfed lol
        Real Freak83: this is funny
        Real Freak83: everyone is so angry right now, and i'm laughing so hard
        polyspheroid: what are you typing all this for?
        Real Freak83: i didn't
        Real Freak83: i copy pasted what someone else said
        polyspheroid: oh
        polyspheroid: do u think I should sign on? I'll probably be the safest not doing anything
        Real Freak83: stay offline
        Real Freak83: or on this account at least
        polyspheroid: I'm creating a new ffr name so I can check the forum
        Real Freak83: k, good idea
        Real Freak83: oh wait
        Real Freak83: if you're gonna check twg
        Real Freak83: you need to be in twg usergroup, don't forget that
        polyspheroid: that's why I need to start a new account
        Real Freak83: k

        Look at the line I bolded. It's another argument about slacky, cause he was the only one we let into everything in our plan
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        • Spheroid
          FFR Player
          • Jan 2005
          • 412

          #49
          RE: Re: RE: jTWG III - Locked in the middle of Nowhere - Nig

          Here's a conversation I had with slacky before I posted anything on this. I acted stupid at first to see what he was pretending not to know. When I threw everything on him that I knew freak had told me, he acted shocked. He knows acting like he never knew anything is his only chance of not dying today (see bold in post above).

          spheroiddice: hey, wats up?
          Xenofixus88: sucks
          Xenofixus88: sup
          spheroiddice: well I just read the story, freak died
          Xenofixus88: what
          Xenofixus88: he did
          spheroiddice: yup
          spheroiddice: so you haven't read the story yet?
          Xenofixus88: im reading now
          spheroiddice: what do you think this means
          Xenofixus88: im really confused
          spheroiddice: how could anyone have known?
          Xenofixus88: known??
          spheroiddice: to kill freak
          Xenofixus88: i dont know
          Xenofixus88: whats freak
          spheroiddice: he's the one who died
          Xenofixus88: yeah
          Xenofixus88: i dont know
          Xenofixus88: how do u know??
          spheroiddice: know what?
          Xenofixus88: know that blade is a guardian
          spheroiddice: what? are you kidding. blade wasn't gaudian
          Xenofixus88: what
          Xenofixus88: wtf
          Xenofixus88: blade wasnt guardian
          spheroiddice: honestly slacky, are you acting stupid?
          Xenofixus88: what
          Xenofixus88: wtf
          Xenofixus88: ur the one saying he is
          Xenofixus88: i dont know wtf is going on
          spheroiddice: didn't freak tell you?
          Xenofixus88: tell me what
          spheroiddice: let me check my convos. just a sec
          spheroiddice: k, here's a quote from freak Real Freak83: if i die tonight, then we know - SLACKY IS A WOLF
          Xenofixus88: wtf
          Xenofixus88: freak is guardian
          Xenofixus88: wtf are u saying
          Xenofixus88: y are u lieing to me
          spheroiddice: and you knew that
          Xenofixus88: u told me GUARDIAN WAS A WOLF
          spheroiddice: because freak said he told me
          Xenofixus88: u told me that blade was a guardian
          Xenofixus88: what
          spheroiddice: *you
          Xenofixus88: freak didnt tell me anything
          spheroiddice: I lied. it was all part of plan that you ruined because you're a wolf. Check the forums in a couple hours. You'll se
          Xenofixus88: what
          Xenofixus88: u lied what
          Xenofixus88: ??
          spheroiddice: I don't have time to explain. Wait until I make my post

          If you haven't guessed, my vote goes for slacky
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          • BeefStu
            FFR Player
            • Jan 2004
            • 6

            #50
            You have no such evidence, because I am not a wolf. In our conversation, you sounded like you were trying to set me up for something, so of course I was acting suspicous. And why wouldn't the Seer get wolfed, unless the Seer was himself a wolf? How do you explain that, Spheroid?
            Feel free to email me or add me to MSN to discuss TWG.

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            • deltro300111
              FFR Player
              • Aug 2003
              • 1014

              #51
              RE: Re: RE: jTWG III - Locked in the middle of Nowhere - Nig

              ... Wow, slackygorgeking You've dug yourself a hole. Nuh...night.

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              • Rebirth0
                FFR Originalbro
                FFR Simfile Author
                • Jun 2003
                • 8751

                #52
                RE: Re: RE: jTWG III - Locked in the middle of Nowhere - Nig

                Spheroid, you didn't need to post that convo 4 times.

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                • slackygorgeking
                  FFR Player
                  • Jan 2005
                  • 223

                  #53
                  RE: Re: RE: jTWG III - Locked in the middle of Nowhere - Nig

                  okay there is something really fishy going on

                  1. I DID NOT KNOW FREAK WAS GUARDIAN
                  i dont understnad what is going on fully. there has been some major lying going on
                  spheroid told me blade was guardian and kept repeating it so i made my post
                  about how blade was guardian. i thought blade was guardian and am now not sure.
                  i had no clue freak was guardian and it makes no sense to me. i did not know of this alliance between spheroid, freak and dancer and just found out about it. y would freakgo behind my back about this if i was in an alliance with them and knew
                  their "plan" i am being framed.
                  i dont believe spheroid is the seer because i dont think he is that much of a newb. y would he make this mistake plus tell EVERYONE blade is a guardian. he has been lying the whole game and is lying now. i think he lied to freak and made him believe all this garbage.

                  I HAVE BEEN FRAMED... BY TWO CLOSE PEOPLE TO ME
                  just think about it

                  MONKEY is a nub

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                  • dAnceguy117
                    new hand moves = dab
                    FFR Simfile Author
                    • Dec 2002
                    • 10103

                    #54
                    RE: Re: RE: jTWG III - Locked in the middle of Nowhere - Nig

                    Take a look at this. Freak told me that he told Slacky about his true role as guardian, and Slacky says otherwise. Why would Freak lie? See if you can come up with anything, because my mind is still pretty due to change.

                    See, I didn't want Slacky to know I knew (XD), so I fed him stuff. Look at how he reacts to the truth, even just brought up as a random possibility.


                    P337 teh 1337: Hey.
                    Xenofixus88: hey
                    P337 teh 1337: What happened?
                    P337 teh 1337: Why'd Freak die?
                    Xenofixus88: i have no clue
                    P337 teh 1337: I mean
                    P337 teh 1337: I just figured Spheroid would die for sure...
                    Xenofixus88: same
                    P337 teh 1337: Wow.
                    P337 teh 1337: What happens now?
                    Xenofixus88: i got no clue
                    Xenofixus88: stay sharp
                    Xenofixus88: and keep an eye out
                    P337 teh 1337: Alright.
                    P337 teh 1337: Hm.
                    Xenofixus88: dont trust anyone
                    P337 teh 1337: I'm just thinking.
                    P337 teh 1337: Why on EARTH would someone kill Freak over Spheroid?
                    Xenofixus88: gots me why??
                    P337 teh 1337: Yeah =/
                    Xenofixus88: damn
                    Xenofixus88: i liked being in a jtwg with a friend
                    Xenofixus88: u talked wiht anyone
                    Xenofixus88: get any ideas
                    P337 teh 1337: Not really >_<
                    P337 teh 1337: You?
                    Xenofixus88: nah
                    Xenofixus88: no one is on
                    P337 teh 1337: Agh.
                    P337 teh 1337: But back to my suspicions of earlier.
                    P337 teh 1337: Remember when I said when Spheroid seered Blade, he couldn't have known he was the guardian?
                    Xenofixus88: yeah
                    P337 teh 1337: Well, are you sure he saw what GP said?
                    Xenofixus88: i dont know
                    Xenofixus88: i heard this all from second hand
                    P337 teh 1337: What if Blade was the psychic, and somehow Freak was the guardian?
                    Xenofixus88: ive been out of it this game
                    P337 teh 1337: And someone found out?
                    Xenofixus88: freak was the guardian
                    Xenofixus88: ??
                    P337 teh 1337: I'm just saying, that's the only reason I could think of he would die over anyone else, aside from the fact that he's smart.
                    Xenofixus88: lol
                    Xenofixus88: could make sense
                    Xenofixus88: where u getting this all from
                    P337 teh 1337: Out of my ass >_<
                    P337 teh 1337: Just random thoughts.
                    Xenofixus88: hmm
                    Xenofixus88: dancer
                    Xenofixus88: did u know freak was the guardian
                    P337 teh 1337: He was?
                    Xenofixus88: no
                    Xenofixus88: but u are saying that he is
                    P337 teh 1337: Are you sure or something?
                    Xenofixus88: if what u say is true
                    P337 teh 1337: No, I have no idea >_<
                    P337 teh 1337: ?
                    Xenofixus88: how do u know
                    P337 teh 1337: I don't know.
                    Xenofixus88: are u sure??
                    P337 teh 1337: That's my point >_<
                    Xenofixus88: becaues i have never heard this before
                    P337 teh 1337: Am I sure about what?
                    P337 teh 1337: I know.
                    Xenofixus88: i thought blade was the guardian
                    Xenofixus88: wtf
                    Xenofixus88: is shprehoid said blade was the guardian
                    P337 teh 1337: He probably was, I'm just trying to think of a reason why Freak would die over Spheroid >_<
                    Xenofixus88: hes the seer and he told me that blade was teh guardian
                    Xenofixus88: hmm
                    Xenofixus88: where did u come up with this
                    P337 teh 1337: Just now.
                    P337 teh 1337: After I saw Freak died, that is.
                    Xenofixus88: u just some how came up with it
                    P337 teh 1337: Yeah.
                    P337 teh 1337: Why?
                    P337 teh 1337: Can you think of anything else?
                    P337 teh 1337: I just want to piece this together.
                    P337 teh 1337: >_<
                    Xenofixus88: hmm
                    P337 teh 1337: Hang on.
                    P337 teh 1337: Remember the OTHER thing I said?
                    P337 teh 1337: About someone NOT wolfing Spheroid to throw us, and he's actually the seer?
                    P337 teh 1337: What if that happened?
                    P337 teh 1337: >_<
                    P337 teh 1337: This is so hard >_<
                    Xenofixus88: hmm
                    Xenofixus88: what is he isnt the seer
                    Xenofixus88: and was lying to us
                    Xenofixus88: but that doesnt make to much sense
                    Xenofixus88: hmmm
                    P337 teh 1337: Yeah...
                    P337 teh 1337: It's one or the other.
                    Xenofixus88: i dont know whats going on
                    Xenofixus88: im confused as u
                    P337 teh 1337: I don't either, this makes things hard >_<
                    Xenofixus88: yo i chopped the sexiest girl today
                    P337 teh 1337: ?
                    P337 teh 1337: wha
                    Xenofixus88: lol
                    Xenofixus88: nvm
                    P337 teh 1337: um
                    P337 teh 1337: k
                    Xenofixus88: LOL
                    Xenofixus88: i just had to get that out
                    P337 teh 1337: XD
                    Xenofixus88: u know what chopped means right
                    P337 teh 1337: not at all XD
                    Xenofixus88: lol
                    P337 teh 1337: That's why I said ?
                    Xenofixus88: it means picked up
                    P337 teh 1337: Ah.
                    P337 teh 1337:
                    Xenofixus88: u know got her number
                    P337 teh 1337: Never heard anyone use it.
                    P337 teh 1337: ;D
                    Xenofixus88: really
                    Xenofixus88: where ulive
                    P337 teh 1337: Michigan.
                    Xenofixus88: lol
                    Xenofixus88: are u a prep
                    P337 teh 1337: Nope ;D
                    Xenofixus88: then how have u not heard that term
                    P337 teh 1337: Don't have crap like that at a private school ;D
                    Xenofixus88: ahh
                    Xenofixus88: see ur a prep
                    Xenofixus88: its all good
                    P337 teh 1337: I know more than you think I know ;D
                    Xenofixus88: lol
                    Xenofixus88: i know
                    Xenofixus88: prep doesnt mean what u think it means lol
                    P337 teh 1337: lol
                    Xenofixus88: so umm
                    Xenofixus88: back to jtwg
                    P337 teh 1337: Maybe I know less than I think I know XD
                    P337 teh 1337: Yeah.
                    Xenofixus88: lol
                    Xenofixus88: she was sexy though
                    P337 teh 1337: XD
                    P337 teh 1337: So what if Spheroid is the seer?
                    P337 teh 1337: Then he gets one more seering.
                    P337 teh 1337: Hm.
                    Xenofixus88: umm
                    Xenofixus88: he said that blade was guardian right
                    P337 teh 1337: I don't know, I haven't really talked to him.
                    P337 teh 1337: Let me ask.
                    P337 teh 1337: Yeah, he said Blade was the guardian.
                    P337 teh 1337: Why?
                    Xenofixus88: because
                    Xenofixus88: then ur theorie is wrong
                    Xenofixus88: and we got nothing on why freak was killed
                    P337 teh 1337: Hm.
                    P337 teh 1337: That was just something random anyway, remember? XD
                    P337 teh 1337: But yeah, that eliminates one theory.
                    Xenofixus88: maybe
                    Xenofixus88: freak might of found out a wolf
                    P337 teh 1337: Ah, yeah.
                    Xenofixus88: yo
                    P337 teh 1337: That's an idea.
                    Xenofixus88: send me exactly what spheroid said
                    Xenofixus88: when he said that blade was the guardian
                    P337 teh 1337: just a sec
                    P337 teh 1337: Crap, my Dad's yelling at me <(
                    P337 teh 1337: I'll get it though
                    P337 teh 1337: just a sec
                    P337 teh 1337: AGH.
                    P337 teh 1337: HE'S SCREAMING AND CRAP.
                    Xenofixus88: y
                    P337 teh 1337: I'll get it to you when I come back, like tomorrow. I don't even know why he's yelling
                    P337 teh 1337: AGH
                    P337 teh 1337: GAWD.
                    Xenofixus88: whats wrong man
                    Xenofixus88: are u getting off??
                    P337 teh 1337: SEE YA, IM TELLING EVERYONE ELSE I'M LEAVING
                    P337 teh 1337: I need to man
                    P337 teh 1337: ah jesus
                    P337 teh 1337: later
                    Xenofixus88: ...
                    Xenofixus88: bye
                    Xenofixus88: tommorow
                    Xenofixus88 signed off at 10:16:22 PM.
                    Xenofixus88 signed on at 10:23:43 PM.
                    P337 teh 1337: Alright.
                    Xenofixus88: dancer
                    P337 teh 1337: I'm sorry I had to do that.
                    Xenofixus88: wtf man
                    P337 teh 1337: I DON'T KNOW.
                    Xenofixus88: why did u block me
                    Xenofixus88: wtf is going on
                    P337 teh 1337: I'm trying to figure things out, and it looked like you overreacted to one of my theories.
                    Xenofixus88: dancer
                    P337 teh 1337: Blade told you I was on, so I guess I gotta talk to you.
                    P337 teh 1337: Why did you overreact so much?
                    Xenofixus88: dancer
                    Xenofixus88: u know
                    Xenofixus88: y
                    P337 teh 1337: Don't play dumb, k?
                    P337 teh 1337: ?
                    Xenofixus88: because u looked so much like a wolf
                    Xenofixus88: u and sprehoid
                    P337 teh 1337: Hm....
                    Xenofixus88: i dont know whats going on
                    P337 teh 1337: I don't get it..
                    Xenofixus88: y would sphreoid lie
                    P337 teh 1337: He lied?
                    P337 teh 1337: I don't get it..
                    Xenofixus88: but
                    P337 teh 1337: God this is hard.
                    Xenofixus88: i dont get this
                    Xenofixus88: ur theorie
                    Xenofixus88: where di it come from
                    P337 teh 1337: I wish there was someone I could trust 100% X(
                    Xenofixus88: there never is dancer
                    P337 teh 1337: What do you mean where did it come from? It came from my other theory, remember?
                    P337 teh 1337: Seering, guardianing, there is.
                    Xenofixus88: what
                    Xenofixus88: dancer
                    Xenofixus88: wtf is going on
                    P337 teh 1337: God, I don't know.
                    P337 teh 1337: God, I wish I knew.
                    Xenofixus88: y are u two trying to frame me??
                    P337 teh 1337: We're not.
                    P337 teh 1337: What are you talking about?
                    P337 teh 1337: I was trying to think.
                    Xenofixus88: i dont know
                    P337 teh 1337: Now it's hard, with everyone IMing me.
                    Xenofixus88: but u two are both attackig me from everywher
                    P337 teh 1337: Hang on a sec.
                    P337 teh 1337: He's attacking you?
                    Xenofixus88: yes
                    P337 teh 1337: How?
                    Xenofixus88: dont know
                    Xenofixus88: hes telling so many lies
                    Xenofixus88: im just confused now
                    P337 teh 1337: God, me too, what is he saying?
                    Xenofixus88: AHHH
                    Xenofixus88: im so confused
                    P337 teh 1337: Alright, I think we all need to talk about this.
                    P337 teh 1337: TOGETHER.
                    P337 teh 1337: This is where the jTWG chat comes into play.
                    Xenofixus88: dancer
                    Xenofixus88: wtf is going on
                    P337 teh 1337: I already told you, I know as much as you do.
                    P337 teh 1337: I had suspicions about you, then Spheroid, and now I don't KNOW.
                    Xenofixus88: dancer
                    P337 teh 1337: what?
                    P337 teh 1337: just a sec, my friend and his family is leaving.
                    P337 teh 1337: WAIT.
                    P337 teh 1337: Agh.
                    Xenofixus88: wait
                    P337 teh 1337: ?
                    Xenofixus88: wtf is going on
                    P337 teh 1337: Dude, what are you talking about?
                    Xenofixus88: seriously
                    P337 teh 1337: You tell ME.
                    Xenofixus88: wtf is going on
                    P337 teh 1337: Do you have that copied or what?
                    P337 teh 1337: What do you want from me?
                    P337 teh 1337: I already told you all I know.
                    Xenofixus88: alright
                    P337 teh 1337: And now I'm getting sick of all of this.
                    Xenofixus88: im just thinking outloud
                    P337 teh 1337: ok.
                    P337 teh 1337: I need a break, and Ruroni Kenshin is on.
                    P337 teh 1337: I'm going away for a while, back tomorrow if nothing else.
                    P337 teh 1337: I need to think about all of this.
                    Xenofixus88: wtf
                    Xenofixus88: sphrehoid is saying freak is guardian
                    P337 teh 1337: Yeah.
                    P337 teh 1337: I wasn't telling you everything.
                    P337 teh 1337: But now I'm not sure about ANY of this.
                    P337 teh 1337: I was telling you the truth about THAT.
                    Xenofixus88: wtf
                    Xenofixus88: wtf is this
                    Xenofixus88: their saying i knew freak was guardian
                    P337 teh 1337: Freak IMed me yesterday.
                    Xenofixus88: wtf he told me that blade was
                    Xenofixus88: what did he say
                    P337 teh 1337: Freak TOLD ME that he told you he was the guardian.
                    Xenofixus88: what
                    Xenofixus88: no he didnt
                    P337 teh 1337: He was human, that's been proven.
                    P337 teh 1337: So anything he said can be proven true.
                    P337 teh 1337: I don't get it.
                    P337 teh 1337: But I was telling the truth when I said I was sick of this and I want to watch my show.
                    Xenofixus88: dancer
                    Xenofixus88: hold on
                    P337 teh 1337: What.
                    Xenofixus88: hold on
                    Xenofixus88: where is this coming from
                    P337 teh 1337: Where is what coming from?
                    P337 teh 1337: Specify.
                    Xenofixus88: that freak was guardian
                    Xenofixus88: wtf is this
                    P337 teh 1337: Freak.
                    Xenofixus88: dancer
                    P337 teh 1337: What?
                    Xenofixus88: im so confused
                    P337 teh 1337: I am too, actually.
                    Xenofixus88: dancer
                    Xenofixus88: trust me
                    Xenofixus88: i had no clue freak was a gurdian
                    P337 teh 1337: Trust me, Freak told me you were the guardian, so why would he lie?
                    Xenofixus88: Xenofixus88: blade is guardian right??
                    spheroiddice: yup
                    Xenofixus88: alright ill post
                    Xenofixus88: if u really think he is okay
                    Xenofixus88: u seered him right
                    spheroiddice: yup
                    Xenofixus88: okay

                    Xenofixus88: y would any of them lie
                    Xenofixus88: i dont know
                    Xenofixus88: but im gettinframed
                    P337 teh 1337: Freak would NOT lie.
                    Xenofixus88: y is everyone lieing to me
                    P337 teh 1337: Because Spheroid seered me.
                    P337 teh 1337: That's how this all started.
                    Xenofixus88: ??
                    Xenofixus88: wtf is going on
                    P337 teh 1337: Yesterday.
                    P337 teh 1337: Spheroid seer'd me, and the only ones that knew Freak was the guardian were me, Spheroid, Freak (obviously), and you.
                    Xenofixus88: i didnt know
                    Xenofixus88: look
                    P337 teh 1337: How did you not know?
                    Xenofixus88: freak never told me
                    Xenofixus88: sphrehoid lied to me
                    Xenofixus88: saying that blade was the gaurdian
                    P337 teh 1337: That's because it was a ploy for the wolves.
                    Xenofixus88: wolves
                    Xenofixus88: what u mean
                    P337 teh 1337: Wolves kill Spheroid next night, Freak guardians, alliance builds.
                    Xenofixus88: huh
                    Xenofixus88: dancer ur making no sense
                    P337 teh 1337: How?
                    P337 teh 1337: Tell me.
                    Xenofixus88: freak is guardian??
                    Xenofixus88: ur not lieing
                    P337 teh 1337: I'm not lying.
                    Xenofixus88: freak is guardian
                    P337 teh 1337: Freak was guardian ='[
                    Xenofixus88: ....
                    Xenofixus88: dancer
                    P337 teh 1337: What?
                    Xenofixus88: do not lie to me
                    Xenofixus88: what is going on
                    P337 teh 1337: That is what's going on.
                    P337 teh 1337: This is the truth.
                    P337 teh 1337: Why would I lie about THIS?
                    P337 teh 1337: Think about it, why would Freak, being seered, lie to ME, being seered?
                    Xenofixus88: was freak seered
                    Xenofixus88: cause sphrehoid said that blade was seered
                    P337 teh 1337: Blade wasn't seered, you know all of this, don't give me crap ;D
                    Xenofixus88: wtf
                    Xenofixus88: u mean i know all of this
                    P337 teh 1337: Freak told me you were in the plan.
                    Xenofixus88: what
                    Xenofixus88: what plan are u speaking of
                    P337 teh 1337: You're the only person that would know.
                    P337 teh 1337: The plan about Blade being the fake guardian, wolves killing Spheroid, etc.
                    Xenofixus88: what
                    Xenofixus88: there is a plan behind this
                    P337 teh 1337: Slacky.
                    Xenofixus88: dancer
                    P337 teh 1337: SLACKY.
                    P337 teh 1337: Don't give me crap, it'll dig yourself deeper into a hole.
                    P337 teh 1337: There's only two possibilities.
                    P337 teh 1337: If this is Spheroid's plot, it's way too deep, I don't get it.
                    P337 teh 1337: Alright, so what are you going to say?
                    P337 teh 1337: I want to know what TRUTH you have to say to this.
                    P337 teh 1337: But Spheroid could be a wolf.
                    Xenofixus88: i dont know
                    Xenofixus88: seriously dancer
                    Xenofixus88: i dont know what is going on
                    P337 teh 1337: Ok, first off.
                    P337 teh 1337: I am NOT a wolf, I want you to know that.
                    Xenofixus88: dancer
                    P337 teh 1337: Now there's really only two possibilities.
                    P337 teh 1337: Now think, how could Spheroid do all of this?
                    P337 teh 1337: If you can prove yourself human, you need to now.
                    Xenofixus88: dancer
                    Xenofixus88: im going to give it to u straight
                    P337 teh 1337: Ok.
                    Xenofixus88: sphrehoid
                    Xenofixus88: and freak
                    Xenofixus88: told me blade was guardian
                    P337 teh 1337: I know that.
                    Xenofixus88: okay
                    Xenofixus88: i didnt know freak
                    Xenofixus88: then freak
                    Xenofixus88: gets me into an alliance with these other guys
                    P337 teh 1337: k
                    Xenofixus88: then now
                    Xenofixus88: u guys are attacking me
                    Xenofixus88: for stuffi dont even know
                    Xenofixus88: u did lie
                    Xenofixus88: u know more then i did
                    Xenofixus88: cause i do nothing but lies from them
                    P337 teh 1337: I did lie, I did know more than you did, but I thought I had evidence, now I'm not sure.
                    P337 teh 1337: This is all the truth.
                    P337 teh 1337: But here's what I don't understand.
                    P337 teh 1337: Give me the truth, or you'll die, you can be sure of that.
                    P337 teh 1337: Freak told you he was the guardian.
                    Xenofixus88: NO
                    Xenofixus88: HE DID NOT
                    Xenofixus88: what do i got to get that into UR HEAD
                    Xenofixus88: THEY TOLD ME IT WAS BLADE
                    P337 teh 1337: Then why would Freak tell me that?
                    Xenofixus88: WTF IS GOING ON
                    P337 teh 1337: Then he told you otherwise.
                    P337 teh 1337: Freak was human.
                    P337 teh 1337: He would not lie about this.
                    Xenofixus88: dancer
                    Xenofixus88: wtf is going on
                    Xenofixus88: FREAK DID NOT TELL ME
                    P337 teh 1337: How did Freak not tell you?
                    Xenofixus88: ...
                    Xenofixus88: he told me
                    P337 teh 1337: Take a look at this, just a second.
                    Xenofixus88: blade was guardian
                    P337 teh 1337: Why would Freak pull a fake guardian role as a human?
                    P337 teh 1337: Tell me this.
                    Xenofixus88: no
                    Xenofixus88: u tell me
                    Xenofixus88: u know more then i
                    P337 teh 1337: Think about it.
                    P337 teh 1337: There would be no reason for Freak to lie.
                    Xenofixus88: i dont trust u
                    Xenofixus88: i dont know what is going on
                    Xenofixus88: freak did not tell me
                    P337 teh 1337: Slacky.
                    P337 teh 1337: Freak would not lie.
                    Xenofixus88: BUT U WOULD
                    P337 teh 1337: If you're still lying, stop.
                    P337 teh 1337: But Freak TOLD ME.
                    Xenofixus88: told u what
                    P337 teh 1337: That he told you.
                    Xenofixus88: cause he did not tell me
                    P337 teh 1337: Tell me this, too.
                    P337 teh 1337: If Spheroid had me and Freak hooked on an alliance, why would he go and kill Freak?
                    Xenofixus88: because
                    Xenofixus88: when u get in an alliance
                    Xenofixus88: they might get to close
                    Xenofixus88: wolves would want to make people believe they are in an alliance
                    P337 teh 1337: Yeah, but then he would keep the alliance going.
                    P337 teh 1337: There was no reason for him to kill Freak.
                    P337 teh 1337: He could kill me, then you, then someone else, etc.
                    P337 teh 1337: But he would not kill Freak, then there would be no traces to him.
                    Xenofixus88: then ask urself this
                    Xenofixus88: if i was wolf y would i fall into such an easy trap
                    Xenofixus88: theres someone behind this
                    P337 teh 1337: How is it an easy trap?
                    Xenofixus88: look
                    Xenofixus88: if i knew freak was guardian
                    Xenofixus88: and i knew sprehoid was told i know then why would i kill him
                    Xenofixus88: that would easily give myself away
                    P337 teh 1337: omg
                    P337 teh 1337: you're right.
                    Xenofixus88: Y
                    Xenofixus88: ask urself
                    Xenofixus88: dancer do u think im stupid
                    P337 teh 1337: But that doesn't explain Freak.
                    P337 teh 1337: Do you think I'm stupid?
                    Xenofixus88: no
                    Xenofixus88: i told u before
                    Xenofixus88: ur one of the smartest jtwg players ive ever seen
                    Xenofixus88: ur going to be a better twg player then i will be
                    P337 teh 1337: Do you think Freak would pull something on ME, that doesn't make sense..
                    Xenofixus88: dancer
                    Xenofixus88: THATS WHAT UR ALL DOING TO ME
                    P337 teh 1337: k, but none of that right now ;D
                    Xenofixus88: dancer
                    Xenofixus88: y
                    Xenofixus88: y y y
                    P337 teh 1337: Because Freak told me.
                    Xenofixus88: dancer
                    Xenofixus88: someone is behind this
                    Xenofixus88: wtf
                    P337 teh 1337: Alright, I'm going to come out with it.
                    P337 teh 1337: I think you are.
                    Xenofixus88: are what??
                    P337 teh 1337: Behind this, think about it.
                    P337 teh 1337: Freak had to have told you, he would not let it fall apart like this.
                    Xenofixus88: dancer
                    Xenofixus88: he did not tell me
                    Xenofixus88: they told me blade
                    Xenofixus88: read spheroid post
                    Xenofixus88: it proves id idnt know
                    Xenofixus88: they told me blade was guardian
                    Xenofixus88: look
                    P337 teh 1337: They told you Blade was guardian.
                    Xenofixus88: yes
                    P337 teh 1337: Then Freak told you the truth.
                    Xenofixus88: nope

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                    • daniel_lewis20
                      FFR Player
                      • Feb 2005
                      • 178

                      #55
                      RE: Re: RE: jTWG III - Locked in the middle of Nowhere - Nig

                      Ok, after talking to both slacky and danceguy, here's what I think about this whole convo conviction. I know Freak personally and I know the way he plays his strategies, he carefully plans them and plots them out carefully. Plus I have proof of an alliance between him and three other humans. Now Freak wouldn't come directly out and tell people he was the guardian unless he trusted them enough to tell them. Now, those in the alliance knew that he was a human, nothing more, and he probably wanted to keep it that way. Now on to my suspicions, after reading slacky's convo with spheroid, I think Slacky's more confused if anything because we all thought blade was the guardian. Now why wouldn't the wolves go after Spheroid instead of Freak unless they were playing smart strategy trying to find the special roled humans. Now that leaves me to suspect Spheroid more then Slacky. Why wouldn't Freak tell any of his other alliance members that Spheroid was in on it unless he suspected him. I find it really hard to believe that Freak would blame someone who he trusted and who he's known for most of his life. Until someone comes out with better evidence than little bits of convos that could easily be manipulated into bandwagoning on one individual, then I'm not convinced. I'll vote tomorrow once I contact a couple of Freak's alliance members and find out what the heck is going on

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                      • dAnceguy117
                        new hand moves = dab
                        FFR Simfile Author
                        • Dec 2002
                        • 10103

                        #56
                        RE: Re: RE: jTWG III - Locked in the middle of Nowhere - Nig

                        More. I'm talking to Slacky, that wasn't the whole convo, that was just what I wanted to prove my point. Sorry for any misunderstandings, Slacky has been acting much better in the latter half.

                        We need to figure this out. Other input would help.

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                        • Spheroid
                          FFR Player
                          • Jan 2005
                          • 412

                          #57
                          RE: Re: RE: jTWG III - Locked in the middle of Nowhere - Nig

                          The alliance members. Freak, me (spheroid), Danceguy, slacky

                          These are all of the people that took part in the plan at different points. I seered danceguy yesterday. We were never sure on slacky. He did what we needed him to do, but he was the only one were weren't 100% sure on. We had to rely on him. As you'll see in a later post of mine, I tried to get beefstu to do the work, but failed. Slacky the person freak could dare to trust the most. He had told freak that he was the psychic last game. Slacky's the only one who would've known the smartest person to kill was freak. Next, I'll also post the convo between the alliance minus slacky
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                          • Freak83
                            FFR Simfile Author
                            FFR Simfile Author
                            • Feb 2003
                            • 3281

                            #58
                            RE: Re: RE: jTWG III - Locked in the middle of Nowhere - Nig

                            ugh.... I seem to have bad luck with early deaths. Well at least I got to do something this game.

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                            • Spheroid
                              FFR Player
                              • Jan 2005
                              • 412

                              #59
                              RE: Re: RE: jTWG III - Locked in the middle of Nowhere - Nig

                              I posted four different convos, gamepro

                              Beefstu, if you want to know why I wasn't wolfed, read my other four posts before yours. It clearly explains that freak was the gaurdian gaurding me, and that our accomplice, slacky, was actually a wolf, and got them to kill freak so they could kill me tonight. The point of the whole plan before was to have them try to kill me, and fail because freak was gaurding me. Because the wolves knew the whole plan, they knew they had to kill freak first, then me. If you still deny this, it is even more proof that both you and slacky are wolves. A wolf would never vote for another wolf

                              I forgot, here's my evidence on beefstu. It's not for sure, it just made me suspect him.

                              This is what I really consider my noob error. I almost messed up the entire plan by getting someone involved you didn't need to be. Here's the questionable converasation with beefstu:

                              Beef Stu 980: Hello.
                              spheroiddice: hey
                              Beef Stu 980: How's jTWGIII going for you so far?
                              spheroiddice: pretty good, I haven't really been able to do anything yet.
                              spheroiddice: so, are you a wolf or human?
                              Beef Stu 980: I am a human.
                              Beef Stu 980: Have you talked to many of the other players yet?>
                              spheroiddice: no
                              spheroiddice: have you?
                              Beef Stu 980: Not really. I've just managed to say "Hi" to maybe half of them.
                              spheroiddice: get any clues from them? maybe post a few of the chats
                              Beef Stu 980: I've got nothing so far.
                              Beef Stu 980: babybenji2004 claims to be human, however.
                              Beef Stu 980: I guess no-one would claim to be a wolf, though.
                              spheroiddice: people just ask because they have nothing better to say.
                              Beef Stu 980: Do you have a special role?
                              spheroiddice: yeah, seer
                              Beef Stu 980: Neat-o.
                              Beef Stu 980: Who did you See last night?
                              spheroiddice: sorry, got caught up in an argument with my mom. Ironically, I saw blademonkey
                              spheroiddice: sad story, he was the gaurdian
                              Beef Stu 980: Well, crap.
                              spheroiddice: wait, plan:
                              spheroiddice: this will prove you're human. Go on the forum and post something like "OMG, I heard that blademonkey was the gaurdian. We're screwed!"
                              spheroiddice: hello, please respond.
                              Beef Stu 980: How will that prove I'm human?
                              spheroiddice: you'll see. I told someone to back you up after you post.
                              Beef Stu 980: I don't think I'm trusting enough for this plan.
                              Beef Stu 980: Who's this "someone"?
                              spheroiddice: if your a wolf, you'd wolf him
                              Beef Stu 980: I'm not a wolf.
                              spheroiddice: k, it's slacky
                              spheroiddice: u going to post it?
                              Beef Stu 980: I'm thinking over it.
                              spheroiddice: ok
                              Beef Stu 980: Is there a jTWG chat going on?
                              spheroiddice: try to make up your mind. I have to leave soon, and I need to make sure this gets posted
                              spheroiddice: dunno
                              Beef Stu 980: I'm not going to.
                              spheroiddice: y
                              Beef Stu 980: I don't want to make the first post. :-\
                              spheroiddice: will you if someone else makes a post before hadn?
                              spheroiddice: *hand
                              Beef Stu 980: Sure.
                              spheroiddice: k, i'll convince someone else to post something.
                              spheroiddice: k, slacky's probably going to post something. After that, back him up on the line (make sure it sounds like the same story). If someone else makes the first post, just do what was planned earlier
                              spheroiddice: r u still on
                              Beef Stu 980: I'm here.
                              spheroiddice: I just was looking over the post, if you saw, Freak already said somthing
                              spheroiddice: so can you make the post?
                              Beef Stu 980 is away at 6:47:46 PM.
                              Beef Stu 980 returned at 7:02:21 PM.
                              spheroiddice: an answer would be nice
                              Beef Stu 980: Sorry; I'm a bit busy right now. I'll make a post as soon as I can. Shouldn't be too long.
                              Beef Stu 980 is away at 7:11:22 PM.

                              This is an odd chat. There's a ton of things that don't make sense. I was trying to sell him on the plan I mentioned above without telling too much. I think he's a wolf mainly cause he didn't argue a few points I made that didn't make sence. One, when I said "if your a wolf, you'd wolf him" he just said he wasn't a wolf. He didin't even question why he'd wolf slacky if he was a wolf in that context. Two, he logged off or didn't respond when I asked him if he'd make the post. During the convo, this was very annoying. Three, i have trouble explaining this one, but the intelligent should get it. He didn't question my statement "this will prove your human" very much.

                              I think it can be concluded from all this that beefstu is either a wolf, or a noob not worth much to the team. When I am gone, by murder or lyniching, and if you are ever in doubt over who to kill, beefstu should be a good choice, cause he's not worth either much to us any way we put it.

                              If you have anything for or against beefstu, please post it. I'm nowhere near sure that beefstu is actually (a) a wolf, or (b) a noobish player.
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                              • daniel_lewis20
                                FFR Player
                                • Feb 2005
                                • 178

                                #60
                                RE: Re: RE: jTWG III - Locked in the middle of Nowhere - Nig

                                Hate to break this to you Spheroid, but the only alliance Freak told me about was the alliance that he made himself, which he had told me every member that was in it and it didn't include you. Freak doens't trust that easily, nor do I. You have absolutely no proof of Freak's accusations, only that you and danceguy are in some conspiracy to get Slcky lynched. Therefore, it's making danceguy and yourself look more like wolves if anything.

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