TWG Turbo 41: Trust Fall! [POSTGAME Thread]

**ShadoWolfe** · 05-20-2026, 02:30 PM

TWG Turbo 41: Trust Fall! Postgame Comments

Result: Town wins
MVP: the sun fan
Honorable mention: Charu

Links to chats:

link to deadchat
link to wolfchat

Player List

1. Hakulyte - Vanilla Townie. Left with mellon_collie. (4th pair, offered)
2. Charmoeleon - Vanilla Townie. Left with Charu. (3rd pair, reciprocated)
3. DucDucGoos Charu - Vanilla Townie. Left with Charmoeleon. (3rd pair, offered)
4. mellon_collie - Vanilla Townie. Left with Hakulyte. (4th pair, reciprocated)
5. roundbox - Vanilla Werewolf. Lost at Endgame.
6. Shadow_God_10 - Vanilla Werewolf. Left with FreezinIce. (1st pair, reciprocated)
7. Galaxink - Vanilla Townie. Left with the sun fan. (2nd pair, offered)
8. FreezinIce - Vanilla Townie. Left with Shadow_God_10. (1st pair, offered)
9. MixMasterLar - Vanilla Townie. Won at Endgame.
10. the sun fan - Vanilla Townie. Left with Galaxink. (2nd pair, reciprocated)

Analysis:

This was a very different twist on TWG, and it played out more intensely than I expected from the setup. The idea behind this game was hammering home the strengths and weaknesses of building a town circle and trusting your towns. Learning when and how to lock someone town and understanding how far you can take that read (and when it stops) is essential for good town play, but it can be catastrophic if used wrong.

FreezinIce:

You were the player that took the idea of the game most to heart at first and I liked the direction you were taking town, so thank you. Then, suddenly, you got lost in your own sauce, lost the plot, and LEAPT. It sucks that there wasn't a softer landing for you or for anyone else (other than Lewdy) but enough said. You already know to be careful building town circles. The spike drove that point home more than these words ever could have :P

Lewdy (shadow_god_10):

I'm glad you joined and it seemed like you had a blast and you honestly made the game funner to read as an outside observer. You kept the mood light and that was nice. Now, you kept saying you learned a lot this game so I won't rehash much of what's already been said. We had a lot of conversations and there were a lot of good takeaways, but the one I want to hammer home is that, at the end of the day, TWG is nothing more than an information game. As a wolf, you have all the information, which means that every post you make leaves breadcrumbs that future towns can analyze. Every action (or lack of action) you take will be looked at with a "why", especially after you flip. Those breadcrumbs are the cost of playing, and make up the entire meal for the uninformed town players that are piecing together the information you leave behind. Sometimes that cost can be worth it for a big play. For example, if you really wanted to take out Haku and get rid of a mechanically cleared player, that would be a play that could be justifiable in certain contexts. More often than not, though, the optimal move if you have a mechanical out is to take it without leaving any further information. "Anything you say can and will be used against you." With all that said, you did a great job staying confident in the face of suspicion, so keep on keeping on!

Galaxink:

Thank you for joining. We had talked a lot before the game about the concept of analyzing posts for genuineness in mindset and approach, forced posts, contrived thoughts, and about how keeping the idea of being 100% genuine in every post helps you both project town and find other towns (and not-towns). I know I mentioned the concept that a single post can be enough to determine if someone is a wolf or not, but I didn't expect you to take that concept and LEAP with it. Little did you know you were leaping towards trusting the person arguably least deserving of trust in FFRTWG (lol). It was definitely a massive risk that could have potentially ended game in a Lewdy/sunfan world and I hope that lessons can be learned in factoring that in before fully leaping next time. As for this time, whether it was luck or skill remains to be seen but your ability to read sunfan as town, act decisively on that read, and project enough towniness in a small handful of posts was well done. Come back and play more.

the sun fan:

You were the player that most stabilized town in midgame and most set the course for a successful town turnaround victory. You were the first and only player to call out Lewdy for wolfing, your trust fall with Galaxink made safe a valuable town slot that was undoubtedly going to get a lot of heat, and your reads at the end not only concluded correctly, but also protected Charmoeleon and urged town not to reconsider. Your PoE of DucDucGoos and Roundbox would've won game, and your calls overall were extremely accurate, save one. After playing it out every which way, the way you quickly trusted Lewdy for not immediately pulling the trigger on accepting Freezin's offer could have ended badly for town had he used that new town cred to exit with you (per your offer) or Hakulyte (who seemed open to it). There are a lot of downsides for wolves with that strategy, so while the danger in the possibility deserves mention, it should not detract from your stellar performance this game. You earned MVP solidly.

DucDucGoos:

Thank you for giving the game a try. TWG is the type of game where your world directly bashes heads with other people's worlds, and I think it's hard to prepare for that level of confrontation and emotional demand without experiencing it yourself. Being a new player in a game full of people with 10+ years of experience is hard and, while I'm not sure you'll ever read this, I do take some personal responsibility for not preparing either you or Galaxink nearly sufficiently before you were both thrown in the deep end. Star-crossed made a helpful guide for new players, but I didn't even know it existed until after you had already replaced out. Despite that and despite minimal instruction about, you did well in projecting town even while having a hard time finding wolves. In games like these, though, resilience is half the battle and I think the pressure of the game + social anxiety made it not a fun experience. I don't know if it's still up somewhere, but when I first joined this community, one of the TWG rules threads used to have a content warning about how mentally crushing and emotionally intense this game can get, and it definitely isn't for everyone. I'm sure I speak on behalf of everyone that we're always glad to have a new player give it a try, even if it ends up that they don't enjoy it. Thanks for playing, and I hope you come back again sometime!

Charu:

Thank you so much for replacing in. It was an extremely critical moment in the game when you subbed in, and you shone. You quickly got the grasp of the game, the players, and read the room correctly. You paid attention to dead town's (sunfan's) reads, which is a rare virtue we rarely see anymore, and correctly reached the optimal conclusion for what you could do in the position you were put in. Refusing to Trust Fall with the cleared townie to instead escort out what you clearly saw was a town player under heavy suspicion was an incredibly bold and ideal move for the situation. Prior to your Trust Fall with Charmoeleon, town was fragmented and the remaining wolf was begninning to gain ground. Falling with Toko put town exactly where they needed to be to bring home the win, and put wolves in an extremely unfavorable position. In this setup, with one mechanically cleared townie that the other two townies could revolve around, town's chances of winning are immensely higher than if you had taken the easy route out and accepted the trust fall offered by Hakulyte. I don't know that town gets to the end result they got without the clarity you brought to an otherwise murky F6. This effort would ordinarily win you MVP, but in this case it was just barely enveiled by two things: The first is sunfan's stellar performance that allowed that game state to exist in the first place, and the second is the underlying truth that it was only through Haku's frankly inexplicable trust offer to DucDucGoos' slot shortly after you replaced in that you were given the "cleared town" platform that allowed you the freedom to do all that you did without being under attack.

Tokomi (Charmoeleon):

Welcome formally to the FFR TWG community. You know pretty much everyone here and have for quite a while, but it's good to have you playing with us. You performed extremely well for your first game, despite being thrown in the deep end with a bunch of sweaty nerds who've been all doing this for over a decade at minimum. I want to commend you for trying to steer town initially to less shitposting and more game related talk with your reads list. You saw (and learned) that sometimes being the one to do that can be viewed as "unnatural", "forced", "fake", or "contrived". You also saw how often re-evaluation was necessary and how even our most sure reads can blow up in our faces and be flat out wrong. But that's actually what I want to commend you for the most. When pushed to the wall mentally and emotionally, you clearly communicated your frustration and that you were feeling all those negative emotions you did not expect to feel, because it isn't until we play this game that we truly know what it's like to have 10 people in our face yelling at us that we're LIARS and FAKE and that our READS ARE BAD and that there's NO WAY the thought process we just burned our hearts trying to express could be REAL... It doesn't always happen, and TWG can definitely be played without it happening, but it comes with the territory and it feels awful when it does happen. But again, resilience is half the battle. You showed the mental fortitude it took to come back after an extremely rough night and write one of the most genuine soul-revealing posts of the game. Your ability to project town in that moment was one of the defining moments that was able to turn the game against wolves, and the Trust Fall exit with Charu was exactly the ending you deserved in this game. Thanks for joining, and I hope to play with you in game next time.

Raeko (mellon_collie):

You played a really clean game, despite the issue with timing and IRL conflicts. Your reads were solid from start to finish, you practiced caution and advised caution (to Galaxink, to Charu, and in general), and you were never the source of any misdirection that hurt town. You didn't make any major mistakes and you kept your head cool in a game that got emotionally charged at multiple points. It was only you and Charu that were able to pivot and accept Tokomi was town after that post, so you brought a balance to the thread that was badly needed in the chaos. In F4, when every advice to the clear town mattered, you were able to coalesce with MML against Roundbox, who was shooting his last shot at gaining Haku's trust. That balance you brought start to finish allowed Haku to be able to comfortably trust you at the end, and enabled a clean finish to an otherwise chaotic game. Good game!

roundbox:

From the moment you entered to the time game was over, you were in a tough spot. You weren't necessarily under suspicion and were able to fly under the radar a lot of the time, but having a 3 day delay in getting your thread presence established and your read progressions going definitely didn't work in your favor. Lewdy's decision to stay in the game left a trail to you, despite his insistence otherwise, that each key town player caught afterwards in succession, from sunfan to charu to eventually MML and Hakulyte. You began gaining ground in F6 and had a real shot of changing the narrative then and there, but Haku trusting Charu and the subsequent Charu analysis kind of steamrolled the progress you'd been making, and all of these together made the path to a wolf win a difficult one despite the fact that wolves exited game first. Overall you played well, kept your cool, but I think your WIM disappeared after Charu fell with Charmoeleon because your posts in F4 just seemed deflated and a little unnatural. Good game overall, and thanks for joining despite the schedule conflicts.

MixMasterLar:

You brought some real energy and engagement to the game, both during the shitposting phase in the beginning and then carried it into actual reads and analysis. Unfortunately, after the Sunfan/Galaxink flip, your energy was misdirected. You tunneled hard on Charmoeleon and it wasn't the right read, and the way you engaged with him during that stretch was part of what made that period of the game so emotionally charged. I know this is TWG, but it resulted in... tenseness, to put it mildly, that could've really impacted a new player's first experience with TWG. After Charu and Charmoeleon fell together though, you reassessed quickly and came to the correct conclusion, which highlighted your analytical ability and willingness to pivot. Your advice to Haku in F4 helped lead him to the final wolf, and that was well played on your part and that of town. What I do want to call out specifically though is this post you made during Charmoeleon's emotionally rougher patch:

Damn I'm stuck on a call watching someone get angry in thread and my hands are too tied to really engage

Feels like settling at the buffet and then when you walk out they bring all the good specials back to back and you can't go in and indulge

Look, we used to sling shit and get pissed and have meltdowns and flip thread in all sorts of intense battles back in a wilder time and we've both moved way past that, so I think we can both agree that that mindset brought little to the table, neither for the sake of solving or the sake of fun. I know that the emotional intensity that players bring to this game more than just comes with the territory, it's part of what makes it real and raw and compelling. With that said, treating someone's genuine frustration as a spectacle you're disappointed to be missing out on is not a good look. TWG is a game that gets under people's skin and that's part of its nature, but the community is better when we meet those moments with empathy rather than appetite. The quality of your play is undercut when it comes packaged with that kind of energy, and you are absolutely good enough at this game to not need the crutch of egging it on or ragebaiting to produce reads. In my first game on FFRTWG, you were the one I talked to most in OOTC and the one I bounced every idea off of, and that means a lot to me. Looking forward to actually playing with you next time instead of just hosting.

Hakulyte:

You brought this one home successfully. I hope you liked my flavor posts, they were written from the heart

It was good seeing you get such a solid W as town. It's hard to fight the endless possibilities and tinfoil worlds we create, but you did a great job reassessing and reanalyzing and staying within reason in the source of your reads. Your re-reading of thread in F4 and the conclusions it brought were excellent, and your ability to constantly accept the new information as it came and build it into your reads was top notch. You should be proud of your game. It was a good one. Declining Roundbox and going for Raeko was the right move, and it brought home a win despite the intense pressure you were under as the final decision maker in such a tense game. Great job, and I stand by what I wrote in the last line of the last flavor post. This time, you were reading the right pages, and it feels good to see and felt good to be a part of.

**the sun fan** · 05-20-2026, 03:38 PM

I like this setup. It is neat, no one feels bad about being killed, and it can heavily punish town for being too lax. There's also some really neat mechanics with trust falls either confirmed or not confirming someone as town.
I also fucking hate this setup and think that it is more likely than any other to cause emotional conflict.
I think this has potential to get run again sometime for sure.

I would like to see some shorter day phases in a turbo next time, maybe even require it tbqh. This was basically a real game of TWG in terms of length, when turbos are supposed to be the palate cleanser in between games.
I would also like to see the game just immediately end if the last wolf gets a trust offer (which Shado said he would've enforced this game anyways but it would be nice to have that just be clear).

A potentially neat idea is having any trust offers that are on the table get wiped after each checkpoint. If Toko would've actually been able to stop freezin/lewdy from falling with one another by proposing to Haku, that would've been super hype (not sure Haku accepts, but that's cool, too).

That being said, this game is a rare testament to town's ability to rethink things, and while I know it wasn't intentional or done with an ounce of malice, I am glad that the wolves lost after they (unintentionally) slow-rolled.

**Shadow_God_10** · 05-20-2026, 04:34 PM

First of all, I would like to say thank you SO much to ShadoWolfe for hosting such an amazing game. This was a great way for me to dip my toes back into TWG and play with you all again (I know I said a few times in deadchat) but I did miss you all very much.

Secondly, I will NEVER throw shade at Roundbox as his wolf partner. Homie came SO CLOSE to getting us the win. IRL shit happens, and it fell on my shoulders to hold the fort down until he was locked in and ready. I think I did the best I could with what I had and learned many new things (slow rolling, and anti-spew being among the two) as I was flying by the seat of my pants!

Thirdly, and I do believe this requires a separate mention: SHOUTOUTS TO THE NEW PLAYERS WHO JOINED US! If not for you, we'd still be waiting to PLAY this game. Thank you to Tokomi, Gal, and Ducduc! Please feel free to sign up for future games! You guys were amazing.

Overall, I would say 10/10 in terms of enjoyment! I would be so happy to sign up for another game like this again

**Charmoeleon** · 05-20-2026, 05:07 PM

Thank you to everyone for making my first TWG game an experience I'll honestly never forget. Both good times and bad times were had while playing this, but obviously that's all part of the game. Now that I've actually played instead of just watching from the sidelines, I have so much respect for not only the game but for everyone that continues to play it.

To Lewdy and roundbox, I have no hard feelings. You were doing what you needed to in order to win (even if that Lewdy slow roll really fucked me over unnecessarily), and I can't fault you two for that. Good game.

Obviously, I have to shoutout sun for his reads post before he left. The fact that we were arguing over whether it was something worth doing near the start, only for you to do so and have your post as my lifeline late in the game, is a level of irony that is not lost on me. Trusting in your judgement was essential, especially in my position after the Haku trust fall offer. If Charu hadn't come in and helped me back onto my feet after my emotional outbursts, I continue to insist on being left with roundbox simply because of you.

Charu, you were legitimately my savior in this game, lol. Thank you for risking the game for my sake. I more than likely don't have a positive impression of TWG if I just sit and cry in my corner until the game ends, so I appreciate that a lot. And thank you to raeko for also starting to believe in me around the same time as well.

Haku, I also want to say that I have no hard feelings towards you either. You saw your truth and you stuck to it, and I respect the hell out of that. Just... maybe give new players a little bit more grace in the future, yeah? :P

Finally, I just want to thank you guys for thinking so highly of my play that I wound up being considered a wolf for a good majority of the time. I get that there's an equal part of that which is just paranoia and fear of the unknown, but no one here handled me with kiddie gloves, which is what I was hoping for coming in. As someone who entered this game looking for a true TWG experience, I definitely feel like I got it.

I don't plan on playing in the next game, but I will be back. TWG is such a unique beast, and I look forward to my next one (but I'm not gonna build it up in my head like this time!).

**XelNya** · 05-20-2026, 07:13 PM

Originally posted by Shadow_God_10

First of all, I would like to say thank you SO much to ShadoWolfe for hosting such an amazing game. This was a great way for me to dip my toes back into TWG and play with you all again (I know I said a few times in deadchat) but I did miss you all very much.

Secondly, I will NEVER throw shade at Roundbox as his wolf partner. Homie came SO CLOSE to getting us the win. IRL shit happens, and it fell on my shoulders to hold the fort down until he was locked in and ready. I think I did the best I could with what I had and learned many new things (slow rolling, and anti-spew being among the two) as I was flying by the seat of my pants!

Thirdly, and I do believe this requires a separate mention: SHOUTOUTS TO THE NEW PLAYERS WHO JOINED US! If not for you, we'd still be waiting to PLAY this game. Thank you to Tokomi, Gal, and Ducduc! Please feel free to sign up for future games! You guys were amazing.

Overall, I would say 10/10 in terms of enjoyment! I would be so happy to sign up for another game like this again

Be us, roll wolf first game back in a while, how fitting.

**FreezinIce** · 05-20-2026, 08:07 PM

I said my piece already in the game thread but good job everyone, that was a fun game to both play and watch.

S L O W R O L L E R

**mellon_collie** · 05-20-2026, 08:30 PM

GG everybody!!

I also really enjoyed this setup and would play it again

I agree with sunfan's ideas re: shorter day phases and wiping the trust offers after checkpoints. Even if this wasn't supposed to be a turbo I think a shorter day phase/time crunch just works for this sort of setup

**MixMasterLar** · 05-20-2026, 09:27 PM

What a rollercoaster that was. Special shout outs to SunFan for making sure we were on the right path and Charu for doubling down and making the call that enabled Haku to come in and win it for us. Those two are absolutely tied for MVP worthiness in my book

Anyway, sorry there were so many times I thread where I said I would be back and do xyz, but then life kept getting in my way. I have a few IRL projects I am trying to work on and I've also been preoccupied with my day job and getting that promotion (which btw, yesterday I was told I was approved for it MSR V baby---any more and I'll be too high up to take regular phone calls)

It was a fun experience but I won't lie, I don't think I would be interested in this set up without some major tweaks to it. Ending the round when someone offers trust to a wolf automatically is a good suggestion, and I think I can get behind shorter phases as well.

**benguino** · 05-20-2026, 10:33 PM

I think this was my first game that I watched all the way through (while not being in it), thanks y'all for the entertainment. I was very happy to see Charmoeleon do as well as he did for his first game.

**Shadow_God_10** · 05-20-2026, 11:42 PM

Originally posted by FreezinIce

I said my piece already in the game thread but good job everyone, that was a fun game to both play and watch.

S L O W R O L L E R

WINK WONK!

I just wanted to play with Raerae and Roundbox longer!

**Velocity** · 05-21-2026, 02:38 AM

Sorry about the forum issues due to the apparently yolo change over we did. I tweaked some settings so hopefully post in TWG shouldn't get moderated anymore, but do PM me if it happens again.

I have so much to fix, ugh.

**star-crossed** · 05-21-2026, 03:21 AM

Originally posted by Charmoeleon

Thank you to everyone for making my first TWG game an experience I'll honestly never forget. Both good times and bad times were had while playing this, but obviously that's all part of the game. Now that I've actually played instead of just watching from the sidelines, I have so much respect for not only the game but for everyone that continues to play it.

To Lewdy and roundbox, I have no hard feelings. You were doing what you needed to in order to win (even if that Lewdy slow roll really fucked me over unnecessarily), and I can't fault you two for that. Good game.

Obviously, I have to shoutout sun for his reads post before he left. The fact that we were arguing over whether it was something worth doing near the start, only for you to do so and have your post as my lifeline late in the game, is a level of irony that is not lost on me. Trusting in your judgement was essential, especially in my position after the Haku trust fall offer. If Charu hadn't come in and helped me back onto my feet after my emotional outbursts, I continue to insist on being left with roundbox simply because of you.

Charu, you were legitimately my savior in this game, lol. Thank you for risking the game for my sake. I more than likely don't have a positive impression of TWG if I just sit and cry in my corner until the game ends, so I appreciate that a lot. And thank you to raeko for also starting to believe in me around the same time as well.

Haku, I also want to say that I have no hard feelings towards you either. You saw your truth and you stuck to it, and I respect the hell out of that. Just... maybe give new players a little bit more grace in the future, yeah? :P

Finally, I just want to thank you guys for thinking so highly of my play that I wound up being considered a wolf for a good majority of the time. I get that there's an equal part of that which is just paranoia and fear of the unknown, but no one here handled me with kiddie gloves, which is what I was hoping for coming in. As someone who entered this game looking for a true TWG experience, I definitely feel like I got it.

I don't plan on playing in the next game, but I will be back. TWG is such a unique beast, and I look forward to my next one (but I'm not gonna build it up in my head like this time!).

Hello Charm, I was reading the game in case a replacement was needed late into it. I also had a background with ToS and similar things before I ended up playing here, is I guess part of what made me want to give you my perspective, which you can absolutely take or leave.

I was reading you as town as soon as you initiated the trust fall and that did not change after that. That being said, I do think that how you were engaging with the game does show that you have a decent understanding of social deduction games and how to engage analytically; you were not engaging like a "kid" and so it wouldn't really have been reasonable for anybody to treat you with kid gloves. I think you are underselling yourself to an extent; you are lacking experience in this exact format of game, but your perspective and influence in the game is basically equally important to anybody else's. I think an example of that, is that you were able to use sun fan's reads to help support your own, but you came to your own independent read on DucDuc's interactions with Lewdy while you were assessing the last few players.

Because you have not been a wolf yet in this format, I think it was a bit shocking to you some of the theories for what the nefarious intent supposedly behind your messages were. what the other players have to keep in mind too is that you could have gotten advice before the game and you also would naturally be discussing strategy behind the scenes with a wolf partner for how to best achieve parity and take advantage of the situation. You are also somewhat of an unknown in terms of what you are capable of, both to yourself and to others. So, you will be more prepared next time for what may come up with defending yourself, not that you actually did a poor job in doing so here.

Hope to see you back for more someday, in any case.

**Hakulyte** · 05-21-2026, 06:43 AM

Originally posted by ShadoWolfe

Hakulyte:

You brought this one home successfully. I hope you liked my flavor posts, they were written from the heart

It was good seeing you get such a solid W as town. It's hard to fight the endless possibilities and tinfoil worlds we create, but you did a great job reassessing and reanalyzing and staying within reason in the source of your reads. Your re-reading of thread in F4 and the conclusions it brought were excellent, and your ability to constantly accept the new information as it came and build it into your reads was top notch. You should be proud of your game. It was a good one. Declining Roundbox and going for Raeko was the right move, and it brought home a win despite the intense pressure you were under as the final decision maker in such a tense game. Great job, and I stand by what I wrote in the last line of the last flavor post. This time, you were reading the right pages, and it feels good to see and felt good to be a part of.

I did like your flavor posts. It's a lot more time and effort than it looks. I respect that. \o
I played nearly this entire game while being relatively sleep deprived/low energy. All my energy was spent on damage control and trying to play as mechanically properly as possible. I had to rely on Sunfan's reads a lot and Charu saved me with Toko for sure here. Not because his headspace wasn't convincing enough, but because I didn't have the mental energy to read it for what it is. Just needed someone to shake me up a bit and be like "Hey Haku, listen, you don't understand what's going on." MML ultimately convinced me to trust fall Raeko in the Final 4.
I wish I spent more time vibe posting, but I was so tired that I felt like I had trouble doing even that. I also kept refusing trust falls 'cause I couldn't make up my mind on what to do.

tldr; Gotta sleep, stock up on energy and good vibes so, I can share it the right way in the future.

**Charu** · 05-21-2026, 09:42 AM

Was a fun one for how brief my appearance was.

Then a little stressful for a bit for how brief my appearance was.

To finally being confident in my decisions for how brief my appearance was.

I would say I still got it, but I did ignore sunfan's read at first because I had the wolves mixed up in my head.

(Toko wolf, roundbox town)

That singular AoEAtE made me go "wait a minute..."