jTWG LXXI: Harry Potter and the Rise of the Wolves - Game Thread

[Red Blaster]

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My post never posted :l

[Red Blaster]

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Oh hey FFR's back.
So I realize this may sound suspicious as fuck, but if wolves follow proper procedure, they're going to be targetting the top towny player. Based off of other peoples' reads, plus the fact I'm one of this games veterans, I'm slightly worried that I'm going to be said target.

Assuming we didn't hit the medic, if you could guard me tonight, that'd be greeeeeeeeeeeat.

Least convincing argument ever.
You've got 4 hours to change that.

[Red Blaster]

Re: jTWG LXXI: Harry Potter and the Rise of the Wolves - Game Thread

Anyway, my initial post that didn't go through due to ffr being down was about Funny's reads being flippyfloppy.

"Jteh I like your vote on Red, but it looks wolfy"
"I'm ok with lynching red/I don't like Red" and 2 posts later "I like Red"

Also regarding T-Force tunneling RP, you and Tiloco have like 2-3 pages of you both just nailing RP for everything he was doing before he just went silent. How is that not tunneling?

[T-Force]

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RB, are you trying to claim medic or something?
If not, I have no need to convince you you of anything seeing as you're one of the few (if the only) NOT reading me correctly this game.

Also, here's the Tunneling/Pressure Scorecard:

Unlike you, tiloco, DFR's willingness to talk about anything that's NOT game-related doesn't sit as well with me as it's all he's done.

DFR, read through the read and tell me your thoughts.

DFR: 1 - Riot: 0

That was nothing like a Phoenix Wright "accusation". Valiant effort though.

What do you think about Red's "softclaim"?

DFR: 2 - Riot: 0

So you put a vote on him to see his "reaction", and upon seeing a big ol' =C, you're perfectly fine with said reaction and are willing to leave him alone?

No. I don't like that. You know better than that, you tasteless tetrahedra.

DFR: 3 - Riot: 0

I'm going to skip a bit and say I'm comfortable where my vote currently is, but I do feel that Riot needs to be prodded a bit more. I will say now I won't mind swapping my vote to him for that reason.

DFR, like I said, I'm good with having my vote on and I do hope he can speak up a bit before phase ends (I know you have school and crap, but can you spare 15 minutes?).

DFR: 3.5 - Riot: 0.5

Oh the irony~

You may not feel the need to, but it could be helpful to any other townies who feel you are also town and could influence.

Your job as a townie is to help the other town win. If you're not going to give information to help your case, then how do you expect others to come to your conclusions?

DFR: 3.5 - Riot: 1.5

Riot, in all honesty the best thing you can do as a town is keep talking. Say a lot. Don't just tell us why we shouldn't look at you, tell us who ELSE we should look at and tell us why.
You're partway through with telling us to look at tiloco. Why should we? What makes him wolfier vs. others in your eyes?

DFR: 3.5 - Riot: 2.5

And DFR if you're there, speak up. I don't really want to keep my vote on you, but that's just because I like you. Gamewise, I have no problem keeping it there because let's be fair: If you're not going to be here, you're being a detriment to town.

Riot's willingness and openness does make me want to keep him around for one more day, but after that, it's back to the grill (It's like TWG CIII all over again. >=] ).

DFR: 4.5 - Riot: 2.5

QUOTE=T-Force;4264548]Yeah, the more I think about it (see my post that turned into a slight stream of consciousness), Riot has definitely been odd with basically goading us into keeping him alive for a day. If you're a town, you get your info out ASAP; you don't try to blackmail us into keeping you alive.

Riotpolice[/QUOTE]

DFR: 4.5 - Riot: 3.5



OH HEY LOOK AT THAT I TUNNELED HARDER AND LONGER ON DFR THAN I DID ON RIOT.

Next please.

[danceflashrevo]

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Oh yay I won something!!

Ok reads.

*T-Force*: I find you green, you're trying to get a lot of info and info out of me. Beneficial to town all in general.
*Funnygirl*: I'm not so sure, I have a red lean on you because you've been so inconsistent with your reads, which I guess there's nothing wrong with that, I just don't like how it's been done really. Plus your accusations to me haven't seemed strong. I found it kinda humorous when you posted your "Who I'd Like To See Ded" list. Literally everyone save for two or three were on it.
*Red Lobster*: Red's improved his game a lot I feel. He's gotten better at putting info out I think. Funny that Trevor noted that he has been playing differently and that it's different from what we've all came to know and love as Red's town game, but I like it.
*Ben*: I haven't really had any red flags from him pop up.
*Melissa*: I like the tone of posting, but whoever said we should let a wolf play the noob card is right. I find it odd what you've decided to bring up and actually say at certain times, although I think it's ok to let slide -right now- as there are more pressing matters I think, I would like to hear you speak up a little more in events such as EOD.
*Tiloco*: Also has tried to get info out of many people, asking for reasoning behind things, I feel green on you.
*Jteh*: Hasn't really brought up any red flags like ben has in my eyes.

[tiloco217]

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I am not impressed by those reads. The way you have been pushing on funnygurl has felt very awkward to me. You keep bringing up things about her play then mentioning that it is possible for her to do that as town. Aside from that the rest of your reads don't feel very fleshed out, ben's and jteh's in particular but none of the rest are deep either. Who would be your second mafia read?

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T-force captain obvious.
Still not convinced btw.

[tiloco217]

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Also I didn't like your stream of consciousness earlier. You mostly focused on yourself and people's reads on you. As town I would expect you to focus a lot more on trying to discover people's alignments.

[danceflashrevo]

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Hm... if I had to say right now, it would be between ben/jteh/melissa. Really I put that there for ben and jteh as a half assed way of null. I really need to look back at ben and jteh's posts to get a better read on them. But I really don't have a definitive second wolf as of now. (I'm hunting back through jteh's and ben's posts now)

[danceflashrevo]

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Also I didn't like your stream of consciousness earlier. You mostly focused on yourself and people's reads on you. As town I would expect you to focus a lot more on trying to discover people's alignments.

I focus on myself because that's how I've always played, regardless of role (except for cop apparently iunno). I fear how other people think of me lol. If you look at past games, you can pretty much say that it's my town meta (although I really am trying hard especially now to separate me from my past meta >_>). But yeah I focused on myself subconsciously sorry about that.

[T-Force]

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T-force captain obvious.
Still not convinced btw.

When are you ever convinced with anything I say. And to add to that, how often have I been right.

RB, I have two questions for you: Why do you want RP still alive (aside from the fact you think he's town. I want you to explain why you think he could have helped this game if he was still alive). And the other, who do you think was the better lynch this past phase? Ignore everything that's happened this night phase.

DFR, it's a start. What I think could help is finding a post or two about some users and show why that post/those posts make you read them the way you do.

Reuben, Melissa, I'd like to hear more from both of you, please.
Jteh, if you'd also like to pop in, that'd be nice.

[danceflashrevo]

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I'd like to see more from ben. In his initial reads post (unless I missed something) he said that he'd like to see me/riot dead. The only thing he said about me after that was he doesn't want me to have defeatist attitude again, whereas he gave riot a reasonably large post as to why he felt wolfy about riot. And the see more posts thing was broken for me so really I only saw those two posts, unless those are the only ones that have had substance.

Also looking back at jteh, I just feel... normal about him. Nothing odd has really happened except for being a little more quiet than usual imo. A thing to note is that jteh had riot in his green pile for the same reasons as red is defending him now.

[Red Blaster]

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When are you ever convinced with anything I say. And to add to that, how often have I been right.

RB, I have two questions for you: Why do you want RP still alive (aside from the fact you think he's town. I want you to explain why you think he could have helped this game if he was still alive). And the other, who do you think was the better lynch this past phase? Ignore everything that's happened this night phase.

DFR, it's a start. What I think could help is finding a post or two about some users and show why that post/those posts make you read them the way you do.

Reuben, Melissa, I'd like to hear more from both of you, please.
Jteh, if you'd also like to pop in, that'd be nice.

Ok we've played 1 maybe 2 (charu dies multiple times and smash) games together max. How exactly is that statement valid? You make it sound as if we've played dozens of games and I've always been wrong..
Could RP have been a wolf? Obviously he had the same chance as you or I or anyone has. That whole "idk how to look town" comment leads me to think he's a towny, that was a town rolling over and dying. Also I can't recall any game where a caught red just gave up and never tried to defend themselves afterwards.

As for what we'd benefit from having RP alive? We might've hit a wolf with the lynch instead?
He's currently viewing the thread, which is more than we can say for some. From my experience with RP in live games, he's the type to sit back and examine everything and then make his argument so we could've got some really good reads out of him in D2 had he survived the nightkill.

I would've voted tiloco had I not slept through eod.

[tiloco217]

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and why's that? So far it just seems like you dislike me taking charge

[T-Force]

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Ok we've played 1 maybe 2 (charu dies multiple times and smash) games together max. How exactly is that statement valid? You make it sound as if we've played dozens of games and I've always been wrong..

The only one we did play was Charu Dies. Remember when I had the final 7 perfectly pegged and you didn't believe either of my Mafia claims or how the Traitor could only be one of the power roles? I'm still slightly salty about that.

Could RP have been a wolf? Obviously he had the same chance as you or I or anyone has. That whole "idk how to look town" comment leads me to think he's a towny, that was a town rolling over and dying. Also I can't recall any game where a caught red just gave up and never tried to defend themselves afterwards.

There have been games where wolves literally realized there was no chance and forfeited after the first night. (check TWG CXII).
Choof basically gave up when he was up on a chopping block in Live TWG. It happens. Not often, mind you, but it does happen. If anything, it could be a decent strat because it seems more towny.

As for what we'd benefit from having RP alive? We might've hit a wolf with the lynch instead?
He's currently viewing the thread, which is more than we can say for some. From my experience with RP in live games, he's the type to sit back and examine everything and then make his argument so we could've got some really good reads out of him in D2 had he survived the nightkill.

But why D2. Why couldn't he have given those reads D0/D1/Dwhatever day yesterday was? This is my point - he basically blackmailed us into trying to keep him alive and that isn't a good town move.

I would've voted tiloco had I not slept through eod.

Guessing this is based to him basically leading town?


Either way, thank you. This is the RB I've come to know. You pass in my books for now.