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  • _Zenith_
    Accuracy Player
    • Mar 2011
    • 4629

    #31
    Re: How should Secret Songs be handled?

    Earning is the wrong word here.

    If I were to sell a profile for 150,000 credits right now (Total amount to own all secret songs), I wouldn't have "earned" the secret songs at all.

    Yes, I did work on a profile in exchange for a credit value, however, I did not earn them the way they were originally thought to be earned; through playing.

    I believe that is the point Marcus is talking about, but my post still stands about entire reworks.





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    • One Winged Angel
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      FFR Simfile Author
      • Mar 2007
      • 10837

      #32
      Re: How should Secret Songs be handled?

      Would users be opposed to attaching secret song requirements to minimum grand total score amounts needed, which once met, would keep the song permanently unlocked? Nothing absurdly high. Seems like this would alleviate both issues addressed in the OP.


      Originally posted by ilikexd
      i want to be cucked by cirno

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      • MarcusHawkins
        The Punny Anti-PA Guy
        • Jun 2013
        • 1221

        #33
        Re: How should Secret Songs be handled?

        Originally posted by Rapta
        "This site is meant for everyone, so why can't everyone play the Token songs?"

        I can answer both of those questions. I know you did not ask the second one yourself but it is synonymous to the question you asked.

        You earn them.

        Just my opinion though :\
        True, but Token songs are different.
        You earn Tokens by having certain skills at the game, and they don't unfortunately count towards your Ranks. Also, once you unlock the song, you don't need to unlock it again!
        Secret Songs on the other hand require credits, which you don't need skill to earn, AND it counts towards your public level ranks.
        Someone can be really good, but have only 10k credits, as opposed to someone who's not very good and got lucky in a tournament or the hall and gets 200k credits. What upsets me even more is that if you lose the credits, you lose the songs, and you have to go back to square 1 and earn them back.

        These credits can also be used to purchase songs, change your username color, and get cards at the TCG.....at the cost of your beloved song(s) that may take a while to even touch again, let alone improve on it and increase your rank.

        I respect your opinion, and I agree with some of it, but I have mine too! :P

        EDIT: Thanks Zenith for clarification and OWA for supporting me on the GT idea (I didn't see your posts when I made mine!)
        Last edited by MarcusHawkins; 09-7-2015, 04:03 PM.

        Originally posted by Ghost_Medley

        This man is three months too early.
        Originally posted by badman7772
        Guess I'll take another Quality Pack please. I won't have Hawkins luck but I'm sure I'll have badluck7772.

        Originally posted by _Zenith_
        what the fuck marcus lmao

        Originally posted by rushyrulz
        You should all thank MarcusHawkins btw

        Originally posted by DDRNGGin
        Marcus is probably going to be the main man to win this (You will always be my DDR brother for life, MarcusHawkins! )

        Originally posted by Sky Kitten
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        • Rapta
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          • Dec 2010
          • 1948

          #34
          Re: How should Secret Songs be handled?

          Originally posted by _Zenith_
          Earning is the wrong word here.

          If I were to sell a profile for 150,000 credits right now (Total amount to own all secret songs), I wouldn't have "earned" the secret songs at all.

          Yes, I did work on a profile in exchange for a credit value, however, I did not earn them the way they were originally thought to be earned; through playing.

          I believe that is the point Marcus is talking about, but my post still stands about entire reworks.
          Good point, though technically you did earn it by creating a profile skillfully. Still good point .-.
          Last edited by Rapta; 09-7-2015, 04:03 PM.
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          • gameboy42690
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            FFR Simfile Author
            • Aug 2005
            • 685

            #35
            Re: How should Secret Songs be handled?

            Originally posted by One Winged Angel
            Would users be opposed to attaching secret song requirements to minimum grand total score amounts needed, which once met, would keep the song permanently unlocked? Nothing absurdly high. Seems like this would alleviate both issues addressed in the OP.
            Orchestral Angels has a requirement like this and I always thought it was weird that more songs that required minimum grand totals to unlock were never added to the game. I support the idea.

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            • MarcusHawkins
              The Punny Anti-PA Guy
              • Jun 2013
              • 1221

              #36
              Re: How should Secret Songs be handled?

              Originally posted by gameboy42690
              Orchestral Angels has a requirement like this and I always thought it was weird that more songs that required minimum grand totals to unlock were never added to the game. I support the idea.
              Thanks, dude!
              I wonder if I should make a poll on Secret songs being unlocked through GT rather than creds!

              Originally posted by Ghost_Medley

              This man is three months too early.
              Originally posted by badman7772
              Guess I'll take another Quality Pack please. I won't have Hawkins luck but I'm sure I'll have badluck7772.

              Originally posted by _Zenith_
              what the fuck marcus lmao

              Originally posted by rushyrulz
              You should all thank MarcusHawkins btw

              Originally posted by DDRNGGin
              Marcus is probably going to be the main man to win this (You will always be my DDR brother for life, MarcusHawkins! )

              Originally posted by Sky Kitten
              Best Newbie
              1st: MarcusHawkins: 4

              Up And Coming FFRer
              2nd: MarcusHawkins: 3

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              • _Zenith_
                Accuracy Player
                • Mar 2011
                • 4629

                #37
                Re: How should Secret Songs be handled?

                Originally posted by One Winged Angel
                Would users be opposed to attaching secret song requirements to minimum grand total score amounts needed, which once met, would keep the song permanently unlocked? Nothing absurdly high. Seems like this would alleviate both issues addressed in the OP.
                I'd like this change, something like 5 Bil GT for all secret songs? Iunno what the set number would be, though it would work excluding giving even less value to credits while also including the incentive to get Veteran Status earlier (if not obtained already).





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                • MarcusHawkins
                  The Punny Anti-PA Guy
                  • Jun 2013
                  • 1221

                  #38
                  Re: How should Secret Songs be handled?

                  Originally posted by _Zenith_
                  I'd like this change, something like 5 Bil GT for all secret songs? Iunno what the set number would be, though it would work excluding giving even less value to credits while also including the incentive to get Veteran Status earlier (if not obtained already).
                  I hear rumors (don't know if they're true) that there's future innovation and developing going on regarding the use of credits, so there can still be incentive for credits; just not for secret songs!

                  I don't know how to make a poll, but I think I should make one! Do you think they should happen?
                  Last edited by MarcusHawkins; 09-7-2015, 04:20 PM.

                  Originally posted by Ghost_Medley

                  This man is three months too early.
                  Originally posted by badman7772
                  Guess I'll take another Quality Pack please. I won't have Hawkins luck but I'm sure I'll have badluck7772.

                  Originally posted by _Zenith_
                  what the fuck marcus lmao

                  Originally posted by rushyrulz
                  You should all thank MarcusHawkins btw

                  Originally posted by DDRNGGin
                  Marcus is probably going to be the main man to win this (You will always be my DDR brother for life, MarcusHawkins! )

                  Originally posted by Sky Kitten
                  Best Newbie
                  1st: MarcusHawkins: 4

                  Up And Coming FFRer
                  2nd: MarcusHawkins: 3

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                  • Rapta
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                    • Dec 2010
                    • 1948

                    #39
                    Re: How should Secret Songs be handled?

                    Originally posted by One Winged Angel
                    Would users be opposed to attaching secret song requirements to minimum grand total score amounts needed, which once met, would keep the song permanently unlocked? Nothing absurdly high. Seems like this would alleviate both issues addressed in the OP.
                    This sounds like a good idea to me.
                    Old Quotes
                    Originally posted by IwasAsquidOnce
                    Note the left hand pinky. It stretches out into attack mode to make etienne's hand appear larger, an intimidation technique for the arrows.
                    Originally posted by Mourningfall
                    [3:51 PM] Mourningfall: i spent the second half of that song getting face fucked by a fly
                    Originally posted by Xiz
                    Hi I see rapta come play TWG next game
                    Originally posted by xXOpkillerXx
                    Rapta thinks alot about memes and fonts. I'd be inclined to think he's town because wolves wouldn't have time to meme would they ?
                    Originally posted by Prawnskunk
                    if we keep releasing engines that work on 1/4 of people's computers, we'll get there
                    Originally posted by gold stinger
                    do u even agrabah
                    Originally posted by gold stinger
                    Today at 12:53 AM
                    I have no fucking idea how you were able to identify that specific line from meme show so you are basically an elder god of memes
                    Originally posted by Psychotik
                    When I think Mother’s Day, I think Venetian Snares.
                    Originally posted by Haku
                    have you heard someone mention eating pancakes to negate friday 13th?




                    Originally posted by Prawnskunk at 10:53:56pm on 10/26/11
                    OMFG VC! I want your programming fingers in or around my mouth OnO
                    Originally posted by Storn at 3:03 PM
                    We have so many batches open. Its like a backlog clearance sale. ALL FILES MUST GO!!
                    Originally posted by ToonE156 at 11:07 PM
                    You've never felt intimacy until you've practiced Jiu Jitsu ground techniques with the only girl in class

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                    • demonllama6124
                      im your grandpa!!!
                      • Mar 2004
                      • 1440

                      #40
                      Re: How should Secret Songs be handled?

                      got no problem with it. users would be more wiling to spend credits on purchased songs then

                      edit: if i added correctly, then total credits needed to get all purchased songs would be 155,354.
                      Last edited by demonllama6124; 09-7-2015, 04:41 PM.
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                      • MarcusHawkins
                        The Punny Anti-PA Guy
                        • Jun 2013
                        • 1221

                        #41
                        Re: How should Secret Songs be handled?

                        Thanks for being supportive everybody!
                        Hopefully, people can actually use these credits instead of "hogging" them to change their color and unlock purchased songs!!

                        EDIT: Whoops, that automatically moved to the next page! My bad!!
                        Last edited by MarcusHawkins; 09-7-2015, 04:59 PM.

                        Originally posted by Ghost_Medley

                        This man is three months too early.
                        Originally posted by badman7772
                        Guess I'll take another Quality Pack please. I won't have Hawkins luck but I'm sure I'll have badluck7772.

                        Originally posted by _Zenith_
                        what the fuck marcus lmao

                        Originally posted by rushyrulz
                        You should all thank MarcusHawkins btw

                        Originally posted by DDRNGGin
                        Marcus is probably going to be the main man to win this (You will always be my DDR brother for life, MarcusHawkins! )

                        Originally posted by Sky Kitten
                        Best Newbie
                        1st: MarcusHawkins: 4

                        Up And Coming FFRer
                        2nd: MarcusHawkins: 3

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