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  • Xx{Midday}xX
    FFR Player
    • Sep 2007
    • 3518

    #121
    Re: Midday's Japanese Amateur Artist Intro

    Note: Don't forget purpose #3 please. As in, up some packs XD.
    Last edited by Xx{Midday}xX; 05-1-2008, 09:33 PM.
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    Accumulating all playstyles here!


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    • shiro_ryuu
      FFR Player
      • Apr 2008
      • 86

      #122
      Re: Midday's Japanese Amateur Artist Intro

      yeah, I meant to ask about that, if they're on a public site or part of muzie, is it okay to just get packs up at that point?

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      • Xx{Midday}xX
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        • Sep 2007
        • 3518

        #123
        Re: Midday's Japanese Amateur Artist Intro

        Originally posted by shiro_ryuu
        yeah, I meant to ask about that, if they're on a public site or part of muzie, is it okay to just get packs up at that point?
        As long as you post on the muzie account BBS that you redistributed the songs on this thread, and as long as you have written permission from the artist (not necessary mail, could be on the site itself) to do so.
        Any FFR song title discrepancies? List them here.
        Willing to accurately translate Japanese for free
        Accumulating all playstyles here!


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        • shiro_ryuu
          FFR Player
          • Apr 2008
          • 86

          #124
          Re: Midday's Japanese Amateur Artist Intro

          hmm okay, I'll try to get some stuff put together this weekend (I'd do it tomorrow, but I have an insane amount of work to do).

          Also stereo-chip / invaderP told me the next planned song release is sometime next month. Can't wait for that :X

          Edit:: Just found a huge trance collection at NicoNico:

          http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm3145508

          some of these are probably remixes of anime / hgame ops, but I'll see if there's any original works.
          Last edited by shiro_ryuu; 05-1-2008, 10:34 PM.

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          • Zythus
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            • Mar 2007
            • 346

            #125
            Re: Midday's Japanese Amateur Artist Intro

            Doesn't the remixer author have the right to distributed the remixed version of an original song by another author? You can get through a lot of customs if you do this =P

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            • Xx{Midday}xX
              FFR Player
              • Sep 2007
              • 3518

              #126
              Re: Midday's Japanese Amateur Artist Intro

              DJ Sharpnel is an example of an artist who publicizes anime remixes without the anime company's permission. It hangs around the borderline of legality.

              This is a huge topic. The legalities behind the existence of doujins, remixes, etc. are very controversial. As you all know, people make money off of selling doujins, which are fanfic remixes of another anime. Just like torrent and fansubbing redistribution, anime companies follow the policy of salutary neglect. Anime companies have the right to sue people like DJ Sharpnel, doujin writers, and fansubbing communities, but they choose not to, because the financial deficit would be larger than the ethical benefits gained from justifying the misuse of the original anime.

              Note: Here's some areas that fall under this category of violation.
              Stepmania: redistribution of anime OPs/EDs via stepfiles.
              Torrent/Limewire: redistribution of anime episodes and manga with the misconceptional excuse of fansubbing, and raw.
              Online manga uploads: redistribution of manga with the misconceptional excuse of fansubbing, and raw.
              Doujinshis: the use of pre-existing anime characters in another authors manga without the original company's permission. selling the doujin makes it worse.
              Remixes: anime song remixes and related products ARE illegal. most people think it's not because many people make them, but it is in fact illegal, and can be sued by the company with legitimate charges. be glad that they follow a policy of salutary neglect.
              Anime Music Videos: yes, this is also illegal. once again, salutary neglect. be happy.

              In other words, most remixers don't have the right to remix anime songs. Most people make remixes either because they don't know it's illegal, or because there's a very low chance that they will get caught.

              Some companies that have become serious about this issue:
              Visual Arts
              Key
              Kyoto Animations (I got sued by these 3 before)
              Last edited by Xx{Midday}xX; 05-2-2008, 11:51 PM.
              Any FFR song title discrepancies? List them here.
              Willing to accurately translate Japanese for free
              Accumulating all playstyles here!


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              • dean_machine
                FFR Veteran
                • Oct 2006
                • 1267

                #127
                Re: Midday's Japanese Amateur Artist Intro

                Originally posted by Xx{Midday}xX
                Visual Arts
                Key
                Kyoto Animations (I got sued by these 3 before)
                Wow. Were you able to settle the problem without having to pay a fine of some sort?

                I thought remixes were ok because there's something (I don't remember what it is exactly) that makes it completely ok for video game remixes to be made without getting permission from the original artist, so I thought there would be something similar for other music remixes.

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                • Xx{Midday}xX
                  FFR Player
                  • Sep 2007
                  • 3518

                  #128
                  Re: Midday's Japanese Amateur Artist Intro

                  Originally posted by dean_machine
                  Wow. Were you able to settle the problem without having to pay a fine of some sort?

                  I thought remixes were ok because there's something (I don't remember what it is exactly) that makes it completely ok for video game remixes to be made without getting permission from the original artist, so I thought there would be something similar for other music remixes.
                  Haha, I had trouble. Mainly from downloading Air, Kanon, and CLANNAD (which was ongoing at the time). I was let off with a warning-like statement, much like other torrent abusers do.

                  Video game companies apparently don't mind at all.
                  Anime companies care.

                  Nobuo Uematsu once stated that he loves seeing the expression of affection towards his games from the remixes of major orchestral pieces from Final Fantasy. (I forget where I read this...)
                  Any FFR song title discrepancies? List them here.
                  Willing to accurately translate Japanese for free
                  Accumulating all playstyles here!


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                  • Zythus
                    FFR Player
                    • Mar 2007
                    • 346

                    #129
                    Re: Midday's Japanese Amateur Artist Intro

                    I LOL'd at Key. The only good anime they made was Kanon, CLANNAD and AIR both sucks badly with no storyline.

                    I believe there was also another copyright law which states that if you use a copyrighted clip of media, if its under 30 seconds, its legal. See the legitimacy of that, I suppose this is why Apple was allowed to use "Music Is My Boyfriend" for the Ipod Touch commercial.

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                    • shiro_ryuu
                      FFR Player
                      • Apr 2008
                      • 86

                      #130
                      Re: Midday's Japanese Amateur Artist Intro

                      Originally posted by Zythus
                      I LOL'd at Key. The only good anime they made was Kanon, CLANNAD and AIR both sucks badly with no storyline.
                      This proves that anime love is highly subjective

                      I believe there was also another copyright law which states that if you use a copyrighted clip of media, if its under 30 seconds, its legal. See the legitimacy of that, I suppose this is why Apple was allowed to use "Music Is My Boyfriend" for the Ipod Touch commercial.
                      Yes, and I think some MAD / AMV could fall under the parody umbrella of legality.

                      403

                      Got 403's MP3 pack for Spitfire to work with, just waiting for him to scrape and upload. All permission conditions of handle name and page links are met (since I'll be posting it to the thread with his handle name and zip file), and I did a muzie BBS notification. Now to wait.

                      Edit: MP3 pack: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=TR3S36SS

                      Yuuyu

                      I noticed in the list of webclap responses that someone requested an email conversation for song usage, and Yuuyu obliged, so I'm sending a small one to see if I can get the same thing going. I'll post with more details as they come (those handclap pictures are freaking awesome too).

                      #(#$%*FDJ?!

                      http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm3183550

                      OH
                      MY
                      GOD

                      Incoming

                      Onoken

                      (sorry, his site forbids image copying, best I could do)

                      homepage: http://www.axsword.com

                      .sound has zip files with some demo cuts and some full versions
                      that intro image is HAWT

                      blog: http://axsword.sblo.jp/

                      mp3 pack download:

                      None yet

                      CD info:

                      As usual, toranoana takes the cake for doujin CDs Someone also mentioned that he sells songs on iTunes Japan. His latest WinterMix album has 2 versions, red and blue version (that's just awesome).

                      後払い決済・メール便対応、業界最大手、国内最大級の品揃え!!人気の話題作からマニア向け同人誌まで、豊富に取り揃えています。同人誌・同人グッズならやっぱりとらのあな成年向け通販!!


                      Videos: http://www.nicovideo.jp/search/Onoken

                      I think some of these aren't actually Onoken, so make sure Onoken is in the title.

                      Regarding Permission

                      I can't copy and paste the Japanese conditions (flash site :S). I plan to send an email out requesting MP3 pack permissions and game usage permissions for the following songs:

                      felys -longmix-
                      Jazzy Hiphop: emy
                      Drum'n Core: P8107

                      Update: I have contacted Onoken regarding the usage of the above songs, both in game and MP3 pack, and await his response.

                      Profile:

                      This guy is a big mac user, and like using notebooks a lot. He claims that they give him the freedom to take his environment anywhere he wants to. Also, like everyone else in the world, he likes cute cats

                      Most recent work: WinterMix Vol.5
                      Last edited by shiro_ryuu; 05-4-2008, 01:07 PM.

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                      • boondocks77
                        FFR Player
                        • Jun 2007
                        • 883

                        #131
                        Re: Midday's Japanese Amateur Artist Intro

                        Anyone consider making a classical mp3 pack?
                        That'd be epic.
                        vagina

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                        • Xx{Midnight}xX
                          FFR Player
                          • Aug 2007
                          • 8548

                          #132
                          Re: Midday's Japanese Amateur Artist Intro

                          it would be mega epic

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                          • shiro_ryuu
                            FFR Player
                            • Apr 2008
                            • 86

                            #133
                            Re: Midday's Japanese Amateur Artist Intro

                            Originally posted by boondocks77
                            Anyone consider making a classical mp3 pack?
                            That'd be epic.
                            For Japanese artists or in general?

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                            • Xx{Midday}xX
                              FFR Player
                              • Sep 2007
                              • 3518

                              #134
                              Re: Midday's Japanese Amateur Artist Intro

                              I have a complete Yuuyu pack, both mp3 and bms. All I need is a mp3 to wav converter. Anyone know a good one?

                              An ogg to wav converter would be nice too.
                              Any FFR song title discrepancies? List them here.
                              Willing to accurately translate Japanese for free
                              Accumulating all playstyles here!


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                              • shiro_ryuu
                                FFR Player
                                • Apr 2008
                                • 86

                                #135
                                Re: Midday's Japanese Amateur Artist Intro

                                Audacity baby :X

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