Midday's Japanese Amateur Artist Intro

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  • Xx{Midday}xX
    FFR Player
    • Sep 2007
    • 3518

    #91
    Re: Midday's Japanese Amateur Artist Intro

    Most of Onoken's songs vanished along with his muzie page, which is unfortunate. I don't think making a download pack will be that easy.
    1) If Onoken deleted his muzie page himself, then we have no right to redistribute any of his music from simfile packs. Only the ones on his own site, www.axsword.com
    2) If, by chance, Onoken does contribute his music that are currently in simfile packs, then we will have a hard time collecting all of them...

    Ideas? Or should we just not make a pack, say it's sporadically placed in various smpacks?

    EDIT: Almost done making song list for each artist with artist comments. Copying from word document soon.
    Any FFR song title discrepancies? List them here.
    Willing to accurately translate Japanese for free
    Accumulating all playstyles here!


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    • hi19hi19
      lol happy
      FFR Simfile Author
      • Oct 2005
      • 12194

      #92
      Re: Midday's Japanese Amateur Artist Intro

      More artists to contact off of muzie: (i.e. list of cool things to save for a rainy day)
      -gyauza (has some rediculous hardcore stuff and some cool techno breakbeats stuff. A permission would be very cool)
      -Takajii (oh hey stargroup step some of this why dontcha. This guy is like, Mr.Fusion music. It's all pretty much awesome)
      -Hiro (made of win. A lot of very chill stuff that makes for fun pad files or easy keyboard stuff)
      -a2c (more fusion win-ness)


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      • Zythus
        FFR Player
        • Mar 2007
        • 346

        #93
        Re: Midday's Japanese Amateur Artist Intro

        I suppose the Songs on FFR by onoken could be included in a pack. Of my stepfiles, I found

        FELYS
        AX
        BATTLE AX
        bbblow
        brightone
        envelope
        ESC+
        K8107
        Lataia
        Made In Innocent
        P8107
        Vjore
        Healing Vision RMX (Under the name Diverse System)

        ....Not sure if these could help, mainly because they are cut versions. Oh, and might it be good to translate the whole paypall thing to shiki right now so he would see it when he comes back.
        Last edited by Zythus; 04-28-2008, 05:46 PM.

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        • Xx{Midday}xX
          FFR Player
          • Sep 2007
          • 3518

          #94
          Re: Midday's Japanese Amateur Artist Intro

          Originally posted by hi19hi19
          More artists to contact off of muzie: (i.e. list of cool things to save for a rainy day)
          -gyauza (has some rediculous hardcore stuff and some cool techno breakbeats stuff. A permission would be very cool)
          -Takajii (oh hey stargroup step some of this why dontcha. This guy is like, Mr.Fusion music. It's all pretty much awesome)
          -Hiro (made of win. A lot of very chill stuff that makes for fun pad files or easy keyboard stuff)
          -a2c (more fusion win-ness)
          Today was a rainy day lol. Thanks hi19hi19, will look into it.

          Originally posted by Zythus
          I suppose the Songs on FFR by onoken could be included in a pack. Of my stepfiles, I found

          FELYS
          AX
          BATTLE AX
          bbblow
          brightone
          envelope
          ESC+
          K8107
          Lataia
          Made In Innocent
          P8107
          Vjore
          Healing Vision RMX (Under the name Diverse System)

          ....Not sure if these could help, mainly because they are cut versions. Oh, and might it be good to translate the whole paypall thing to shiki right now so he would see it when he comes back.
          Songs on FFR are not necessarily safe. Otherwise, I would make a MOSAIC.WAV pack.

          Post an English copy of the paypal registry please... I can't get very far in the registry. Block.
          Any FFR song title discrepancies? List them here.
          Willing to accurately translate Japanese for free
          Accumulating all playstyles here!


          つまんないシグでスマソ(´・ω・`)

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          • shiki2
            FFR Player
            • Apr 2008
            • 4

            #95
            Re: Midday's Japanese Amateur Artist Intro

            Are there a lot of people who hope for the use of paypal?
            However, I hate credit cards. The credit card is not scheduled to be had.

            The account number and SWIFT code are taught in the middle of May.
            remittance method is taught if going to the bank.
            If the remittance in the bank is impossible, the use of paypal is examined.

            FELYS of onoken is a good tune. I want also to make such a tune.

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            • Izzy
              Snek
              FFR Simfile Author
              • Jan 2003
              • 9195

              #96
              Re: Midday's Japanese Amateur Artist Intro

              Is he trying to say that he has a credit card number coming in may?

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              • Zythus
                FFR Player
                • Mar 2007
                • 346

                #97
                Re: Midday's Japanese Amateur Artist Intro

                Shiki, your Sepia is hundreds of times better than FELYS XDDD

                Hold on, Midday will be here to translate.

                Oh yeah Shiki, I'm your number 1 fan ^__^ <3

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                • Xx{Midday}xX
                  FFR Player
                  • Sep 2007
                  • 3518

                  #98
                  Re: Midday's Japanese Amateur Artist Intro

                  Shikiさん、こんにちは。
                  PAYPALにクレジットカードは必要ありません。Tokyo Mitsubishi Bankに直接PAYPALアカウントをつなぐことができるはずです。クレジットカードの必要がなければPAYPALでもいいんですね?

                  Hello Shiki.
                  No credit card is required for Paypal. It should be possible to directly link your paypal account with your Tokyo Mitsubishi Bank account. If credit cards aren't required, Paypal is ok, right?

                  Zythus, registry form pl0x?
                  Any FFR song title discrepancies? List them here.
                  Willing to accurately translate Japanese for free
                  Accumulating all playstyles here!


                  つまんないシグでスマソ(´・ω・`)

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                  • Zythus
                    FFR Player
                    • Mar 2007
                    • 346

                    #99
                    Re: Midday's Japanese Amateur Artist Intro

                    working on it, I'll get you a link. If even the link is blocked, I can post screenshots if have to be.

                    Its true that you don't need a credit card, but didn't you say that bank was unverified?

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                    • Zythus
                      FFR Player
                      • Mar 2007
                      • 346

                      #100
                      Re: Midday's Japanese Amateur Artist Intro

                      Ok here is the info.

                      ENGLISH FORM FOR PERSONAL:


                      JAPANESE FORM FOR PERSONAL
                      PayPalならクレジットカード番号を売り手に知らせずに、安全かつ簡単にオンラインで支払いができます。



                      There are 3 types of accounts, Personal, Premier Account, and Business Account.
                      I suggest Personal because it mentioned that "sending money to family or friends is free"
                      I suspect the other forms would cost something because its made for a higher caliber seller/buyer.

                      Smack me for doing something wrong. (Oh snap....double post D: )

                      EDIT:

                      UGH!, the links don't work....paypal was smart enough to redirect....
                      Midday, I'll do whatever else you need be
                      Last edited by Zythus; 04-28-2008, 08:06 PM. Reason: sorry for double post, but I have a legitimate reason....I think...

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                      • Xx{Midday}xX
                        FFR Player
                        • Sep 2007
                        • 3518

                        #101
                        Re: Midday's Japanese Amateur Artist Intro

                        Upon rereading Shiki's post, I think he is saying that the account number/SWIFT code concerning his bank account will be publicized in May along with the release of his CD? Also, Ithink he would rather us consider using direct payment to his bank rather than the utilization of paypal. Paypal is like a last resort, if we just can't send money directly to his bank.

                        Thoughts?

                        EDIT: Baker releases a new song, an extended version of his first creation, named Carol. Damn, shiro is fast.
                        Last edited by Xx{Midday}xX; 04-28-2008, 11:27 PM.
                        Any FFR song title discrepancies? List them here.
                        Willing to accurately translate Japanese for free
                        Accumulating all playstyles here!


                        つまんないシグでスマソ(´・ω・`)

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                        • shiro_ryuu
                          FFR Player
                          • Apr 2008
                          • 86

                          #102
                          Re: Midday's Japanese Amateur Artist Intro

                          <-- Hatsune Miku Inside

                          Edit: Yes, I overclocked it :X

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                          • Zythus
                            FFR Player
                            • Mar 2007
                            • 346

                            #103
                            Re: Midday's Japanese Amateur Artist Intro

                            Originally posted by shiki2
                            Are there a lot of people who hope for the use of paypal?
                            However, I hate credit cards. The credit card is not scheduled to be had.

                            The account number and SWIFT code are taught in the middle of May.
                            remittance method is taught if going to the bank.
                            If the remittance in the bank is impossible, the use of paypal is examined.

                            FELYS of onoken is a good tune. I want also to make such a tune.

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                            SWIFT CODE: (Wikipedia)

                            ISO 9362 (also known as SWIFT-BIC, BIC code or SWIFT code) is a standard format of Bank Identifier Codes approved by the International Organization for Standardization (ISO). It is the unique identification code of a particular bank. These codes are used when transferring money between banks, particularly for international wire transfers, and also for the exchange of other messages between banks. The codes can sometimes be found on account statements.

                            Basically, this is the bunch of numbers in the bottom of your cheque, including your bank number, branch number, cheque number, and so on. SWIFT code is just a general term for the whole thing.
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                            Remittance means to send money over a distance basically if I'm not wrong.
                            So in mid-May, a SWIFT code and an account is issued to Shiki by his bank.
                            What I think Shiki is trying to get at is that, his bank will issue him an bank account, hence a SWIFT code in May, so we can do international transfer of money from OUR banks to him directly using eletronic or phone wiring. Provided if this method doesn't work, Paypal is the last resort.

                            There is also something called Internation Money Order/Draft. This is where you go to your bank and for a sum of money, they give you a special cheque of the money you want to send overseas. If it gets stolen in the mail, theroretically, the theif can't cash in the cheque and get the money. This might be a method as well.

                            I'll seach other methods.

                            P.S.
                            Shiki is so modest ^_^
                            Last edited by Zythus; 04-29-2008, 10:56 AM.

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                            • shiro_ryuu
                              FFR Player
                              • Apr 2008
                              • 86

                              #104
                              Re: Midday's Japanese Amateur Artist Intro

                              Here's another set I found while checking out the latest 初音ミク tracks:



                              Re:A seems to be the female singer on a lot of the songs, with Re:nG being the mixer. It seems that Re:nG is contactable through both a contact form (http://www16.tok2.com/home/rearrange/contact.html) and Piapro (http://piapro.jp/reng), but I've never contacted Re:nG, so I don't know how long it would take to respond. According to their usage terms:

                               私たちの曲をニコニコ動画上に使っていただくのは全くかまいません。

                               ただ、「SING&SMILE LONG ver.」までについて、私たちの作品は画像そのものが拾い物のため、画像については自分たちの許可の範疇外だということをあらかじめご了承いただけると助かります。

                               ※「SING&SMILE」のメイン画像のミクは「SING&SMILE」の動画二次使用に限り絵師様に許可は要りません。とおことづけがありました。なんてありがたい…。

                               2008年以降の作品は使用許可済or書き下ろしですが、そこからさらに転載などになるとやはり今までと同様です。

                               自分たちの作った動画を気に入っていただけてそれをもとにまた新たな作品が生まれるというのは本当に光栄なことです。どしどしやっちゃってください。
                              We do not mind at all if you use our music outside of NicoNico douga.

                              This one was kind of weird. I couldn't get the full translation off hand, but it seems like if SING&SMILE Full Version is used, advanced notice of permission is required.

                              The main image of SING&SMILE main version is not their own creation, so the permission of the artist is essential if used.

                              Hmm, something about the 2008 works being licensed or commissioned, but when they are reprinted they'll be under the same conditions as the previous songs. I assume that "reprint" means their release on NicoNico douga, but I'm not a lawyer so I can't say for sure.

                              This last line is pretty sweet, it's basically saying that they're happy to see new songs given birth from their works, and to keep them coming.

                              Now, their music being on NicoNico douga only, with occasional zip files distributed, it appears they recommend using something like SmileDownloader with flvextract to grab the movie and pull the audio from it, or the site "Nico Sound":



                              I've not heard of this until now.. but damn does it seem sweet :X

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                              • shiro_ryuu
                                FFR Player
                                • Apr 2008
                                • 86

                                #105
                                Re: Midday's Japanese Amateur Artist Intro

                                Well, I contacted another artist that had had in my mixi community list, ベスパ☆くまメロ (Bespa Kumamero). Their music is an electronica / industrial type blend, and would probably make some nice material for packs. Here's some pages:

                                Mixi: http://mixi.jp/view_community.pl?id=106530
                                Official Site: http://kumamero.net/
                                MySpace: http://www.myspace.com/bespakumamero

                                The MySpace player has some songs on there. They also sell CD's at Amazon JP (meaning that foreigners could get ahold of it for ridiculous shipping prices ), Tower Records Japan and another place. Check the MySpace page for that. Regarding permission, got a response back this morning:

                                はじめまして、こんにちは!メッセージありがとうございます。
                                申し訳ないですがくまメロの曲は無料で配信(DL)することは出来ません。
                                MP3をJapan Filesにて販売していますので、そちらで曲を購入するか、またはくまメロのCDを購入するかして頂ければ、FFRというゲームに使用することを特別に許可しようと思います。
                                その際は、出来ればくまメロの曲を使用したことを表記して下さい。
                                Hello, thank you for your message. I'm sorry, but kumamero (shortened form)'s songs cannot be downloaded for free (yet their myspace page has them available to download there, so I'm really confused...). If you purchase MP3's from Japan Files, or buy a CD, we can make special usage permission this FFR game. If you do so, please announce your usage of the songs.

                                I do plan to buy their album at some point, but I think I might buy the same MP3's they have on their myspace music player, because it's a nice variety across the board.

                                Edit: Now that I think of it, it might be better if people that use it buy the mp3s themselves, then I can contact ベスパ☆くまメロ for usage confirmation on their behalf. I didn't specify anything about it being uploaded to this board, and I'm sure there'd be issues if that was clarified.
                                Last edited by shiro_ryuu; 04-30-2008, 08:25 AM.

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