TWG XII - Velyssis Victory!

[alainbryden]

I think Afrobean's on the ball with this one. Hans, I think the guardian went a little deeper than what you said. Past games have shown that the top few players were not wolfed in an attempt to be safe, incase the guardian was flipping coins. The wolves played smart and probably expected the guardian to be thinking a step above, so took a step back and hit us where we've been assuming we were safe the past few games.

The roles still aren't entirely clear yet, but I think the two people that ComSec was talking about could be some sort of masonry, allthough it would seem unfair to only give the humans one other truely special role.

nforcer, I wouldn't put it past eyespew to try to confuse people by asking about second pm's, to see if he could catch one of the special roles / wolves. He talked to me about it first, so it wasn't accidental.

LD, maybe set some markers in the chat log, ever couple hours or each day or something?

[alainbryden]

Neonatrias, I can't figure out if your post is supposed to be a joke or something.

Also you suggested pretty haughtily that the guardian watch over the most powerful players. Regardless of who the guardian watches over, the last thing anyone should do is make a public statement leading the wolves to any conclusion of who or even what kind of person that may be. You can theorise who the guardian protected, but not who they will be guarding. That's helping out the wolves all too much.

Finally, the last thing you said in your post, and it annoyed me somewhat. We've all grown weary of some inexperienced player or another trying to demonstrate some sort of superiority by noting that there's not enough discussion or not enough information to go on. You work through it by speaking of noteable issues or hypotheses, not by briefly stating the obvious irrelevant.

No harm meant, to be sure.

[evilbutterfly]

I wouldn't put it past eyespew to try to confuse people by asking about second pm's, to see if he could catch one of the special roles / wolves. He talked to me about it first, so it wasn't accidental.

That was me. Well, unless we both mentioned it. And I did it before eyespew did it, so he was just copying me :P.

And you know what I noticed? LD always makes a random vote at the start of the game. Oh wait, he didn't do that this time! You know what other game he didn't do that? That's right, TWG XI. You know what he was in that game? A wolf.

[alainbryden]

You are right eb, it was you. And I like your style. Real controversial.

[Tps222]

Actually, he was a wolf in TWG 8?, and randomed, and was a wolf.

O.k, Blah, a vet, no leads off of that. No sense of guessing who guardined who, endless loops.

Not much to go off of, so, i'm voting Alain because he is the only one I see going after Blah. He is playing too much like himself.

[Afrobean]

And I like your style. Real controversial.

I tried something controversial last game and it just got me lynched faster. I love how easily the masses are manipulated.

Actually, he was a wolf in TWG 8?, and randomed, and was a wolf.

It wasn't really random. He lied and said it was random. Unless my memory fails me, LD voted Kefit, a fellow wolf. He said it was random and he did this to make it seem like he's not connected to Kefit. Actually, all the wolves that game tried that tactic and it blew up in there faces.

He is playing too much like himself.

That was quite humorous. In fact, I almost laughed out loud.

[alainbryden]

I was actually discussing with blah how I would think he was the last person to get wolfed, since he is such a good player and high risk of getting guarded. But I understand where yor're coming from. That logic has been used for too many games, it was bound to come back and slap us sooner or later. There's definately one very high level thinking on the wolf team.

[lightdarkness]

I wouldn't put it past eyespew to try to confuse people by asking about second pm's, to see if he could catch one of the special roles / wolves. He talked to me about it first, so it wasn't accidental.

That was me. Well, unless we both mentioned it. And I did it before eyespew did it, so he was just copying me :P.

And you know what I noticed? LD always makes a random vote at the start of the game. Oh wait, he didn't do that this time! You know what other game he didn't do that? That's right, TWG XI. You know what he was in that game? A wolf.

Jay: lightdarkness42 rolled 1 16-sided die: 11

TPS

You'll understand why I've been too busy to vote in a few days Honestly, there hasn't been anything to really vote on, and don't take my behavoir in the last game as an indication of being a wolf. That game I played as if I were human, because I also had to worry about wolves

[mead1]

I think eb's vote for LD was faulty at best. That and I have nothing else to vote on.

[Afrobean]

I think mead1's vote for eb was faulty at best. There is no reason to vote so soon, and voting on weak reasoning just makes it worse.

Not that I'm approving of eb's vote on LD. That was also unneeded. LD's vote on Tps was unneeded, too.

Either way, I don't think eb would vote so haphazardly if he were a wolf. Wolves generally try to stay under the radar in the beginning.

[Tps222]

No, Afro, they don't, they like to briefly surface, be pretty active in the chats, establish themselves as active, and then just be there.

[Afrobean]

No, Afro, they don't, they like to briefly surface, be pretty active in the chats, establish themselves as active, and then just be there.

That would be staying under the radar.

Duh.

[ImEric12]

Unfortunately, I dunno what time I'll be here tomorrow. I don't have much speculation yet, so my random vote goes to TPS. This will hopefully be revised if I get back from Robotics in time tomorrow.

[Afrobean]

Eric, it doesn't matter if you'll maybe be unnavailable; You do not under any circumstances put a random vote on someone who has a vote already. It's bad enough that you're random voting at all, you don't need to compound it by putting a second vote on someone.

[nforcer06164]

Alright, guys, I think I have some evidence here, now that the chat log is up. As I was describing earlier...

eyespewgreekfire (7:34:42 PM): haha

That was eyespew's last entry before he stopped making responses, and at that point, I'm guessing he went AFK.

NEIGH006 (7:53:28 PM): sorry man :/
NEIGH006 (7:54:12 PM): jokes
NEIGH006 (7:54:22 PM): k jurs, my turn, I pick truth
NEIGH006 (8:00:13 PM): Who are you killing night one eyespew?
Xtrialan Derrorx (8:04:04 PM): What.
(8:05:59 PM) Xtrialan Derrorx has left the room.
NEIGH006 (8:06:44 PM): fine then. Suck
NEIGH006 (8:06:58 PM): byes in 5
NEIGH006 (8:06:59 PM): 4
NEIGH006 (8:07:01 PM): 3
NEIGH006 (8:07:03 PM): o_O
(8:07:05 PM) NEIGH006 has left the room.

Even though eyespew hadn't made a response since then, I'm sure he read what happened in the chat when he came back. Although what Alain had said may have been an innocent joke, as eb ALWAYS asks "are you a wolf" when people first enter the chat, he may have wanted to "assure" his humanity somehow. Well, how could he do that? He said...

eyespewgreekfire (9:06:55 PM): quick question people
eyespewgreekfire (9:07:03 PM): i hear a bunch of people got 2 PMs
eyespewgreekfire (9:07:09 PM): am i the only one that hasnt?
Afrobean16 (9:07:15 PM): I'd imagine about half the people got 2
evilbutterfly87 (9:08:09 PM): how many are playing?
eyespewgreekfire (9:08:15 PM): everyone else only got the default one?
Afrobean16 (9:08:18 PM): isn't it 16?
eyespewgreekfire (9:08:21 PM): dammit i want some codes lol
evilbutterfly87 (9:08:39 PM): hehe

So, by saying that, he easily can make everyone believe that he hasn't received a second PM, and clueless about it as well. While that could mean he could be a special role, I don't see why eyespew would go to any length to make everyone look like he's an ordinary human if he is a special role, rather than just keeping quiet. Rather, it seems like something a wolf would do, eyespew.