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Rebirth0
February 14th, 2005, 04:14 PM
NIGHT 1


It was a bright and sunny day, the kind of day that everyone likes. A group of 16 people were traveling by train to Washington DC to do some site seeing.

"Did you bring a camera?" blademonkey626 asked ddrruler. "Yeah, like I'd forget one where we're all going." he replied. "Ok, just making sure."

Several hours passed before they could see signs that they were getting close to their destination.

"Geez finally, we're all more there." Tsuteto said to himself.

The train stopped at a station just outside of Washington DC. Everyone got off the train and looked around.

"This can't be Washington DC." slackygorgeking said. "This place is...dead, there's no grass, no sidewalks, no roads or anything." Rye_Bread stepped up, "It's an open field....what the hell are we doing here?" he turned around to ask someone where they were but, nobody was there. There weren't even train tracks where the train had just been.

"Very strange, this is freaking me out." patron_virdantis said trying to attract attention. "I see what you mean." deltro300111 said back to him.

"I see something far North, you guys wanna go up to it? See what it is?" VashtheGunman7 asked.

"Why not? We do'nt have anything else to do and we have to leave here sometime." babybenji2004 said. "Sure" the others said slowly. So they all walked up to that distant building.

A while later they saw that the building was a large barnlike house. "Who wants to go inside? It's the only building for miles, at least from what I can see." qualy asked.

"I'll do it. Are you trying to scare me qualy?" Spheroid replied, and just then Spheroid opened the doors and went inside. He walked inside and saw a bunch of knives hanging on the walls and felt uncomfortable. "Why don't you all come in here too?" he said.

Everyone walked in and was shocked to se so many knives. "Who the hell collects knives like this? daniel_lewis20 said then looked at some of the bigger knives. "There are blood stains on these big knives...fresh too." BeefStu said. Everyone looked shocked to hear that.

Now everyone felt uncomfortable. "I'd like to leave now." Demon_Of_The_Comet said, but in a second the doors slammed and locked on them. "Heh cool, just in like those stupid horror movies." dAnceguy117 said trying to scare everyone. "How great, what do we do now?" he said. "Find a light switch and see if theres any other exit we can use." Freak83 said.

It's now Night 1, I need PMs from the wolves, Seer and Guardian.

Yes its a very common theme and the story really sucks, but I have a lot of homework to do and I'll be like this all week. So the stories will suck, but it's not like they're a key thing to the game. I'm sorry I can't provide a better story, I'm just going to be busy all week.

EDIT: Just need PMs from the wolves now.

Rebirth0
February 17th, 2005, 04:41 PM
"Ok, who wants to think of a plan to get us out of here?" Tsuteto said while thinking about how to get out of the house.

"Wait...this house is just wood. And it looks really old, probably over 120 years old. Couldn't we just kick down the walls and leave that way?" blademonkey626 said.

"It's worth a try..." ddrruler said in responce.

Just then blademonkey626 kicked at one of the walls of the house, once he had kicked it enough to see daylight, and enough to shatter the wood, something grabbed his foot. "What the hell! What's happening." blademonkey626 screamed. The hole suddenly turned black and started pulling blademonkey626 into the wall. Screaming, he begged anyone to help pull him away from the wall. But nobody would do it, they were all scared stiff. Seconds later blademonkey626 completely disapeared and the wall turned back into wood.

"What...just....happened?" dAnceguy117 asked looking at the wall where blademonkey had just been pulled into.

"The wall just sucked blademonkey into it, like a black hole. I'd suggest not trying to kick the walls down now." babybenji2004 said back to the group.

Spheroid found a light switch and flipped it to ON. The light flickered for a few seconds then stopped. There were two doors, one of them was the door that they used to enter the house, and the next seemed to lead deeper into the house.

"We'll have to use this other door, and find a way out." Spheroid said.

Without any responce the the group walked towards the door. qualy stuck his hand out and quickly opened the door. The group saw a large stairwell leading into what the group thought was a basement.

"We have to go down there you know." slackygorgeking said. "Let's just do it and get this over with." "Fine, let's do it." qualy, ddrruler, and Demon_Of_The_Comet said.

Everyone walked down the stairs for over 30 minutes. It seemed never ending, but soon they made it to the bottom.

They saw a large room, probably the size of a football field. Just then, BeefStu thought to himself, did blademonkey run into a trap that someone in our group set? He decided to share his thought with the group.

"Hey guys, do you all think blademonkey626 ran into a trap? Perhaps, a trap that one of us had set?" BeefStu said.

"That is possible..." daniel_lewis20 said back to him.

"I don't think anybody could make a black hole inside a wall like that." Rye_Bread said.

VashtheGunman7 replied to Rye_Bread "Maybe someone can do that, you never know."

"What do we do with the killer? Or killers?" patron_viridantis asked.

"What do you think we'd do? We will kill them, right down here if we have to." Freak83 said to patron_virdantis.

"Who do we kill?" Demon_Of_The_Comet asked.

"We don't know, how about we vote on it?" Freak83 said.


It is now Day 1. 8 votes are needed to instalynch someone, and don't make any random votes. Try to support your vote with some AIM convo's or something.

ddrruler
slackygorgeking
dAnceguy117
Freak83
deltro300111
Demon_Of_The_Comet
qualy
patron_viridantis
babybenji2004
daniel_lewis20
Spheroid
VashtheGunman7
Rye_Bread
Tsuteto
BeefStu

Deadline: 48 hours (Saturday at 7:00 PM Eastern)

Tasselfoot
February 17th, 2005, 04:49 PM
OK... To address a few issues:

Rspect the game's host. Failure to do so will piss me off. Pissing me off will piss off the rest of the TWC, and make your getting into TWG harder.

If anyone has a question regarding the rules (including the host), don't hesitate to IM me or another of the council members.

Wolves... talk to each other, and make ONE decision on who to kill, and have one wolf contact the host with the selection. This must be done in a timely manner. If it continues to be a problem, I have no problem dealing out bannings after this game. Hell, if two wolves are having a problem getting in contact with the third wolf, then make the decision amongst the two of you and cover for the third wolf. You are teammates after all... you can rat him out in the post game if you choose.

The above goes for anyone with a role requiring them to contact the host. Failure to do so in a timely manner will not only piss me off, but the rest of the game's players, the host, and will likely get you a game or two ban.

Now, enough with the complaining. Enjoy jTWG3. GL to everyone. Any questions/comments, y'all know where to reach me.

Freak83
February 17th, 2005, 04:54 PM
Well crap, not good at all.

blademonkey626
February 17th, 2005, 04:54 PM
Good luck!

***LD EDIT***

Rebirth0
February 17th, 2005, 04:56 PM
Ok, I've come up with some decisions on Night. As I noticed in deltro's "Ban jTWG" topic, that if the wolves don't come up with a vote within 24 hours, they don't deserve to kill anyone for Night. I'm going to do that. If I don't get a vote from the wolves in 24 hours, Day will start and will give humans a better chance to win.

This isn't my fault at all that Night 1 went on for over 3 days. I was very sick yesterday, so I dodn't go on FFR all day. That one day was my fault, but most of the blame isn't on me.

lightdarkness
February 17th, 2005, 05:22 PM
Make it 24 hours. Sometimes it falls during inconvienent times, but 24 hours is safe.

deltro300111
February 17th, 2005, 05:39 PM
Ok, I've come up with some decisions on Night. As I noticed in deltro's "Ban jTWG" topic, that if the wolves don't come up with a vote within 24 hours, they don't deserve to kill anyone for Night. I'm going to do that. If I don't get a vote from the wolves in 24 hours, Day will start and will give humans a better chance to win.

This isn't my fault at all that Night 1 went on for over 3 days. I was very sick yesterday, so I dodn't go on FFR all day. That one day was my fault, but most of the blame isn't on me.That sounds good to me,

And to set the record straight, I think GP will make a great host, I think the wolves were at fault, and I don't thing that jTWG needs to be banned, I just think a few select idlers do.

Tasselfoot
February 17th, 2005, 06:17 PM
On that note.... 1 game ban being dished out to Blademonkey for his now edited out comments after his death.

The statement and full reasoning will be given in the postgame.

slackygorgeking
February 17th, 2005, 06:32 PM
alright guys lets get this game on the role and this problems with the host junk out of here.
anyone got any ideas or anything just post it on here

Rebirth0
February 17th, 2005, 06:51 PM
Wait here.

blademonkey's post was edited by himself, but said ***LD EDIT*** ? wth.

Can someone send me blademonkey's original post?

Freak83
February 17th, 2005, 07:51 PM
I saw that Blademonkey had said innapropriate things in his post and told him to edit it. He did so but apparently it was still too much because LD had to edit it further himself.

lightdarkness
February 17th, 2005, 07:57 PM
I edited it.

So did he, before I did.

Get on with the game, more will be revealed during postgame.

Rye_Bread
February 17th, 2005, 09:52 PM
HI EVERYONE!

I'm popular oh yeah. I'm popular woohhoooo! I'm popular on the forums shebat face!
That was directed to no one in particular.

Something tells me that people know i wouldn't be a wolf, but they'd kill me just the same. LOL

Oh and sorry Gamepro now that things are going it's all cool. At the 3 day mark (or whatever) I just thought the game was dying and wanted it to start (for the second time).

Cheers,
Ryan

qualy
February 18th, 2005, 12:01 AM
Finally! Let's get this show on the road!!!!

So far, I don't think there is enough info to make a sure vote... I think though that it would probably be one of the newbies (not discluding myself) because (and I don't mean to be insulting or anything) I don't think blademonkey is all that great of a kill, although I don't know how he might have been during jTWG if he had survived.

slackygorgeking
February 18th, 2005, 02:32 PM
i am a bearer of bad news today.
i am in contact with the seer and i have learned very horrible news from him.
the player that was killed was sadly the guardian. blade was seered by my source (the seer)
and he proved that blade was the guardian. it is a wonder how the wolves found this out. though i believe
this was just a guess kill like qualy says the wolves prob did not believe this was a great kill
sadly they were mistaken

Rye_Bread
February 18th, 2005, 02:42 PM
We win. I vote slacky.

Freak83
February 18th, 2005, 02:49 PM
We win. I vote slacky.

What is this we win business? Are you signifying you are a wolf by hearing this? slacky's too smart at this game to say something like that without a reason. If the Guardian is truely dead and slacky is a wolf then why would he reveal this information, it would just lead to people thinking he's a wolf and he knows it. He's to clever for that, I'm unsure what you're signifying by that "we win" comment but for now I vote Rye_bread. It's subject to change.

Oh and btw, because you didn't bold your vote it doesn't even count.

Rebirth0
February 18th, 2005, 03:04 PM
It's about damn time someone voted. =/

daniel_lewis20
February 18th, 2005, 03:10 PM
I tend to agree with Freak on this one, I don't think that's something a human would say, in fact I think a human would take a different reaction altogether. Therefore, I vote Rye_bread as well.

Spheroid
February 18th, 2005, 03:18 PM
Wow, I can't believe you would think slacky is a wolf for posting that. I seered bladmonkey last night and he's the gaurdian. btw, my vote goes to rye_bread. He seems like a wolf.

slackygorgeking
February 18th, 2005, 03:19 PM
what u stupid noob y would u say seer

god i wish u could edit ur posts because of thsi stupid nooob
grand

ddrruler
February 18th, 2005, 03:20 PM
Wow man....rye_bread

Rebirth0
February 18th, 2005, 03:27 PM
4 Votes on Rye_Bread.

patron_viridantis
February 18th, 2005, 03:40 PM
my vote goes to Rye_Bread not even a self-loathing human would be so WOLFish and conceited with their words. you cannot win - and although i'm sure your sacrifice will be duly noted by your clandestine canine cronies - your lynching will be our revenge.

qualy
February 18th, 2005, 03:41 PM
Wow, I guess I was wrong about him being a bad kill. -_-;

Spheroid, even if you aren't the seer, why would you say something like "I seered so and so"? That's basically giving yourself away, making sure that you get killed the next night.

Rye_Bread for now, simply because of his "we win" comment. I'll try and ask him on AIM about it next time he's on, and when I'm a little less pushed for time.

dAnceguy117
February 18th, 2005, 03:52 PM
I suspect Rye_Bread just as much as anyone, but I'd say hold up on the voting now that we've got 5, so if nothing else we have more time to discuss and uncover wolves. If Blade truly was the guardian, and Spheroid truly is the seer, then after night 2 (unless the wolves are stupid XD), we have only the psychic and normal everyday humans to work with :<

Spheroid, if you're reading this, SIGN ON AIM DAMMIT :<

BeefStu
February 18th, 2005, 06:17 PM
Rye_Bread

babybenji2004
February 18th, 2005, 06:55 PM
can we get an aim chat going? i don't know who to vote for but I have to side with everyone else on rye_bread, i'll holld on my vote for now though.
EDIT-Rye_Bread[/b]

babybenji2004
February 18th, 2005, 08:00 PM
ddrruler: DONT EDIT POSTS
ddrruler: double post
Rye_Bread

Rebirth0
February 18th, 2005, 08:12 PM
Ok, Rye_Bread is lynched, he has 8 votes on him.

Guys, I'm very sorry...VERY SORRY about this, but right now, and for the past 3 days I've felt like ****. I've been sick, throwing up, massive earaches and very sore throat. I'm going to hold off about a day until I post the Night 2 story because I feel so bad. I know it took 3 days for Day 1 to start and I'm sorry for that.

I know some of you started thinking I was a bad host and that's fine. It's not my fault I got sick right now, the time that I needed to be well. If some of you think I'm a bad host go ahead and think that.

I'm not going to write the story tonight, I'll see if I'm well enough to do it tomorrow morning. Is that alright with you guys?

Demon_Of_The_Comet
February 18th, 2005, 08:17 PM
Ok so the plan is to bandwagon vote and totally bypass logical thinking right?
I dont think my vote even matters nor counts, but ill vote for the only person who we havent heard from so far.

my vote goes to Vashthegunman7

I ono why but i keep typing bote then having to press backspace to delete it.
XD

babybenji2004
February 18th, 2005, 08:37 PM
get better gamepro. please don't die now =/

dAnceguy117
February 18th, 2005, 09:03 PM
Get better soon, Gamepro. You're a cool person ;D

Okay, great, we've got him instalynched. ...Without a single WORD of feedback from him. Plus, that's one less human (from night 2 kill) and a lot less time to work with. I think we're as far as we were before we started, minus a few. We need to get back on track, people.

No more bandwagons, please. Whether Rye_Bread was wolf or not I cannot say, but one thing's for sure: we lynched him with little to no information ON him. Yes, his post was retarded. But Freak was just making a point (and a good one at that), and everyone jumped on it. Start thinking on your own, people, or the wolves are going to win.

Remember, INACTIVITY HELPS WOLVES, BANDWAGONING HELPS WOLVES. Communication helps humans. We need to turn this game around.

Demon_Of_The_Comet
February 18th, 2005, 09:12 PM
Damn you GP for posting at the same time as me!
*Shakes fist*

But yea, we need to think more if were gonna win this game...

ddrruler
February 18th, 2005, 09:13 PM
If we had a aim chart it would help alot...

nforcer06164
February 18th, 2005, 09:17 PM
Okay, guys, Gamepro is pretty sick, as you all know, so I asked him if he needed some help. I've written the story in his stead to move things along and take some pressure off him. That's the worst to happen when you're sick. So, here you have it... the instalynch.

“Well, so have we reached a decision?” said ddrruler.

“Hmm… well, there are eight votes for Rye_Bread…” said babybenji2004.

All heads turned toward Rye_Bread, who slowly started to back away from the group. The lights flickered for a moment, and as he continued to back away, his face became shadowed by darkness.

“Hey, guys,” said Rye_Bread, “Why would you think that I would do something like this?”

“Well, you kind of gave yourself away, didn’t you?” said dAnceguy117. “You really weren’t thinking about what you said, did you?”

“No, I wasn’t!” he responded. “That’s why you guys should think this over!”

VashtheGunman7 looked down, and shook his head. “It’s too late now….”

A drizzle, just starting, could be heard outside. Several members of the group looked around quizzically, as if it were a strange noise. Rye_Bread, however, looked around frantically, paying no attention to the sound of the rain.

“Hey, guys, we’re all tired. Why don’t we just call it a night and think about it tomorrow?” said Rye_Bread.

“Shut up!” exclaimed BeefStu and daniel_lewis20, who then look at each other, surprised. Everyone turned to look at them as well. After a few seconds, BeefStu decided to step forward and speak.

“Look, I’m tired myself right now, but the moment we go to sleep, our mystery killer might attack again. We need to take care of him, right here, right now.”

Rye, who had started to sidestep away, froze as everyone one again turned to him. Many looked at him with raised eyebrows, obviously a bit confused. The drizzle had picked up to a steady rain now. Tsuteto let out a large sigh.

“He’s obviously trying to get away, guys. Maybe we should surround him.”

The group slowly closed in around him. Rye now looked genuinely scared now. The rain then suddenly picked up to what sounded like a huge downpour.

“Guys, you’re making a huge mistake here,” said Rye.

“I don’t think we are,” said qualy.

“That’s right,” proclaimed Spheroid. “We all know you killed the only means of our protection.”

“Too bad you found out too late, Spheroid,” said deltro300111. “But now,” he continued, “you’re going to pay.”

Suddenly, thunder boomed outside. It sounded more like an explosion that regular thunder. All stared calmly at Rye, who flinched wildly and then fell to the ground. As the group continues to close in on him, he scrambled to a corner, and he no longer could think of an escape. Suddenly, Freak83 pulled a knife out of his pocket. Rye’s eyes opened wide with fear.

“What are you going to do?” he yelled, nearly screaming.

“Eliminate you, obviously,” replied Freak83. “We can’t afford to take our chances with you alive.”

“Wait!” interjected Demon_Of_The_Comet. He slowly pulled an even larger knife from his coat. “Don’t deny me the pleasure of helping you destroy this fiend.”

Freak 83 and Demon_Of_The_Comet both rushed at him, stabbing him once each in the chest and stepping away. Rye_Bread yelped, and flinched several times until he ended up on his back. He started to gurgle and claw at the air wildly. As his arms started to slow down, he coughed a couple times, and then his arms suddenly dropped from the air. He body jerked once, his final parting movement, and the life left his body. His eyes were still wide open with the shock and fear they had expressed the instant before his stabbing. Nobody showed any shock or remorse, but still nobody spoke. Finally, slackygorgeking yawned, stretched his arms, and spoke.

“Well, I’m really tired now. I think it’s about time we got some rest.”

“That sounds like a good idea,” agreed patron_viridantis. “We can decide what we should do in the morning.”

As everybody found a comfortable spot in the large basement to sleep for the night, they were unaware of the danger they still faced….

It is now Night 2. Wolves, Seer, and Guardian, if you are alive, you may send Gamepro17616 your PMs now.

Freak83
February 18th, 2005, 09:17 PM
Just one thing I'd like to point out. I did not intend to start a bandwagon of any sort. I was making an individual vote to start the voting off, you saw my post, you can read my reasoning for it. I never thought everyone else would follow suite at all.

Rebirth0
February 18th, 2005, 09:18 PM
I'm taking PMs, I'll be here for about an hour.

nforcer06164
February 18th, 2005, 09:21 PM
It is night. Discuss it in the morning, Freak83. The thread isn't locked, but you really shouldn't talk until the night's kill is accounted for. It's kinda against the rules.

Freak83
February 18th, 2005, 09:26 PM
I just want to clarify that. I went to post reply while there was no story there, I hit submit, check back and all of a sudden there's a story before my post. Not inentional, now quiet until night ends.

(Check post times of my post and the story, both 4:17)

Rebirth0
February 19th, 2005, 06:53 PM
Ok, I'm gonna read nforcer's Night 2 story and then make the Day 2 story. It will be about 1-2 hours.

Rebirth0
February 19th, 2005, 07:33 PM
Morning came and everyone woke up from their sleep, it was still raning hard too.

"Uh, good sleep I guess." Demon_Of_The_Comet said to a few people then turned around to look at the corpse of Rye_Bread.

"What should we do with the body guys?" babybenji2004 asked.

"I don't think anybody will come down here...we'll just leave him right where he is." slackygorgeking said.

"HOLY CRAP, guys come here!" dAnceguy117 said in terror.

A few people rushed over to dAnceguy117 and looked into his eyes. He was staring at Freak83, who everybody thought was still asleep. ddrruler looked over at him and said "Whoa...it looks like our killer is still on the loose." Everybody looked over at Freak83, who was rolled on his side laying in a pool of blood. ddrruler turned him on his back so everybody could see what happened. He had been clawed in the chest, and stabbed in his heart.

"Freak83 was killed. Was Rye_Bread innocent, or do we have two killers among us? Or....even more than two!?" VashtheGunman7 said, looking over at Rye_Bread.

"How will we do this now?" patron_viridantis asked.

"We can vote on it again...You guys wanna do that?" BeefStu replied while looking for a way out.

"Yea we can vote on it again, but first we need to get out of this basement. We will vote first thing, when we get out of here." daniel_lewis20 said.

Everyone looked for a way out but saw none. The only exit was the way that they came, and they all knew that they couldn't go that way. After a while, Spheroid found something. It was daylight!

"Hey guys, come here. I think I found a way out." Spheroid yelled to everyone.

Everyone surrounded Spheroid, then looked at the wall that he was looking at. It was daylight. A crack of daylight, probably one inch thick but the wall was like dirt, they could dig through it.

"Wait. Hold on, how can that be daylight if it's storming outside right now?" Tsuteto pointed out.

"Well maybe it's a light to another room...we can at least find out where the light came from." qualy replied.

Demon_Of_The_Comet got out his large knife to chip away some of the wall while others found hard stones that they could smash against the wall. After about two hours of smashing, stabbing and clawing, the light got bigger. They were almost on the other side! After two more stabs with Demon_Of_The_Comet's knife, the blade broke off it. It broke in two. So everyone used the stones now. A few minutes later the got saw a room, and then made the hole large enough for someone to squeeze through.

Once everyone got in the room, they looked around. The light they saw was an enormous chandelier, at least 4 feet in width.

"Ok, just as daniel_lewis20 said, we are going to vote again. Right now.



It's now Day 2. The deadline is in 48 hours, (Monday at 9:00 PM Central). Also, it now takes 7 votes to instalynch someone.

ddrruler
slackygorgeking
dAnceguy117
deltro300111
Demon_Of_The_Comet
qualy
patron_viridantis
babybenji2004
daniel_lewis20
Spheroid
VashtheGunman7
Tsuteto
BeefStu

qualy
February 19th, 2005, 08:31 PM
I vote Spheroid. I think I may be jumping to conclusions a bit, but he said outright that he was seer, and I don't see why the wolves would not take that kind of opportunity to off one of the most useful players for the humans.

Spheroid
February 19th, 2005, 08:48 PM
Ok everyone. You saw me make my "slip up" yesterday and then not show up on any of the chats. That was all part of a plan. Everything would've gone well, except that the one person in an alliance with me turned out to be a wolf. I can now accuse two people of being wolves for the information I have. Tonight I will die.

First, here's the plan. I actually seered freak on the first night and found out he was the guardian. We quickly mad an alliance the first night. Here is our first conversation:

spheroiddice: just talked to gamepro. he's getting the story together right now
Real Freak83: kk
Real Freak83 wants to directly connect.
Real Freak83: connect
Real Freak83 is now directly connected.
spheroiddice: what does that do?
Real Freak83: GreenOblivion87: hey there jonathan
Real Freak83: sec
GreenOblivion87: ok
Real Freak83: ok the thing is, i know who the seer is - at least i'm pretty sure i know who
GreenOblivion87: alright
Real Freak83: the seer told me he knows who the guardian is too
GreenOblivion87: this is rather crazy
Real Freak83: he hasn't told me who the guardian is yet though
Real Freak83: i'm not going to tell you who the seer is or at least claims to be yet
Real Freak83: cause i still have no proof that you are not in fact a wolf
Real Freak83: and for all i know the night one vote might still not have taken place
GreenOblivion87: very cautious... this is good.
Real Freak83: i might tell you who it is soon if i can trust you
GreenOblivion87: i'd prefer you waited till after day one. i want to see whether i've died before you tell me.
Real Freak83: there's no way i'm going to tell you night one anyway
Real Freak83: if you are a wolf you would just kill him
Real Freak83: sorry i have to be so cautious, but that's how i play
GreenOblivion87: again, i applaud your caution - you are playing well and with a good mind.
Real Freak83: thanks
GreenOblivion87: so i take no offence whatsoever at this decision.
Real Freak83: kk that's good to hear
GreenOblivion87: :-D'
Real Freak83: let's me paste that
Real Freak83: i didn't name you
Real Freak83: i'm doing this as best as i can to make them know i'm human while at the same time knowing who the seer is and not sounding wolfish
Real Freak83: if this works humans win this hands down
Real Freak83: if either of us die tonight we're screwed
spheroiddice: just curious, why didn't you gaurd me?
Real Freak83: i already picked who i guarded before you told me you were the seer
spheroiddice: oh
Real Freak83 direct connection is closed.
Real Freak83: omg
Real Freak83: he's not in the forum anymore and it's not posted
spheroiddice: I noticed
spheroiddice: gamepro says he never left the forum. the display that shows who is in the forum probably has a bug or something
Real Freak83: oh, weird
spheroiddice: he's back on the forum now anyways
Real Freak83: yeah
Real Freak83: i see him
Real Freak83: oh crap
Real Freak83: i better write the story for the TWG i'm hosting
Real Freak83: just over 2 hours till the end of the day
spheroiddice: is that on the specialist army site?
Real Freak83: no, that's my NS community
Real Freak83: i'm running it on the actual natural-selection's forums
spheroiddice: oh
spheroiddice: day 1 is up
Real Freak83: YES
spheroiddice: blademonkey626 died
Real Freak83: yeah
Real Freak83: i didn't see that coming
Real Freak83: ok here's the story
Real Freak83: moments before day 1 started
Real Freak83: you had just told me who the guardian was
Real Freak83: and the guardian we are saying was blademonkey
Real Freak83: don't post anything yet
spheroiddice: wait til patron, right
Real Freak83: or someone
spheroiddice: ok
Real Freak83: you told me half an hour ago
Real Freak83: that's what i'm saying to people
spheroiddice: r u telling them I'm the seer yet, or are you waiting til I slip up
Real Freak83: i'm not sure
Real Freak83: i as may as well tell them so when you slip up it will seem more real
spheroiddice: go ahead
spheroiddice: make sure you have a reason to do so
spheroiddice: so don't tell very many
Real Freak83: i told danlewis
spheroiddice: can you send the chat?
Real Freak83: yeah
Real Freak83 wants to directly connect.
Real Freak83 is now directly connected.
Real Freak83: DANLEWIS2005: hey
Real Freak83: yo
DANLEWIS2005: what's up?
Real Freak83: i'm writing the story for my TWG
DANLEWIS2005: lucky you, and here I am waiting for jTWG to continue
DANLEWIS2005: lol, blademonkey is gone, lol
Real Freak83: i'm doing that too
Real Freak83: apparently he said he was preparing the story now
Real Freak83: but that was like 20 minutes ago ugh
Real Freak83: it's up
DANLEWIS2005: lol
DANLEWIS2005: ok, I have no idea who one of the wolves are
Real Freak83: oh crap
DANLEWIS2005: what?
Real Freak83: i don't know who any of the wolves are
Real Freak83: but i believe that blademonkey was the guardian
DANLEWIS2005: ...****
Real Freak83: i've been in contact with the seer, or at least who claims to be the seer
Real Freak83: and he told me like half an hour ago that blademonkey is the guardian
DANLEWIS2005: damn it, we're screwed then
Real Freak83: no there's still hope
Real Freak83: i mean at least i know who the seer is
DANLEWIS2005: how do you know, HOW DO YOU KNOW!!!!!!!!
Real Freak83: he started talking to me and believes me that i'm a human so he trusts me
DANLEWIS2005: then who's this so-called seer?
Real Freak83: look
Real Freak83: i'll tell you because i trust that you're a human
Real Freak83: Spheroid
DANLEWIS2005: ...ok
Real Freak83: i'm hoping i'll tell a wolf
Real Freak83: cause it's guarenteed that i'm guarding you from now on
spheroiddice: until you die . . .
Real Freak83: that's why i have to keep a low profile
spheroiddice: good luck
Real Freak83: not give myself a reason to be wolfed
Real Freak83: i have to get someone to post that he was the guardian so you can back him up
spheroiddice: dunno who.
spheroiddice: maybe get blademonkey to hint towards the fact that he was the gaurdian in his death message too
Real Freak83: can't
Real Freak83: that's against the rules
Real Freak83: in fact i told him to change this line
Real Freak83: Good thing they killed ME though, I wasn't very important.
spheroiddice: oh. so even if you hint at anything, you have to change it
spheroiddice: will they change it if you 'accidently' hint towards something?
Real Freak83: maybe, dunno
Real Freak83: he changed it though cause i asked him to
spheroiddice: blademonkey's last line may help. was that influence by you?
Real Freak83: no
Real Freak83: have gotta find a way to get someone else to post that the guardian died
Real Freak83: it will look way too suspicious if i do it
Real Freak83: i can
spheroiddice: we have to do something quickly
Real Freak83: i can't think of any other way than telling someone the plan and letting them know why they should post it
spheroiddice: I can seer slacky, and then tell him to post it as soon as he logs on (if he's human)
Real Freak83: oh btw, when you slip up, act oblivious like you didn't even realise it was a bad idea to say you're the seer
Real Freak83: you can't seer until night
spheroiddice: I'll send you what I'm going to say before I say it
Real Freak83: k
spheroiddice: maybe you should tell another person I'm the seer, and see where things go from there
Real Freak83: i'm trying to con dan into posting the guardian is dead right now
spheroiddice: should I talk to him and tell him (since he knows I'm the seer), or would that not help at all?
Real Freak83: maybe you should
Real Freak83: well
Real Freak83: wait
spheroiddice: ok
Real Freak83: ugh
Real Freak83: the person i trust most is slacky
Real Freak83: i can't post this or there's a good chance i'll be lynched
Real Freak83: i have to tell slacky, there's no other way to do this safely
Real Freak83: i won't tell him i'm the guardian
Real Freak83: WAIT
Real Freak83: perfect plan
Real Freak83: i'll tell him someone else is the guardian
spheroiddice: good idea
Real Freak83: and tell him the rest honestly
Real Freak83: that way if he is a wolf, he'd kill the person i said was the guardian
spheroiddice: how are you going to tell him why your not doing the post
Real Freak83: oh
Real Freak83: damn it
spheroiddice: maybe say that you really want to try to stay in this game and you don't want to take any risks
Real Freak83: that's basically saying "Hello I am a wolf, lynch me now" =/
spheroiddice: what other ideas do you have?
Real Freak83: i'm going to have to put trust into him
Real Freak83: i'll have to tell him everything
Real Freak83: if he is a human like i believe he is
Real Freak83: we should win this easy
Real Freak83: if not, we're screwed
spheroiddice: I was about to say that
Real Freak83: it's a risk, but it'll be worth it if it works
spheroiddice: new idea:
spheroiddice: try the first plan you had, and if he questions why you're not doing it, then tell him everything
Real Freak83: maybe that might be best
Real Freak83: i'll call his house now
spheroiddice: brb, have to go to diner, I'm staying logged on
Real Freak83: lol i just said that to dan, though i'm just saying it to get away from him right now
Real Freak83: cause he's harassing me for info
Real Freak83 is away at 5:39:59 PM.

I’m going to posting many of my conversations. I need to get as much info out there as possible. Basically what we planned to do was have me say I seered blademonkey and he was the guardian. Then, I would “slip up” and say I was the seer. That night, the wolves would try to kill me and the next morning, everyone would now I’m human because I was saved from death. Unfortunatly, we employed slacky to do the work of saying he heard blademonkey was guardian, and then encouraging people that I was a noob and made a very stupid mistake. We told him everything. He knew Freak was guardian and that Freak was going to guard me, the seer, every night. Tommorow, I garuntee I will die, whether by murder at night, or a clever lynching scheme of the wolves.

Evidence towards beefstu and other convos with freak and more will be posted later today.

Spheroid
February 19th, 2005, 08:51 PM
Another planning convo with freak:

spheroiddice: k, I'm here
Real Freak83: ok so what are you confused about exactly
Real Freak83: what's your original plan you don't know if you can post anymore
spheroiddice: what I should post on the forum
Real Freak83: i can't write it for you because it has to sound like yourself
Real Freak83: what you want to say
Real Freak83: sorry
Real Freak83: you want to back slacky up
Real Freak83: confirming that the guardian is dead
Real Freak83: during that post you want to reveal that you are the seer
spheroiddice: I don't know how to make it sound like a slip up
Real Freak83: but make it sound like your completely oblivious
spheroiddice: I had a plan earilier, but it doesn't work with what's been posted
Real Freak83: you want to back him up, sound oblivious
Real Freak83: and like you don't reliase you would have normally just made a huge mistake
Real Freak83: slacky, maybe me, maybe others will start calling you a noob for doing this, this is good, it just proves that you are the seer
Real Freak83: i'll guard you and the wolves will vote for you, you live, everyone knows for sure you're the seer, you reveal the roles night by night
spheroiddice: yeah, I know that part of the plan
spheroiddice: should I quote slacky in my post?
Real Freak83: maybe, as long as you're just quoting what he just posted
Real Freak83: confirm the guardian is dead, backing him up while revealing yourself
spheroiddice: I think I'll put in a vote for Rye_Bread at the end to make me seem like a noob for bandwagoning, and because I actually think he'
spheroiddice: is a wolf
spheroiddice: Here's what I plan on posting:
spheroiddice: Wow, I can't believe you would think slacky is a wolf for posting that. I seered bladmonkey last night and he is a wolf. btw, my vote goes to rye_bread. He seems like a wolf.
Real Freak83: NO
Real Freak83: blademonkey was the guardian!
spheroiddice: ahh, good thing you caught em. Another stupid mistake
Real Freak83: phew, i thought you already posted
spheroiddice: no, I'm checking to make sure it's ok
spheroiddice: besides that, do u think it's convincing enough?
Real Freak83: looks ok to me
spheroiddice: k, I'm posting it.
spheroiddice: slacky posted a response calling me a noob. should I post saying that I didn't know
Real Freak83: yes, that might be a good idea
Real Freak83: DANLEWIS2005: omg, Spheroid shouldn't have posted that he was the seer, he's a goner
Real Freak83: what!
Real Freak83: omg
DANLEWIS2005: he said he seered blademonkey, IDIOT!!!!!
Real Freak83: omg..........
Real Freak83: this is not good
spheroiddice: so it's working
Real Freak83: it's going to plan
Real Freak83: after the wolves try to kill you, everything will be normal
spheroiddice: I'm going to log out now so I don't have the chance to defend myself. Accept whe polyspheroid sends you a message.
Real Freak83: you can never say that i'm the guardian though
spheroiddice: k
Real Freak83: or else we are majorally screwed
spheroiddice: yeah, I know. If you die, the plan is pointless
spheroiddice: anyway, i'm "logging of now"

VashtheGunman7
February 19th, 2005, 08:57 PM
Sorry guys I have been very busy.

Spheroid
February 19th, 2005, 09:09 PM
Yet another convo with Freak

polyspheroid: this is spheroid
Real Freak83: kk
Real Freak83: GreenOblivion87: hey Jon
Real Freak83: yo
Real Freak83: did you see what happened
GreenOblivion87: we are screwed because of what Spheroid did
GreenOblivion87: ****ing moron
Real Freak83: i can't believe him
Real Freak83: i thought he knew better than that
GreenOblivion87: it's common sense!
GreenOblivion87: the wolves are going to win this by far
Real Freak83: i know
Real Freak83: that's what happens when noobs get special roles i guess
GreenOblivion87: might as well start the sign-ups for the next game
Real Freak83: this game still has to end first :-(
Real Freak83: i feel so bad about this right now
Real Freak83: oh well, day 2 everything will be ok
polyspheroid: it's kinda fun successfuly tricking everyone, though
Real Freak83: lol i'm glad you're not taking this part too hard
Real Freak83: until day 2 it's gonna be tough for you, cause everyone's gonna hate you
Real Freak83: well except me and slacky
polyspheroid: good thing slacky's human
Real Freak83: i seriously believe so
Real Freak83: if i die tonight, then we know - SLACKY IS A WOLF
Real Freak83: cause he's the only person other than you who knows i'm the guardian
polyspheroid: if you die, I think it will be best to reveal the whole plan. Then we can bring slacky down (if he's a wolf)
Real Freak83: yeah
Real Freak83: we don't reveal anything otherwise until postgame
polyspheroid: of course
Real Freak83: well
Real Freak83: we'll have to reveal some of it
Real Freak83: when you're protected tonight
Real Freak83: it will be confirmed that you're a human at the very least
polyspheroid: Everything except that you're the gaurdian
Real Freak83: but it will be obvious you lied about blademonkey being the guardian
Real Freak83: you can say that you lied about that part, as now everyone will know that you are the seer
Real Freak83: you can say that was planned
Real Freak83: then you can reveal who you seer'd, keep in mind if you seer the Psychic just say he's human
polyspheroid: as I said, reveal the whole plan except that you're the gaurdian
Real Freak83: well i dunno about the whole plan, we'll discuss it before you post on day 2
polyspheroid: yeah
Real Freak83: Spheroid, even if you aren't the seer, why would you say something like "I seered so and so"? That's basically giving yourself away, making sure that you get killed the next night.
Real Freak83: lmao
Real Freak83: maybe the reason you said it is so you get wolfed lol
Real Freak83: this is funny
Real Freak83: everyone is so angry right now, and i'm laughing so hard
polyspheroid: what are you typing all this for?
Real Freak83: i didn't
Real Freak83: i copy pasted what someone else said
polyspheroid: oh
polyspheroid: do u think I should sign on? I'll probably be the safest not doing anything
Real Freak83: stay offline
Real Freak83: or on this account at least
polyspheroid: I'm creating a new ffr name so I can check the forum
Real Freak83: k, good idea
Real Freak83: oh wait
Real Freak83: if you're gonna check twg
Real Freak83: you need to be in twg usergroup, don't forget that
polyspheroid: that's why I need to start a new account
Real Freak83: k

Look at the line I bolded. It's another argument about slacky, cause he was the only one we let into everything in our plan

Spheroid
February 19th, 2005, 09:24 PM
Here's a conversation I had with slacky before I posted anything on this. I acted stupid at first to see what he was pretending not to know. When I threw everything on him that I knew freak had told me, he acted shocked. He knows acting like he never knew anything is his only chance of not dying today (see bold in post above).

spheroiddice: hey, wats up?
Xenofixus88: sucks
Xenofixus88: sup
spheroiddice: well I just read the story, freak died
Xenofixus88: what
Xenofixus88: he did
spheroiddice: yup
spheroiddice: so you haven't read the story yet?
Xenofixus88: im reading now
spheroiddice: what do you think this means
Xenofixus88: im really confused
spheroiddice: how could anyone have known?
Xenofixus88: known??
spheroiddice: to kill freak
Xenofixus88: i dont know
Xenofixus88: whats freak
spheroiddice: he's the one who died
Xenofixus88: yeah
Xenofixus88: i dont know
Xenofixus88: how do u know??
spheroiddice: know what?
Xenofixus88: know that blade is a guardian
spheroiddice: what? are you kidding. blade wasn't gaudian
Xenofixus88: what
Xenofixus88: wtf
Xenofixus88: blade wasnt guardian
spheroiddice: honestly slacky, are you acting stupid?
Xenofixus88: what
Xenofixus88: wtf
Xenofixus88: ur the one saying he is
Xenofixus88: i dont know wtf is going on
spheroiddice: didn't freak tell you?
Xenofixus88: tell me what
spheroiddice: let me check my convos. just a sec
spheroiddice: k, here's a quote from freak Real Freak83: if i die tonight, then we know - SLACKY IS A WOLF
Xenofixus88: wtf
Xenofixus88: freak is guardian
Xenofixus88: wtf are u saying
Xenofixus88: y are u lieing to me
spheroiddice: and you knew that
Xenofixus88: u told me GUARDIAN WAS A WOLF
spheroiddice: because freak said he told me
Xenofixus88: u told me that blade was a guardian
Xenofixus88: what
spheroiddice: *you
Xenofixus88: freak didnt tell me anything
spheroiddice: I lied. it was all part of plan that you ruined because you're a wolf. Check the forums in a couple hours. You'll se
Xenofixus88: what
Xenofixus88: u lied what
Xenofixus88: ??
spheroiddice: I don't have time to explain. Wait until I make my post

If you haven't guessed, my vote goes for slacky

BeefStu
February 19th, 2005, 09:25 PM
You have no such evidence, because I am not a wolf. In our conversation, you sounded like you were trying to set me up for something, so of course I was acting suspicous. And why wouldn't the Seer get wolfed, unless the Seer was himself a wolf? How do you explain that, Spheroid?

deltro300111
February 19th, 2005, 09:26 PM
... Wow, slackygorgeking You've dug yourself a hole. Nuh...night.

Rebirth0
February 19th, 2005, 09:28 PM
Spheroid, you didn't need to post that convo 4 times.

slackygorgeking
February 19th, 2005, 09:47 PM
okay there is something really fishy going on

1. I DID NOT KNOW FREAK WAS GUARDIAN
i dont understnad what is going on fully. there has been some major lying going on
spheroid told me blade was guardian and kept repeating it so i made my post
about how blade was guardian. i thought blade was guardian and am now not sure.
i had no clue freak was guardian and it makes no sense to me. i did not know of this alliance between spheroid, freak and dancer and just found out about it. y would freakgo behind my back about this if i was in an alliance with them and knew
their "plan" i am being framed.
i dont believe spheroid is the seer because i dont think he is that much of a newb. y would he make this mistake plus tell EVERYONE blade is a guardian. he has been lying the whole game and is lying now. i think he lied to freak and made him believe all this garbage.

I HAVE BEEN FRAMED... BY TWO CLOSE PEOPLE TO ME
just think about it

dAnceguy117
February 19th, 2005, 09:48 PM
Take a look at this. Freak told me that he told Slacky about his true role as guardian, and Slacky says otherwise. Why would Freak lie? See if you can come up with anything, because my mind is still pretty due to change.

See, I didn't want Slacky to know I knew (XD), so I fed him stuff. Look at how he reacts to the truth, even just brought up as a random possibility.


P337 teh 1337: Hey.
Xenofixus88: hey
P337 teh 1337: What happened?
P337 teh 1337: Why'd Freak die?
Xenofixus88: i have no clue
P337 teh 1337: I mean
P337 teh 1337: I just figured Spheroid would die for sure...
Xenofixus88: same
P337 teh 1337: Wow.
P337 teh 1337: What happens now?
Xenofixus88: i got no clue
Xenofixus88: stay sharp
Xenofixus88: and keep an eye out
P337 teh 1337: Alright.
P337 teh 1337: Hm.
Xenofixus88: dont trust anyone
P337 teh 1337: I'm just thinking.
P337 teh 1337: Why on EARTH would someone kill Freak over Spheroid?
Xenofixus88: gots me why??
P337 teh 1337: Yeah =/
Xenofixus88: damn
Xenofixus88: i liked being in a jtwg with a friend
Xenofixus88: u talked wiht anyone
Xenofixus88: get any ideas
P337 teh 1337: Not really >_<
P337 teh 1337: You?
Xenofixus88: nah
Xenofixus88: no one is on
P337 teh 1337: Agh.
P337 teh 1337: But back to my suspicions of earlier.
P337 teh 1337: Remember when I said when Spheroid seered Blade, he couldn't have known he was the guardian?
Xenofixus88: yeah
P337 teh 1337: Well, are you sure he saw what GP said?
Xenofixus88: i dont know
Xenofixus88: i heard this all from second hand
P337 teh 1337: What if Blade was the psychic, and somehow Freak was the guardian?
Xenofixus88: ive been out of it this game
P337 teh 1337: And someone found out?
Xenofixus88: freak was the guardian
Xenofixus88: ??
P337 teh 1337: I'm just saying, that's the only reason I could think of he would die over anyone else, aside from the fact that he's smart.
Xenofixus88: lol
Xenofixus88: could make sense
Xenofixus88: where u getting this all from
P337 teh 1337: Out of my ass >_<
P337 teh 1337: Just random thoughts.
Xenofixus88: hmm
Xenofixus88: dancer
Xenofixus88: did u know freak was the guardian
P337 teh 1337: He was?
Xenofixus88: no
Xenofixus88: but u are saying that he is
P337 teh 1337: Are you sure or something?
Xenofixus88: if what u say is true
P337 teh 1337: No, I have no idea >_<
P337 teh 1337: ?
Xenofixus88: how do u know
P337 teh 1337: I don't know.
Xenofixus88: are u sure??
P337 teh 1337: That's my point >_<
Xenofixus88: becaues i have never heard this before
P337 teh 1337: Am I sure about what?
P337 teh 1337: I know.
Xenofixus88: i thought blade was the guardian
Xenofixus88: wtf
Xenofixus88: is shprehoid said blade was the guardian
P337 teh 1337: He probably was, I'm just trying to think of a reason why Freak would die over Spheroid >_<
Xenofixus88: hes the seer and he told me that blade was teh guardian
Xenofixus88: hmm
Xenofixus88: where did u come up with this
P337 teh 1337: Just now.
P337 teh 1337: After I saw Freak died, that is.
Xenofixus88: u just some how came up with it
P337 teh 1337: Yeah.
P337 teh 1337: Why?
P337 teh 1337: Can you think of anything else?
P337 teh 1337: I just want to piece this together.
P337 teh 1337: >_<
Xenofixus88: hmm
P337 teh 1337: Hang on.
P337 teh 1337: Remember the OTHER thing I said?
P337 teh 1337: About someone NOT wolfing Spheroid to throw us, and he's actually the seer?
P337 teh 1337: What if that happened?
P337 teh 1337: >_<
P337 teh 1337: This is so hard >_<
Xenofixus88: hmm
Xenofixus88: what is he isnt the seer
Xenofixus88: and was lying to us
Xenofixus88: but that doesnt make to much sense
Xenofixus88: hmmm
P337 teh 1337: Yeah...
P337 teh 1337: It's one or the other.
Xenofixus88: i dont know whats going on
Xenofixus88: im confused as u
P337 teh 1337: I don't either, this makes things hard >_<
Xenofixus88: yo i chopped the sexiest girl today
P337 teh 1337: ?
P337 teh 1337: wha
Xenofixus88: lol
Xenofixus88: nvm
P337 teh 1337: um
P337 teh 1337: k
Xenofixus88: LOL
Xenofixus88: i just had to get that out
P337 teh 1337: XD
Xenofixus88: u know what chopped means right
P337 teh 1337: not at all XD
Xenofixus88: lol
P337 teh 1337: That's why I said ?
Xenofixus88: it means picked up
P337 teh 1337: Ah.
P337 teh 1337: :p
Xenofixus88: u know got her number
P337 teh 1337: Never heard anyone use it.
P337 teh 1337: ;D
Xenofixus88: really
Xenofixus88: where ulive
P337 teh 1337: Michigan.
Xenofixus88: lol
Xenofixus88: are u a prep
P337 teh 1337: Nope ;D
Xenofixus88: then how have u not heard that term
P337 teh 1337: Don't have crap like that at a private school ;D
Xenofixus88: ahh
Xenofixus88: see ur a prep
Xenofixus88: its all good
P337 teh 1337: I know more than you think I know ;D
Xenofixus88: lol
Xenofixus88: i know
Xenofixus88: prep doesnt mean what u think it means lol
P337 teh 1337: lol
Xenofixus88: so umm
Xenofixus88: back to jtwg
P337 teh 1337: Maybe I know less than I think I know XD
P337 teh 1337: Yeah.
Xenofixus88: lol
Xenofixus88: she was sexy though
P337 teh 1337: XD
P337 teh 1337: So what if Spheroid is the seer?
P337 teh 1337: Then he gets one more seering.
P337 teh 1337: Hm.
Xenofixus88: umm
Xenofixus88: he said that blade was guardian right
P337 teh 1337: I don't know, I haven't really talked to him.
P337 teh 1337: Let me ask.
P337 teh 1337: Yeah, he said Blade was the guardian.
P337 teh 1337: Why?
Xenofixus88: because
Xenofixus88: then ur theorie is wrong
Xenofixus88: and we got nothing on why freak was killed
P337 teh 1337: Hm.
P337 teh 1337: That was just something random anyway, remember? XD
P337 teh 1337: But yeah, that eliminates one theory.
Xenofixus88: maybe
Xenofixus88: freak might of found out a wolf
P337 teh 1337: Ah, yeah.
Xenofixus88: yo
P337 teh 1337: That's an idea.
Xenofixus88: send me exactly what spheroid said
Xenofixus88: when he said that blade was the guardian
P337 teh 1337: just a sec
P337 teh 1337: Crap, my Dad's yelling at me <(
P337 teh 1337: I'll get it though
P337 teh 1337: just a sec
P337 teh 1337: AGH.
P337 teh 1337: HE'S SCREAMING AND CRAP.
Xenofixus88: y
P337 teh 1337: I'll get it to you when I come back, like tomorrow. I don't even know why he's yelling
P337 teh 1337: AGH
P337 teh 1337: GAWD.
Xenofixus88: whats wrong man
Xenofixus88: are u getting off??
P337 teh 1337: SEE YA, IM TELLING EVERYONE ELSE I'M LEAVING
P337 teh 1337: I need to man
P337 teh 1337: ah jesus
P337 teh 1337: later
Xenofixus88: ...
Xenofixus88: bye
Xenofixus88: tommorow
Xenofixus88 signed off at 10:16:22 PM.
Xenofixus88 signed on at 10:23:43 PM.
P337 teh 1337: Alright.
Xenofixus88: dancer
P337 teh 1337: I'm sorry I had to do that.
Xenofixus88: wtf man
P337 teh 1337: I DON'T KNOW.
Xenofixus88: why did u block me
Xenofixus88: wtf is going on
P337 teh 1337: I'm trying to figure things out, and it looked like you overreacted to one of my theories.
Xenofixus88: dancer
P337 teh 1337: Blade told you I was on, so I guess I gotta talk to you.
P337 teh 1337: Why did you overreact so much?
Xenofixus88: dancer
Xenofixus88: u know
Xenofixus88: y
P337 teh 1337: Don't play dumb, k?
P337 teh 1337: ?
Xenofixus88: because u looked so much like a wolf
Xenofixus88: u and sprehoid
P337 teh 1337: Hm....
Xenofixus88: i dont know whats going on
P337 teh 1337: I don't get it..
Xenofixus88: y would sphreoid lie
P337 teh 1337: He lied?
P337 teh 1337: I don't get it..
Xenofixus88: but
P337 teh 1337: God this is hard.
Xenofixus88: i dont get this
Xenofixus88: ur theorie
Xenofixus88: where di it come from
P337 teh 1337: I wish there was someone I could trust 100% X(
Xenofixus88: there never is dancer
P337 teh 1337: What do you mean where did it come from? It came from my other theory, remember?
P337 teh 1337: Seering, guardianing, there is.
Xenofixus88: what
Xenofixus88: dancer
Xenofixus88: wtf is going on
P337 teh 1337: God, I don't know.
P337 teh 1337: God, I wish I knew.
Xenofixus88: y are u two trying to frame me??
P337 teh 1337: We're not.
P337 teh 1337: What are you talking about?
P337 teh 1337: I was trying to think.
Xenofixus88: i dont know
P337 teh 1337: Now it's hard, with everyone IMing me.
Xenofixus88: but u two are both attackig me from everywher
P337 teh 1337: Hang on a sec.
P337 teh 1337: He's attacking you?
Xenofixus88: yes
P337 teh 1337: How?
Xenofixus88: dont know
Xenofixus88: hes telling so many lies
Xenofixus88: im just confused now
P337 teh 1337: God, me too, what is he saying?
Xenofixus88: AHHH
Xenofixus88: im so confused
P337 teh 1337: Alright, I think we all need to talk about this.
P337 teh 1337: TOGETHER.
P337 teh 1337: This is where the jTWG chat comes into play.
Xenofixus88: dancer
Xenofixus88: wtf is going on
P337 teh 1337: I already told you, I know as much as you do.
P337 teh 1337: I had suspicions about you, then Spheroid, and now I don't KNOW.
Xenofixus88: dancer
P337 teh 1337: what?
P337 teh 1337: just a sec, my friend and his family is leaving.
P337 teh 1337: WAIT.
P337 teh 1337: Agh.
Xenofixus88: wait
P337 teh 1337: ?
Xenofixus88: wtf is going on
P337 teh 1337: Dude, what are you talking about?
Xenofixus88: seriously
P337 teh 1337: You tell ME.
Xenofixus88: wtf is going on
P337 teh 1337: Do you have that copied or what?
P337 teh 1337: What do you want from me?
P337 teh 1337: I already told you all I know.
Xenofixus88: alright
P337 teh 1337: And now I'm getting sick of all of this.
Xenofixus88: im just thinking outloud
P337 teh 1337: ok.
P337 teh 1337: I need a break, and Ruroni Kenshin is on.
P337 teh 1337: I'm going away for a while, back tomorrow if nothing else.
P337 teh 1337: I need to think about all of this.
Xenofixus88: wtf
Xenofixus88: sphrehoid is saying freak is guardian
P337 teh 1337: Yeah.
P337 teh 1337: I wasn't telling you everything.
P337 teh 1337: But now I'm not sure about ANY of this.
P337 teh 1337: I was telling you the truth about THAT.
Xenofixus88: wtf
Xenofixus88: wtf is this
Xenofixus88: their saying i knew freak was guardian
P337 teh 1337: Freak IMed me yesterday.
Xenofixus88: wtf he told me that blade was
Xenofixus88: what did he say
P337 teh 1337: Freak TOLD ME that he told you he was the guardian.
Xenofixus88: what
Xenofixus88: no he didnt
P337 teh 1337: He was human, that's been proven.
P337 teh 1337: So anything he said can be proven true.
P337 teh 1337: I don't get it.
P337 teh 1337: But I was telling the truth when I said I was sick of this and I want to watch my show.
Xenofixus88: dancer
Xenofixus88: hold on
P337 teh 1337: What.
Xenofixus88: hold on
Xenofixus88: where is this coming from
P337 teh 1337: Where is what coming from?
P337 teh 1337: Specify.
Xenofixus88: that freak was guardian
Xenofixus88: wtf is this
P337 teh 1337: Freak.
Xenofixus88: dancer
P337 teh 1337: What?
Xenofixus88: im so confused
P337 teh 1337: I am too, actually.
Xenofixus88: dancer
Xenofixus88: trust me
Xenofixus88: i had no clue freak was a gurdian
P337 teh 1337: Trust me, Freak told me you were the guardian, so why would he lie?
Xenofixus88: Xenofixus88: blade is guardian right??
spheroiddice: yup
Xenofixus88: alright ill post
Xenofixus88: if u really think he is okay
Xenofixus88: u seered him right
spheroiddice: yup
Xenofixus88: okay

Xenofixus88: y would any of them lie
Xenofixus88: i dont know
Xenofixus88: but im gettinframed
P337 teh 1337: Freak would NOT lie.
Xenofixus88: y is everyone lieing to me
P337 teh 1337: Because Spheroid seered me.
P337 teh 1337: That's how this all started.
Xenofixus88: ??
Xenofixus88: wtf is going on
P337 teh 1337: Yesterday.
P337 teh 1337: Spheroid seer'd me, and the only ones that knew Freak was the guardian were me, Spheroid, Freak (obviously), and you.
Xenofixus88: i didnt know
Xenofixus88: look
P337 teh 1337: How did you not know?
Xenofixus88: freak never told me
Xenofixus88: sphrehoid lied to me
Xenofixus88: saying that blade was the gaurdian
P337 teh 1337: That's because it was a ploy for the wolves.
Xenofixus88: wolves
Xenofixus88: what u mean
P337 teh 1337: Wolves kill Spheroid next night, Freak guardians, alliance builds.
Xenofixus88: huh
Xenofixus88: dancer ur making no sense
P337 teh 1337: How?
P337 teh 1337: Tell me.
Xenofixus88: freak is guardian??
Xenofixus88: ur not lieing
P337 teh 1337: I'm not lying.
Xenofixus88: freak is guardian
P337 teh 1337: Freak was guardian ='[
Xenofixus88: ....
Xenofixus88: dancer
P337 teh 1337: What?
Xenofixus88: do not lie to me
Xenofixus88: what is going on
P337 teh 1337: That is what's going on.
P337 teh 1337: This is the truth.
P337 teh 1337: Why would I lie about THIS?
P337 teh 1337: Think about it, why would Freak, being seered, lie to ME, being seered?
Xenofixus88: was freak seered
Xenofixus88: cause sphrehoid said that blade was seered
P337 teh 1337: Blade wasn't seered, you know all of this, don't give me crap ;D
Xenofixus88: wtf
Xenofixus88: u mean i know all of this
P337 teh 1337: Freak told me you were in the plan.
Xenofixus88: what
Xenofixus88: what plan are u speaking of
P337 teh 1337: You're the only person that would know.
P337 teh 1337: The plan about Blade being the fake guardian, wolves killing Spheroid, etc.
Xenofixus88: what
Xenofixus88: there is a plan behind this
P337 teh 1337: Slacky.
Xenofixus88: dancer
P337 teh 1337: SLACKY.
P337 teh 1337: Don't give me crap, it'll dig yourself deeper into a hole.
P337 teh 1337: There's only two possibilities.
P337 teh 1337: If this is Spheroid's plot, it's way too deep, I don't get it.
P337 teh 1337: Alright, so what are you going to say?
P337 teh 1337: I want to know what TRUTH you have to say to this.
P337 teh 1337: But Spheroid could be a wolf.
Xenofixus88: i dont know
Xenofixus88: seriously dancer
Xenofixus88: i dont know what is going on
P337 teh 1337: Ok, first off.
P337 teh 1337: I am NOT a wolf, I want you to know that.
Xenofixus88: dancer
P337 teh 1337: Now there's really only two possibilities.
P337 teh 1337: Now think, how could Spheroid do all of this?
P337 teh 1337: If you can prove yourself human, you need to now.
Xenofixus88: dancer
Xenofixus88: im going to give it to u straight
P337 teh 1337: Ok.
Xenofixus88: sphrehoid
Xenofixus88: and freak
Xenofixus88: told me blade was guardian
P337 teh 1337: I know that.
Xenofixus88: okay
Xenofixus88: i didnt know freak
Xenofixus88: then freak
Xenofixus88: gets me into an alliance with these other guys
P337 teh 1337: k
Xenofixus88: then now
Xenofixus88: u guys are attacking me
Xenofixus88: for stuffi dont even know
Xenofixus88: u did lie
Xenofixus88: u know more then i did
Xenofixus88: cause i do nothing but lies from them
P337 teh 1337: I did lie, I did know more than you did, but I thought I had evidence, now I'm not sure.
P337 teh 1337: This is all the truth.
P337 teh 1337: But here's what I don't understand.
P337 teh 1337: Give me the truth, or you'll die, you can be sure of that.
P337 teh 1337: Freak told you he was the guardian.
Xenofixus88: NO
Xenofixus88: HE DID NOT
Xenofixus88: what do i got to get that into UR HEAD
Xenofixus88: THEY TOLD ME IT WAS BLADE
P337 teh 1337: Then why would Freak tell me that?
Xenofixus88: WTF IS GOING ON
P337 teh 1337: Then he told you otherwise.
P337 teh 1337: Freak was human.
P337 teh 1337: He would not lie about this.
Xenofixus88: dancer
Xenofixus88: wtf is going on
Xenofixus88: FREAK DID NOT TELL ME
P337 teh 1337: How did Freak not tell you?
Xenofixus88: ...
Xenofixus88: he told me
P337 teh 1337: Take a look at this, just a second.
Xenofixus88: blade was guardian
P337 teh 1337: Why would Freak pull a fake guardian role as a human?
P337 teh 1337: Tell me this.
Xenofixus88: no
Xenofixus88: u tell me
Xenofixus88: u know more then i
P337 teh 1337: Think about it.
P337 teh 1337: There would be no reason for Freak to lie.
Xenofixus88: i dont trust u
Xenofixus88: i dont know what is going on
Xenofixus88: freak did not tell me
P337 teh 1337: Slacky.
P337 teh 1337: Freak would not lie.
Xenofixus88: BUT U WOULD
P337 teh 1337: If you're still lying, stop.
P337 teh 1337: But Freak TOLD ME.
Xenofixus88: told u what
P337 teh 1337: That he told you.
Xenofixus88: cause he did not tell me
P337 teh 1337: Tell me this, too.
P337 teh 1337: If Spheroid had me and Freak hooked on an alliance, why would he go and kill Freak?
Xenofixus88: because
Xenofixus88: when u get in an alliance
Xenofixus88: they might get to close
Xenofixus88: wolves would want to make people believe they are in an alliance
P337 teh 1337: Yeah, but then he would keep the alliance going.
P337 teh 1337: There was no reason for him to kill Freak.
P337 teh 1337: He could kill me, then you, then someone else, etc.
P337 teh 1337: But he would not kill Freak, then there would be no traces to him.
Xenofixus88: then ask urself this
Xenofixus88: if i was wolf y would i fall into such an easy trap
Xenofixus88: theres someone behind this
P337 teh 1337: How is it an easy trap?
Xenofixus88: look
Xenofixus88: if i knew freak was guardian
Xenofixus88: and i knew sprehoid was told i know then why would i kill him
Xenofixus88: that would easily give myself away
P337 teh 1337: omg
P337 teh 1337: you're right.
Xenofixus88: Y
Xenofixus88: ask urself
Xenofixus88: dancer do u think im stupid
P337 teh 1337: But that doesn't explain Freak.
P337 teh 1337: Do you think I'm stupid?
Xenofixus88: no
Xenofixus88: i told u before
Xenofixus88: ur one of the smartest jtwg players ive ever seen
Xenofixus88: ur going to be a better twg player then i will be
P337 teh 1337: Do you think Freak would pull something on ME, that doesn't make sense..
Xenofixus88: dancer
Xenofixus88: THATS WHAT UR ALL DOING TO ME
P337 teh 1337: k, but none of that right now ;D
Xenofixus88: dancer
Xenofixus88: y
Xenofixus88: y y y
P337 teh 1337: Because Freak told me.
Xenofixus88: dancer
Xenofixus88: someone is behind this
Xenofixus88: wtf
P337 teh 1337: Alright, I'm going to come out with it.
P337 teh 1337: I think you are.
Xenofixus88: are what??
P337 teh 1337: Behind this, think about it.
P337 teh 1337: Freak had to have told you, he would not let it fall apart like this.
Xenofixus88: dancer
Xenofixus88: he did not tell me
Xenofixus88: they told me blade
Xenofixus88: read spheroid post
Xenofixus88: it proves id idnt know
Xenofixus88: they told me blade was guardian
Xenofixus88: look
P337 teh 1337: They told you Blade was guardian.
Xenofixus88: yes
P337 teh 1337: Then Freak told you the truth.
Xenofixus88: nope

daniel_lewis20
February 19th, 2005, 10:02 PM
Ok, after talking to both slacky and danceguy, here's what I think about this whole convo conviction. I know Freak personally and I know the way he plays his strategies, he carefully plans them and plots them out carefully. Plus I have proof of an alliance between him and three other humans. Now Freak wouldn't come directly out and tell people he was the guardian unless he trusted them enough to tell them. Now, those in the alliance knew that he was a human, nothing more, and he probably wanted to keep it that way. Now on to my suspicions, after reading slacky's convo with spheroid, I think Slacky's more confused if anything because we all thought blade was the guardian. Now why wouldn't the wolves go after Spheroid instead of Freak unless they were playing smart strategy trying to find the special roled humans. Now that leaves me to suspect Spheroid more then Slacky. Why wouldn't Freak tell any of his other alliance members that Spheroid was in on it unless he suspected him. I find it really hard to believe that Freak would blame someone who he trusted and who he's known for most of his life. Until someone comes out with better evidence than little bits of convos that could easily be manipulated into bandwagoning on one individual, then I'm not convinced. I'll vote tomorrow once I contact a couple of Freak's alliance members and find out what the heck is going on

dAnceguy117
February 19th, 2005, 10:05 PM
More. I'm talking to Slacky, that wasn't the whole convo, that was just what I wanted to prove my point. Sorry for any misunderstandings, Slacky has been acting much better in the latter half.

We need to figure this out. Other input would help.

Spheroid
February 19th, 2005, 10:12 PM
The alliance members. Freak, me (spheroid), Danceguy, slacky

These are all of the people that took part in the plan at different points. I seered danceguy yesterday. We were never sure on slacky. He did what we needed him to do, but he was the only one were weren't 100% sure on. We had to rely on him. As you'll see in a later post of mine, I tried to get beefstu to do the work, but failed. Slacky the person freak could dare to trust the most. He had told freak that he was the psychic last game. Slacky's the only one who would've known the smartest person to kill was freak. Next, I'll also post the convo between the alliance minus slacky

Freak83
February 19th, 2005, 10:12 PM
ugh.... I seem to have bad luck with early deaths. Well at least I got to do something this game.

Spheroid
February 19th, 2005, 10:16 PM
I posted four different convos, gamepro

Beefstu, if you want to know why I wasn't wolfed, read my other four posts before yours. It clearly explains that freak was the gaurdian gaurding me, and that our accomplice, slacky, was actually a wolf, and got them to kill freak so they could kill me tonight. The point of the whole plan before was to have them try to kill me, and fail because freak was gaurding me. Because the wolves knew the whole plan, they knew they had to kill freak first, then me. If you still deny this, it is even more proof that both you and slacky are wolves. A wolf would never vote for another wolf

I forgot, here's my evidence on beefstu. It's not for sure, it just made me suspect him.

This is what I really consider my noob error. I almost messed up the entire plan by getting someone involved you didn't need to be. Here's the questionable converasation with beefstu:

Beef Stu 980: Hello.
spheroiddice: hey
Beef Stu 980: How's jTWGIII going for you so far?
spheroiddice: pretty good, I haven't really been able to do anything yet.
spheroiddice: so, are you a wolf or human?
Beef Stu 980: I am a human.
Beef Stu 980: Have you talked to many of the other players yet?>
spheroiddice: no
spheroiddice: have you?
Beef Stu 980: Not really. I've just managed to say "Hi" to maybe half of them.
spheroiddice: get any clues from them? maybe post a few of the chats
Beef Stu 980: I've got nothing so far.
Beef Stu 980: babybenji2004 claims to be human, however.
Beef Stu 980: I guess no-one would claim to be a wolf, though.
spheroiddice: people just ask because they have nothing better to say.
Beef Stu 980: Do you have a special role?
spheroiddice: yeah, seer
Beef Stu 980: Neat-o.
Beef Stu 980: Who did you See last night?
spheroiddice: sorry, got caught up in an argument with my mom. Ironically, I saw blademonkey
spheroiddice: sad story, he was the gaurdian
Beef Stu 980: Well, crap.
spheroiddice: wait, plan:
spheroiddice: this will prove you're human. Go on the forum and post something like "OMG, I heard that blademonkey was the gaurdian. We're screwed!"
spheroiddice: hello, please respond.
Beef Stu 980: How will that prove I'm human?
spheroiddice: you'll see. I told someone to back you up after you post.
Beef Stu 980: I don't think I'm trusting enough for this plan.
Beef Stu 980: Who's this "someone"?
spheroiddice: if your a wolf, you'd wolf him
Beef Stu 980: I'm not a wolf.
spheroiddice: k, it's slacky
spheroiddice: u going to post it?
Beef Stu 980: I'm thinking over it.
spheroiddice: ok
Beef Stu 980: Is there a jTWG chat going on?
spheroiddice: try to make up your mind. I have to leave soon, and I need to make sure this gets posted
spheroiddice: dunno
Beef Stu 980: I'm not going to.
spheroiddice: y
Beef Stu 980: I don't want to make the first post. :-\
spheroiddice: will you if someone else makes a post before hadn?
spheroiddice: *hand
Beef Stu 980: Sure.
spheroiddice: k, i'll convince someone else to post something.
spheroiddice: k, slacky's probably going to post something. After that, back him up on the line (make sure it sounds like the same story). If someone else makes the first post, just do what was planned earlier
spheroiddice: r u still on
Beef Stu 980: I'm here.
spheroiddice: I just was looking over the post, if you saw, Freak already said somthing
spheroiddice: so can you make the post?
Beef Stu 980 is away at 6:47:46 PM.
Beef Stu 980 returned at 7:02:21 PM.
spheroiddice: an answer would be nice
Beef Stu 980: Sorry; I'm a bit busy right now. I'll make a post as soon as I can. Shouldn't be too long.
Beef Stu 980 is away at 7:11:22 PM.

This is an odd chat. There's a ton of things that don't make sense. I was trying to sell him on the plan I mentioned above without telling too much. I think he's a wolf mainly cause he didn't argue a few points I made that didn't make sence. One, when I said "if your a wolf, you'd wolf him" he just said he wasn't a wolf. He didin't even question why he'd wolf slacky if he was a wolf in that context. Two, he logged off or didn't respond when I asked him if he'd make the post. During the convo, this was very annoying. Three, i have trouble explaining this one, but the intelligent should get it. He didn't question my statement "this will prove your human" very much.

I think it can be concluded from all this that beefstu is either a wolf, or a noob not worth much to the team. When I am gone, by murder or lyniching, and if you are ever in doubt over who to kill, beefstu should be a good choice, cause he's not worth either much to us any way we put it.

If you have anything for or against beefstu, please post it. I'm nowhere near sure that beefstu is actually (a) a wolf, or (b) a noobish player.

daniel_lewis20
February 19th, 2005, 10:19 PM
Hate to break this to you Spheroid, but the only alliance Freak told me about was the alliance that he made himself, which he had told me every member that was in it and it didn't include you. Freak doens't trust that easily, nor do I. You have absolutely no proof of Freak's accusations, only that you and danceguy are in some conspiracy to get Slcky lynched. Therefore, it's making danceguy and yourself look more like wolves if anything.

Spheroid
February 19th, 2005, 10:20 PM
The first and last alliance meeting:

You have just entered room "jTWG Seer."
P337 teh 1337 has entered the room.
Real Freak83: greetings
P337 teh 1337: Hey.
polyspheroid: Hi
Real Freak83: congratulations
Real Freak83: you have been seer'd
P337 teh 1337: Whoa, I got your screen name wrong.
P337 teh 1337: :D
Real Freak83: and we know you're a human ^^
P337 teh 1337: ^_^
polyspheroid: I have two
P337 teh 1337: :D
Real Freak83: now, i need to explain something to you danceguy
P337 teh 1337: Too bad you're probably dead now >_<
P337 teh 1337: ?
polyspheroid: No
P337 teh 1337: ?
Real Freak83: everything you have witnessed so far in jTWG has been part of an act
P337 teh 1337: omg
polyspheroid: I'm not that stupid
P337 teh 1337: Ok.
P337 teh 1337: GOOD.
P337 teh 1337: :D
Real Freak83: i am the guardian, don't tell anyone
P337 teh 1337: Okay.
P337 teh 1337: Whoa o_O
polyspheroid: I seered him on the first night, and then we came up with a plan
Real Freak83: when morning comes, he'll be alive and protected
P337 teh 1337: Ah.
Real Freak83: everyone will know for a fact he is in fact a human
P337 teh 1337: I knew Blade wasn't the guardian, I just knew it!
Real Freak83: there is no further reason they should doubt he'd not the seer
P337 teh 1337: Yes.
P337 teh 1337: :D
Real Freak83: he can reveal each wolf every new day once we find them
Real Freak83: the only other person in on this whole plan is slacky
P337 teh 1337: Whoa.
Real Freak83: we don't know if he's a human 100% but i'm very certain myself that he is
P337 teh 1337: Last I heard, he really believed Blade was the guardian o_O
P337 teh 1337: ok.
Real Freak83: anyway, this is the real human alliance
P337 teh 1337: Yey ^_^'
polyspheroid: If freak dies tonight, we know slacky's a wolf
Real Freak83: yes
P337 teh 1337: Ah.
P337 teh 1337: :D
Real Freak83: if he's human as i believe he is, then most likly the wolves will try to kill spheroid and fail
P337 teh 1337: Yeah.
polyspheroid: So freak, did you tell slacky everything?
Real Freak83: he knows everything, except that danceguy has been seered
P337 teh 1337: Ah.
polyspheroid: k
Real Freak83: cause i haven't spoken to him yet
P337 teh 1337: Do we know who the psychic is?
Real Freak83: no
P337 teh 1337: Ah.
Real Freak83: right now our main wolf suspician is beefstu
P337 teh 1337: Hm, okay.
Real Freak83: though we don't have tons of evidence for that, it's just our only lead
Real Freak83: spheroid, you still have the log for that?
polyspheroid: yes
P337 teh 1337: I have a convo with him saved.
P337 teh 1337: ^_^
Real Freak83: what do you think about him?
P337 teh 1337: Before any of this, he was also the only person I truly had suspicions about.
polyspheroid: brb, I need to find it
P337 teh 1337: Except for Spheroid, because of this whole thing XD
Real Freak83: lol
P337 teh 1337: I didn't tell anyone, but I honestly thought he was a wolf up until now.
Real Freak83: we told slacky to say that blademonkey was the guardian and he was dead, so the wolves would have a clear path to kill the seer when he "slipped up"
P337 teh 1337: I was so confuzzled XD
P337 teh 1337: :D
P337 teh 1337: Good thinkin'
P337 teh 1337: Ah, now everything makes sense.
Real Freak83: yup
polyspheroid: should I paste the conversation with beefstu here?
P337 teh 1337: Sure, you might have to paste it in two parts though.
P337 teh 1337: I'm gonna look over mine.
polyspheroid: This is going to take a while to post up
P337 teh 1337: Yeah.
polyspheroid: Anyway to make it so I can paste it all at once?
Real Freak83: you'll have to talk to to him in a private window
P337 teh 1337: mmhmm.
polyspheroid: how do you start a direct connection, freak?
P337 teh 1337: People, open direct IM connection.
Real Freak83: click on the little picture that looks like a window
Real Freak83: the only thing i'm confused about right now, is in the morning should spheroid say that you're a human
P337 teh 1337: Hm.
Real Freak83: because then no-one would try to lynch you, but the only way you could die is if the wolves killed you
Real Freak83: so that might make you a direct target
P337 teh 1337: With Spheroid guardianed, your plan has to come to surface.
P337 teh 1337: Yeah, that's true.
P337 teh 1337: You should probably only bring it up if you need to or something.
polyspheroid: If we convince the wolves they need to find the gaurdian, then they'll won't go for him, but do we want to do that?
P337 teh 1337: Or at least part of the plan.
P337 teh 1337: Hm.
P337 teh 1337: Here's a problem.
Real Freak83: right now the wolves have to think the guardian is dead
P337 teh 1337: Yes.
Real Freak83: in case they still haven't voted
P337 teh 1337: But when Spheroid is guardianed, they'll know.
Real Freak83: i know
Real Freak83: that's why i have to keep a low profile in this game
P337 teh 1337: No.
P337 teh 1337: Idea.
Real Freak83: accidently setting a bandwagon on day 1 was not good
P337 teh 1337: Yes, keep a very low profile.
P337 teh 1337: Yeah, but there's nothing we can do about that now.
P337 teh 1337: We should act like there's no alliance.
P337 teh 1337: Then the wolves have no lead on the guardian.
Real Freak83: yes
polyspheroid: How much of the plan should we reveal on the forums?
Real Freak83: not too much
Real Freak83: you never bring my name into it, that's obvious
polyspheroid: yeah, obviously
Real Freak83: well, most of the plan will probably be understandable when you survive anyway
Real Freak83: the only thing that can screw us over right now is if the wolves vote for someone else other than you
polyspheroid: should I tell them I'm in contact with the gaurdian?
polyspheroid: They need to trust that I'm not stupid
Real Freak83: yeah, probably
Real Freak83: you could tell them that
Real Freak83: we'll have to seem a lot more distant then
P337 teh 1337: Yeah.
Real Freak83: i'd say don't reveal that danceguy is a human
P337 teh 1337: Same here.
P337 teh 1337: If we do that, then the wolves know an alliance is at least coming.
polyspheroid: same
Real Freak83: rather say that if you're seer'd and are a human, you will be contacted by a member of the alliance, if you are a wolf, your name will be revealed by Spheroid in the morning
P337 teh 1337: So, act like I'm the next to be seered?
P337 teh 1337: I didn't quite follow XD
Real Freak83: hmm, i'm not completely sure what you should be doing
Real Freak83: right now the alliance is me, spheroid, danceguy, slacky
polyspheroid: What freak said is what I'll say the next day
P337 teh 1337: Should we try to give the wolves another fake lead, but this one less obvious?
P337 teh 1337: k
polyspheroid: What if we announce that beefstu is human?
polyspheroid: just a random thought
P337 teh 1337: Hm.
P337 teh 1337: What would happen?
Real Freak83: *thinking*
P337 teh 1337: What would you do if you were a wolf, and you heard you were seered human?
Real Freak83: the psychic might reveal himself to beefstu
P337 teh 1337: Yeah, that would be bad >_<
polyspheroid: assuming he's a wolf, the wolves would think I'm fake
polyspheroid: this probably isn't a good idea
Real Freak83: yeah, i don't think so either
P337 teh 1337: Yeah.
polyspheroid: as I said, it was a random thought
P337 teh 1337: Well, we need thoughts to get somewhere ;D
P337 teh 1337: Thinking out loud ain't a bad idea when you're among humans ;D
Real Freak83: right now i'm sort of part of another human alliance
polyspheroid: true
P337 teh 1337: Who?
Real Freak83: though i have no proof any of them are humans
P337 teh 1337: Ah.
Real Freak83: danlewis and patron
P337 teh 1337: Mmhmm.
Real Freak83: and slacky is part of that oo
Real Freak83: too*
P337 teh 1337: I've been talking to Dan a lot.
polyspheroid: be careful, never trust your friends
P337 teh 1337: He said he was going to invite me but I had to leave.
Real Freak83: i'm mainly doing that to avoid lynch votes from them
P337 teh 1337: Ah.
polyspheroid: good idea
Real Freak83: but i'm not going to be too open with them in case they're wolves
P337 teh 1337: Mmhmm.
P337 teh 1337: Should we lay another ploy for the wolves?
Real Freak83: can you think of anything?
polyspheroid: when talking to them, think about what you would say if you're just a regular human in this game
polyspheroid: *thinking*
P337 teh 1337: Yeah.
polyspheroid: what if we announce freak is human (random thought)
P337 teh 1337: Then it looks like there's an alliance forming =/
Real Freak83: terrible idea
polyspheroid: good point
Real Freak83: that brings attention to me
Real Freak83: which is the #1 thing to avoid
P337 teh 1337: We should keep Freak out of all of this.
polyspheroid: That means we pobably should stay clear of any plan that announces someone being human
P337 teh 1337: Yeah.
Real Freak83: yes
Real Freak83: only announce wolve
Real Freak83: s
P337 teh 1337: Hey, we might have a way of fishing wolves out of that other alliance.
Real Freak83: what do you mean?
polyspheroid: Real Freak83: rather say that if you're seer'd and are a human, you will be contacted by a member of the alliance, if you are a wolf, your name will be revealed by Spheroid in the morning
polyspheroid: We should probably post something along the lines of that
P337 teh 1337: Wait, nevermind, you've got your hands full guardianing Spheroid XD
P337 teh 1337: Who is the 'you'?
Real Freak83: whoever is seer'd
polyspheroid: I think on the fourth night, we may be able to risk not gaurding me
P337 teh 1337: No, I don't think we should bring this alliance to light, but that's just me.
polyspheroid: it may be a different night
P337 teh 1337: Yeah.
P337 teh 1337: Depends how far in the game.
polyspheroid: Then again, freak could die by then
Real Freak83: i sure hope not
P337 teh 1337: Damn you better not die XD
P337 teh 1337: We should try to keep the wolves hooked.
polyspheroid: If we convince them to try to find the gaurdian, they'll never know when it's safe to try to kill me or not
polyspheroid: and we probably don't even have to convince them to do so
P337 teh 1337: The wolves know Spheroid is the seer, and they will probably know that the guardian is still alive, so what would they turn to next?
polyspheroid: trying to kill the gaurdian, or if they're smart, killing the smart active people
P337 teh 1337: Hm.
P337 teh 1337: Who is that?
P337 teh 1337: XD
polyspheroid: every good idea anyone has in this alliance can be posted by me, since they won't be able to kill me
P337 teh 1337: Mmhmm.
polyspheroid: well, you were one of the smarter players, danceguy
P337 teh 1337: Ooh really? ;D
polyspheroid: smarter
P337 teh 1337: Oh.
polyspheroid: jk
P337 teh 1337: XD
P337 teh 1337: Nice.
P337 teh 1337: Hm, we should try to get a lead on a wolf right now.
P337 teh 1337: How can we get a wolf to trip up?
P337 teh 1337: Ooh, and what about BeefStu?
polyspheroid: Talk to them. Everyone leaves small clues about their alliances in every chat
polyspheroid: Beefstu definately di
polyspheroid: *did
P337 teh 1337: Mmhmm.
P337 teh 1337: Ooh, who should we be targeting with the seering?
P337 teh 1337: Like, should we use it to try to find wolves?
polyspheroid: We need to start getting rid of wolves, so yes
P337 teh 1337: Yeah.
polyspheroid: if we just try to build this alliance, we'll just die
P337 teh 1337: Yeah.
P337 teh 1337: Should we keep BeefStu under the radar, and seer him night 3?
polyspheroid: What if we post a request for the psycic to contact me
P337 teh 1337: Hm.
polyspheroid: I'd like to see who tries
P337 teh 1337: Yes, but how can we sort out the fake ones from the real ones?
polyspheroid: It couldn't hurt, and it may gives some clues about who's a wolf
polyspheroid: no regular human would do it
polyspheroid: only wolves, and the real psychic
P337 teh 1337: But what if the psychic feels it's too risky, and a wolf tries?
P337 teh 1337: Then we only have one.
P337 teh 1337: And we've got a wolf in the alliance ='[
polyspheroid: We won't make any conclusions on it. We'll just use it to back up facts
polyspheroid: We won't use it to find the psychic, just to find wolves
P337 teh 1337: Hm.
P337 teh 1337: I still don't get how, though.
polyspheroid: We'll ask each person to tell us how many wolves are left
P337 teh 1337: The psychic does something different in this game.
polyspheroid: It may not get us anywhere, but it can't hurt trying
P337 teh 1337: Oh wait.
P337 teh 1337: Math ='[
P337 teh 1337: Hm.
P337 teh 1337: First we have to consider any risks.
polyspheroid: of course
P337 teh 1337: And where's Freak?
polyspheroid: dunno
Real Freak83: sry i'm being harassed on the phone
Real Freak83: one sec
P337 teh 1337: XD
polyspheroid: They already know I'm the seer . . .
P337 teh 1337: Yeah.
P337 teh 1337: So a psychic or wolf contacts you, or both.
P337 teh 1337: What happens then?
polyspheroid: just a sec
P337 teh 1337: k
polyspheroid: they know that we can seer them . . .
polyspheroid: if one contacts us, we seer him
P337 teh 1337: Hm.
P337 teh 1337: That's true.
polyspheroid: if two contact us, we'll first ask each one how many wolves are left to each one
P337 teh 1337: They both probably know.
P337 teh 1337: Hm.
polyspheroid: If they both tell the truth, we'll know if Rye_Bread was a wolf
P337 teh 1337: Yeah.
P337 teh 1337: What if they don't?
polyspheroid: What reasons do they have to lie?
P337 teh 1337: Hm.
P337 teh 1337: I don't know XD
polyspheroid: In the post, we can probably convince them that we'll know if they're lying
P337 teh 1337: Hm, how?
polyspheroid: dunno yet, but it seems like it'd be easy
P337 teh 1337: Ah.
polyspheroid: first we need to decide if we want to use the plan
P337 teh 1337: Alright, how should we ask for the psychic?
P337 teh 1337: Yeah.
polyspheroid: haven't thought about that yet, just a sec
P337 teh 1337: k
polyspheroid: Maybe tell them that we don't know about rye_bread yet, and we can't waste a night seeing him. We need the psychic to contact me
Real Freak83: you can't seer someone dead
Real Freak83: plain and simply ask the psychic to contact you
P337 teh 1337: I think he meant BeefStu XD
Real Freak83: oh
P337 teh 1337: Wait.
polyspheroid: no, I meant rye_bread
P337 teh 1337: Whoa.
P337 teh 1337: Confuzzled.
polyspheroid: I didn't know that you can't seer a dead person
Real Freak83: don't tell anyone who claims to be the psychic who anyone else is
Real Freak83: just tell us who talks to you
polyspheroid: of course
P337 teh 1337: Yeah.
polyspheroid: as I said before, were doing this to try to find wolves, not to find the psychic
polyspheroid: although we very well could find the psychic along the way
P337 teh 1337: We should probably look over page 2, there's probably a wolf or two at work from the bandwagoning.
Real Freak83: Something tells me that people know i wouldn't be a wolf, but they'd kill me just the same. LOL
Real Freak83: that's a quote of Rye_Bread's on page one
P337 teh 1337: Oh yeah XD
P337 teh 1337: Hm.
polyspheroid: maybe he was part of a different alliance and plan
polyspheroid: just a thought
P337 teh 1337: Possibly, but who would the alliance center around?
P337 teh 1337: And who's left for an alliance?
polyspheroid: very smart wolves
P337 teh 1337: Hm.
P337 teh 1337: I don't see where this is getting us =/
Real Freak83: we can't really go anywhere right now
polyspheroid: me neither. i have a new idea
Real Freak83: we don't have enough information
P337 teh 1337: What is it?
polyspheroid: Read what qualy said on page one
P337 teh 1337: Yeah, day 2 needs to start ^_^
P337 teh 1337: Yeah?
Real Freak83: danceguy, right now i think you should probably keep saying that you're waiting for spheroid to sign on so you can talk to him before he dies
P337 teh 1337: Yeah, good idea.
Real Freak83: maybe you can stage a conversation later, who knows
polyspheroid: I'm not going to sign in on my other name until all of us agree on it
Real Freak83: well not really neccisary i think
P337 teh 1337: Yeah.
P337 teh 1337: Oh yeah, I just remembered, Deltro is playing XD
P337 teh 1337: Whoa, look at BeefStu's post, right after mine.
polyspheroid: BeefStu seems like a very noobish wolf
polyspheroid: in everything I've seen at least
P337 teh 1337: Yeah.
P337 teh 1337: But we need more information, and that can't come until day 2 starts.
P337 teh 1337: But my post says to hold off on the voting, and then his post is just a vote o_O
polyspheroid: just talked to gamepro. said he's feeling better and may be able to write the story tonight
P337 teh 1337: He just said that to me too XD
P337 teh 1337: He said he can to me.
P337 teh 1337: :D
polyspheroid: If beefstu's a wolf, he was probably trying to encourge the bandwagoning on a human
P337 teh 1337: Yeah.
P337 teh 1337: If he's a human, he's an extremely noob human >_<
polyspheroid: what if rye_bread was trying to say he was the psychic in his first post
polyspheroid: but probably not
P337 teh 1337: Hm.
polyspheroid: I just remember reading deltro's post form jtwg II. He might have tried something of the same (and failed miserably)
P337 teh 1337: Hm, I'm not sure.
P337 teh 1337: If he did, it's very well hidden o_O
polyspheroid: yeah, it's just that one odd quote might have some meaning
polyspheroid: I'm sure he planned on saying that second line when he wrote it
P337 teh 1337: It doesn't look like it's hinting anything.
polyspheroid: yeah, well since we don't have anything else to discuss, I thougt I 'd bring it up
polyspheroid: maybe he was just trying to see if he could get a bandwagon against himself for fun
P337 teh 1337: Tied together with the paragraph before it, it just looks like he's poking fun at himself for being unpopular from his anti-Gamepro posts.
polyspheroid: Anyway, I think what qualy said on the first page has some meaning
P337 teh 1337: Hm, what specifically?
polyspheroid: Either he's a wolf, or he's right about the wolves being noobs
polyspheroid: or he's wrong
Real Freak83: =/
P337 teh 1337: That's weird XD
polyspheroid: it may help to seer him
P337 teh 1337: Qualy?
P337 teh 1337: Hm.
P337 teh 1337: What about BeefStu?
polyspheroid: we should probably seer him first
P337 teh 1337: Who?
polyspheroid: beefstu
P337 teh 1337: Ah, yeah.
polyspheroid: Ther's a whole day until we have to decide who to seer
P337 teh 1337: I guess we should look at what happens during day 2 before we decide that, though.
P337 teh 1337: Yeah.
polyspheroid: Freak, any more ideas?
polyspheroid: Anyone have any more ideas?
P337 teh 1337: Hm, I don't think I do.
P337 teh 1337: What if someone notices that if you seered Blade, he still could've been the psychic?
polyspheroid: Would that actually do anything?
Real Freak83: i don't think he was
P337 teh 1337: I don't either.
Real Freak83: well w/e it won't make a difference, it should be obvious on day 2 blade was not actually seer'd
polyspheroid: with his first death post and all . . .
P337 teh 1337: But that's what led me to believe that Spheroid could've been trying to pull something.
P337 teh 1337: Oh yeah.
P337 teh 1337: True.
P337 teh 1337: What did his first death post say?
P337 teh 1337: Err, nevermind.
P337 teh 1337: If LD had to edit it, I shouldn't know XD
P337 teh 1337: Hm, so any ideas?
polyspheroid: If we tell everyone that if they're seered, they will be contacted by the alliance, then they'll assume the actuall person I seered night one is in the alliance and is human
polyspheroid: doing this may give away slacky, though (if people are smart)
P337 teh 1337: Sure, but how will that help?
P337 teh 1337: Yeah, true.
Real Freak83: unfortunatly i saw his post before it was edited, i won't give anything away though out of respect for the game
polyspheroid: sorry I brought it up
P337 teh 1337: ok
P337 teh 1337: I just won't ask ;D
P337 teh 1337: So, are we done here?
P337 teh 1337: My dad wants on =[
polyspheroid: think so, we'll decide what to do after day 2 starts
P337 teh 1337: Ok.
P337 teh 1337: Arright, if anything comes to light, I'll be on later.
polyspheroid: We'll pm you if anything happens
P337 teh 1337: Ok.
Real Freak83: yup
Real Freak83: bye bye
P337 teh 1337: See ya.
P337 teh 1337 has left the room.
polyspheroid: I'm planning on going just because I've been on the computer too much today. Anything else to say, Freak?

slackygorgeking
February 19th, 2005, 10:21 PM
[quote="Spheroid"]Yet another convo with Freak
Real Freak83: if i die tonight, then we know - SLACKY IS A WOLF
i did not know freak was guardian

but two people did know
DANCER AND SPHEROID KNEW they played freak into breaking our alliance
freak did not tell me. we had an alliance with others and its been broken
freak never told about this alliance nor the alliance so it leads me to believe u guys wolfed him and are now trying to frame me

Rebirth0
February 19th, 2005, 10:35 PM
Wow, this must be a hard game XD

I'm glad you guys are trying hard to find the wolves though.

Spheroid
February 19th, 2005, 10:36 PM
I remember freak saying he told you everything at the time before I said I was the seer. Of course you never knew danceguy was part of it. I seered him last night, after "everything" was said to you.


The only reason you're saying freak never told you he was the gaurdian is because there is no other way to get yourself out of a certain lynching. Look at the evidence stacked on you.

Here's a clarification. The four alliance members I mentioned were not alliance members the whole way through. In the begining in was freak, me, and slacky. We (freak and I) never told slacky that we seered dancerguy. We wanted to have the alliance meeting in 100% safety.

Freak was gaurding me. There's no reason for me to want him dead. Think about it. If a wolf has the gaurdian in a spot where he'll gaurd him every night, it's a certain win.

slackygorgeking
February 19th, 2005, 10:43 PM
NOOOOOO
ur wrong i was never in ur alliance give me a post where i said anything with u give me a conv. i never did becaues i dont join alliances that easily. ur lying to me and u lied to freak. freak would not go so far behind our alliances back. u framed him, me.

im not sure ur even the seer

daniel_lewis20
February 19th, 2005, 10:48 PM
Ok, I'm getting real sick of this talk about Freak being in an alliance with you and danceguy and he refused to tell me and the other alliance members. Also, he did tell us of a plan he was setting up on the suspected wolves, which worked out nicely. Therefore, our plan was a success, luring out two of the people that we suspected. I vote Spheroid

slackygorgeking
February 19th, 2005, 10:50 PM
so our plan works out perfectly. we lured out the wolves and we caught the false seer. arg
was rye seer it might of been because U started the band wagon
spheroid our plan worked perfectly wer lured out two wolves

Spheroid
February 19th, 2005, 10:57 PM
Give up Slacky,

Look through my first conversation with Freak. The only way possible to gain absolute trust on the first night is to be the seer, and seer the gaurdian, or psychic. Think about it. There is no other way to convice them fully you're not a wolf. Freak is the kind of person who would not make the alliance if there was not that kind of proof. Plus, I would never want Freak dead. He agreed to gaurd me for the rest of the game. That makes a wolf invincible.

You obviously joined to help out because, being a wolf, you got information you could use to kill the seer and gaurdian consecutively. But think about it. Having the knowledge Freak gave you, any player would've helped out. A regular player would do it to help out his side. A wolf would do it for the reasons mentioned above.

ddrruler
February 19th, 2005, 11:02 PM
I vote Spheroid. I think I may be jumping to conclusions a bit, but he said outright that he was seer, and I don't see why the wolves would not take that kind of opportunity to off one of the most useful players for the humans.Spheroid

Rebirth0
February 19th, 2005, 11:13 PM
Spheroid - 5
slacky - 1

BeefStu
February 19th, 2005, 11:16 PM
To address the accusations Spheroid has made against me:

1) One, when I said "if your a wolf, you'd wolf him" he just said he wasn't a wolf. He didin't even question why he'd wolf slacky if he was a wolf in that context.
What more is there to say? I'm not a wolf. How can I offer anything else other than my word? What proof is there in this game? And "if your a wolf, you'd wolf him", Slacky should have been killed. But Freak was. This accusation doesn't hold water.

2) Two, he logged off or didn't respond when I asked him if he'd make the post.
I'm very sorry for this, but I can't answer ever IM within 30 seconds of receiving it. That night, relatives needed to be greeted, and dinner needed help being prepared. I'm sure these things happen to everyone. Not exactly a reason to call for a lynching. (My mashed potatoes were a big favorite, by the way.)

3) Three, i have trouble explaining this one, but the intelligent should get it. He didn't question my statement "this will prove your human" very much.
Here's a great quote for those who are keeping score at home:
Beef Stu 980: How will that prove I'm human?
spheroiddice: you'll see. I told someone to back you up after you post.
I did question it. You stonewalled my question and would have me go out on a limb, and I didn't think that was wise. And it's quite clear that you didn't get it.

When I am gone, by murder or lyniching, and if you are ever in doubt over who to kill, beefstu should be a good choice, cause he's not worth either much to us any way we put it.
All humans are valuable, regardless of a lack of special role or lack of playing experience. And if you are ever in doubt of who to lynch, go for the most likely wolf.

If you have anything for or against beefstu, please post it. I'm nowhere near sure that beefstu is actually (a) a wolf, or (b) a noobish player.
I have something for BeefStu, so I'll post it: I think he's a trustworthy human and though a bit green, isn't too "noobish".

I'm going to reaffirm my vote for Spheroid.

P.S.: Please capitalize my name.

Rebirth0
February 19th, 2005, 11:20 PM
I could have the Night 3 story up tonight if we got one more vote on Spheroid. DO NOT VOTE ON HIM TO GET DAY 2 OVER WITH. You guys don't know that he is a wolf.

Spheroid
February 19th, 2005, 11:38 PM
Beefstu,

I do have to admit that conversation was terrible on my part. I didn't make any sense most of the time, which probably left you wanting to not question to much so I wouldn't get angry. At the time I made that post, I was overloaded with with twg stuff. I still am and it's past twelve. Beefstu was probably trying to just see where I was going in that one. I'm still suspicious, but not as much so. If I live tonight, I'll seer you and post the honest results. And if I don't live through the night I'll somehow get it out that night, before I die.

Anyway, I do call that conversation I had with you my biggest noob error. Please don't have any flase impressions of beefstu because of this. I would also really like to take back my accusation of calling beefstu a noob. You obviously just wanted to see where I was going.

I must've repeated myself 100 times in that. :(

Spheroid
February 19th, 2005, 11:42 PM
First, I made the post above after slacky's "NOOOOOOO" post

Dan_lewis, check through the conversations I posted. In there, there is freak telling you I'm the seer. Feak's plan worked out nicely until freak got killed. Check trough my posts again.

Slacky, I have to congradulate you, your putting up a tough argument. PEOPLE HAVE TO LOOK THROUGH THE CONVERSATIONS I'VE POSTED. It says in them how I went along and bandwagoned with freak to make me look more like a noob so my slip up would be more believable. People should be able to see that Dan and Slacky don't have nearly as much evidence as I do.

ddrruler, your choice of voting on me makes no sense. Qualy posted that before I had the chance to post anything. Notice he says "I may be jumping to conclusions." After his message, I explained fully why the wolves killed Freak over me. Either you are bandwagoning, or you're a wolf, ddrruler.

As a message to everyone, no one who has voted appears to have even glanced at my previous posts. This leads me to think they may be wolves. If I die, remember this list: Slacky, ddrruler, and Dan_Lewis. They all appear to disregard any information I've given. If I get lynched now, remeber if you see that combo of people or a similar one accusing a person, they very well might be wolves.

Tsuteto
February 19th, 2005, 11:44 PM
GRAH! So freaking confusing.... Sorry for not posting though. Anyways, I can't really quite decide who to vote for... but for now, I'm just going with ddrruler. Whenever he makes a post, it's due to bandwagoning. This goes for either a) he's still a big n00b at this or b) he's a wolf, and doing it n00bishly.

Bad accusations, I know, but for now, I can't decide between the three others I have.

qualy
February 20th, 2005, 12:33 AM
I'm still not sure about this, keep in mind.

Other than the fact that Freak was very smart, there wasn't really any other reason to target him for the wolves, unless they knew he was a guardian somehow. Why would the wolves go after him in particular? There are plenty of very smart people in this game, so what would be the chances that they would just so happen to land right on the guardian? And who are the only people who knew who the real guardian was? I think one or more of the wolves was in that alliance. For now, I'm not changing my vote. (although it may be a bit late by the time night comes around :P)

Spheroid
February 20th, 2005, 12:43 AM
People who knew the real gaurdian:

Freak - he was the gaurdian
Spheroid - had an alliance with the gaurdian cause he seered him
Slacky - Freak told him so he would agree to help with plan
Danceguy - Seered by Spheroid night 2 and let in on alliance

Two reasons the wolves went after Freak:

1. They weren't convinced I was the seer, and they got lucky hitting Freak

2. Slacky, the only person let in on the fact that freak was gaurdian and wasn't verified as being human, told the wolves freak was in an alliance with Spheroid. They then knew they had to take out Freak to take out Spheroid.

Which one's more probable, you decide. Any other ideas of why freak was killed are welcome

qualy
February 20th, 2005, 12:50 AM
I'm going to change my vote to slacky just because he's the next most suspicious player, and I want to see what happens to see who's really who.

Spheroid
February 20th, 2005, 01:02 AM
In case I get instalynched, I want to drop my final advice:

I left the conversations for a reason. Please humans, use them to your advantage.

slackygorgeking
February 20th, 2005, 07:50 AM
guys

understand this FREAK DID NOT TELL ME HE WAS GUARDIAN
he did not say this to our alliance
I WAS NOT IN UR ALLIANCE
give me a conv with u
saying anything about being in ur alliance or going along with ur plan. u tricked me into thinking blade was guardian.,
freak had another plan. i dont think he is guardian. buti dont know for sure
but he lied to u guys and made u come out tobe a wolf. this i tihnk was his plan all along though he didnt say anything to us just that he had a plan no details nothing.
so he caught u guys as wolves. ur plan worked perfectly u have been lying from the beggining.... i have never lied yet
u lied to freak saying ur seer while i think u might of made us lynch the seer rye. (u started the bandwagon on him) though i have no proof of him being anything this is just a theory
u then got me into this and i wanst even into this... freak set u guys up the wolves for a fall. it works out perfectly because

WHO ARE THE PEOPLE THAT KNEW HE WAS GUARDIAN
dancer and spheroid. i did know
u worked it perfectly so u could find all the roles then kill them all off and blame it all on me...
i have to say it was an amazing plan

dAnceguy117
February 20th, 2005, 08:34 AM
Hold the phone, guys. Before an instalynch happens, we really need to sort all of this crap out.

This is why I've been suspecting Slacky since night 2. Unless Freak had suspicions of Shperoid, and was holding out on everything, which it REALLY doesn't look like, and didn't tell Slacky, then Slacky should have known.

Real Freak83: i am the guardian, don't tell anyone
P337 teh 1337: Okay.
P337 teh 1337: Whoa o_O
polyspheroid: I seered him on the first night, and then we came up with a plan
Real Freak83: when morning comes, he'll be alive and protected
P337 teh 1337: Ah.
Real Freak83: everyone will know for a fact he is in fact a human
P337 teh 1337: I knew Blade wasn't the guardian, I just knew it!
Real Freak83: there is no further reason they should doubt he'd not the seer
P337 teh 1337: Yes.
P337 teh 1337: :D
Real Freak83: he can reveal each wolf every new day once we find them
Real Freak83: the only other person in on this whole plan is slacky
P337 teh 1337: Whoa.
Real Freak83: we don't know if he's a human 100% but i'm very certain myself that he is
P337 teh 1337: Last I heard, he really believed Blade was the guardian o_O
P337 teh 1337: ok.
Real Freak83: anyway, this is the real human alliance
P337 teh 1337: Yey ^_^'
polyspheroid: If freak dies tonight, we know slacky's a wolf
Real Freak83: yes
P337 teh 1337: Ah.
P337 teh 1337: :D
Real Freak83: if he's human as i believe he is, then most likly the wolves will try to kill spheroid and fail
P337 teh 1337: Yeah.
polyspheroid: So freak, did you tell slacky everything?
Real Freak83: he knows everything, except that danceguy has been seered
P337 teh 1337: Ah.
polyspheroid: k
Real Freak83: cause i haven't spoken to him yet

Slacky keeps telling me Freak never told him. I don't understand why Freak would lie to us, being proved human.

For my case, because Slacky wanted it and I'm busy for a while today. I obviously couldn't be working alone, because Spheroid seered me. I couldn't be working with him because I didn't know about any of this until night 2. In one of Spheroid's earlier convos, you can see that Freak is the one who suggested seering me.

For Spheroid's case, if he had the guardian protecting him, why would he go and kill him? Think about it, I don't think that's what I wolf would do.

I'm gonna stick around and make my vote later, and see if anything could change my mind about all of this.

slackygorgeking
February 20th, 2005, 08:45 AM
dancer how do u know spheroid is seer,,,,, u two played freak...

someone give me a conv where i talked with either one
freak had another plan i believe. this is a theory. he told he was guardian to catch u guys. y would he go behind the alliances back tell us nothing then all of a sudden magically hes dead... somehow blade isnt guardian like we all believed and somehow out of the blue i knew freak was guardian.
i did not know i cant understand y he would do this bit i did not know.
there is something fishy going on.

Tsuteto
February 20th, 2005, 08:51 AM
If it wasn't for the fact that Freak was killed, I would say something as to why he wouldn't lie to you to trick you. But seriously guys, even now, you put too much trust into one person. All I know is, any of the three people Freak contacted can be the wolf, but any others could be too. A n00bish wolf would just go for Freak like any other, right? A smart wolf would most likely go for someone else, knowing that Spheroid would be guarded. The chances of blade having been the guardian were too slim IMO. I also don't think Spheroid is smart enough to elaborate the whole thing.

As of now, my vote stays. I probably won't be back by the time Day 2 ends, but my vote will stay for no phantom vote, seeing as I have not enough info upon others as to who's most likely wolf or human.

patron_viridantis
February 20th, 2005, 09:29 AM
Well I'm so glad to know what my friend played me for the fool that I am. But also I am glad to know that he knew better than to fill me in on his "master plan." Though the evidence Spheroid has collected is numerous - it is also confusing as hell. This is one hell of a conspiracy theory we have going on here revolving around 5 suspected facts: 1) Freak was the true guardian 2) Blademonkey was in fact NOT the true guardian 3) Spheroid, Danceguy, Freak and Slacky held an alliance in close confidence with each other while Freak led Dan and myself on false leads 4) Through evidence provided by Spheroid and Mr. L33T - Slacky has been accused of being yet another conspirator and in large the primary suspect held in esteem by Spheroid et company - with the quote by Freak "if i die tonight, then we know - SLACKY IS A WOLF" and 5) That Spheroid is in fact the seer and deliberately made it widely known or believed to be so.

Demon_Of_The_Comet
February 20th, 2005, 09:37 AM
Wow, lots of thinking, and lots of convos to read through.


But for now, i vote Slacky

patron_viridantis
February 20th, 2005, 09:45 AM
The conspiracy theory's killing me... might as well go to the source. Spheroid

daniel_lewis20
February 20th, 2005, 10:16 AM
Ok, here's something to think about. Freak is probably one of the smartest people playing this game.

Freak mentions in one of the many posts the following:

"If I die tonight-then we know-Slacky is the wolf"

That's not something Freak would say unless he knew the person/persons he were talking to were in fact wolves. He knew that by telling them is he would either be wolfed or survive the encounter. With Freak getting wolfed, this gives the wolves the opportunity to blame it on Slacky and turn the humans on each other. Something that Freak told us the night before he died was to trust your alliance members to the end, which I believe must be done. So if you'd rather believe Freak complete strangers about his "guardianship" and blame his own wolfing on his friend since early childhood, by all means, vote Slacky. But if you listen to logic and really read carefully, you'll see patterns in these conversations. Freak's too smart to give out his role unless he had a plan to lure out the wolves to his alliances eyes. Therefore, if you look really hard enough and see that myself, Patron, and Slacky all knew Freak had a plan from the beginning, Freak making a completely condemning statement against one of his lifelong friends and having it used against Slacky in like almost every post Spheroid put out. Leaving me to believe that Freak's main plan was to lure the wolf out with the perfect bait of blaming someone he doesn't suspect by telling someone he originally suspected giving that person he suspected the opportunity to wolf Freak and blame it on someone else. Smart, but not smart enough. If you believe in the truth behind the lies, you'll vote Spheroid.

dAnceguy117
February 20th, 2005, 10:37 AM
How many votes for instalynch? I hope to God it's not 7...

I'm not sure how close Freak and Slacky were, but from everything I got from Freak, he really trusted Slacky. He didn't, however, put too much faith in this other alliance. Take a look at this.

Real Freak83: right now i'm sort of part of another human alliance
polyspheroid: true
P337 teh 1337: Who?
Real Freak83: though i have no proof any of them are humans
P337 teh 1337: Ah.
Real Freak83: danlewis and patron
P337 teh 1337: Mmhmm.
Real Freak83: and slacky is part of that oo
Real Freak83: too*
P337 teh 1337: I've been talking to Dan a lot.
polyspheroid: be careful, never trust your friends
P337 teh 1337: He said he was going to invite me but I had to leave.
Real Freak83: i'm mainly doing that to avoid lynch votes from them
P337 teh 1337: Ah.
polyspheroid: good idea
Real Freak83: but i'm not going to be too open with them in case they're wolves
P337 teh 1337: Mmhmm.

So I don't know if Freak was playing us or what, but all I know is that Freak told us he told Slacky and only Slacky. I don't know if he was just lying, I'm just saying what I got from Freak, because that's all I can go on.

Yesterday, I was talking to Slacky. He was making accusations, which is reasonable, but some of his accusations - like the ones like "Freak would never do that" - only lead to me faking convos, and that's obviously not true.

So, as of right now, the only reason I don't know if Slacky is a wolf is if Freak didn't trust us and was trying to trick us into coming out if we were wolves. But I trust Freak. I may not have been his lifelong companion or anything, but I remember him from the old old FFR forum days. I really and truly want to believe what he told me.

Slacky, I don't know for certain that Spheroid is / was the seer. I was saying that I couldn't do this by myself because I would've been seer'd and come up wolf if I was. I did not play Freak. Once again, I can't be certain about Spheroid, but as of now, it's either:

1 - Slacky is a wolf and wolfed Freak, and is now covering up.
2 - Spheroid is a wolf and is playing me and Slacky.
3 - Freak was playing us because of suspicions of us.

I don't see why Freak would try to play ME though, because he was the one who told Spheroid to seer me and he's the one that brought me into all of this. I've pretty much just summed up all I know on the topic. If you think I know anything more, you're wrong. Interrogate me all you want, but THIS is everything I know for certain.

And remember, there are still other wolves out there. Yes, there is (unless someone killed Freak by freak chance, as someone brought up before) a wolf behind this, but we still have to be on the lookout for other wolves.

I'm done. I can't be on AIM too much today because of homework. If anyone has questions, comments, etc., PM me.

ddrruler
February 20th, 2005, 11:19 AM
GRAH! So freaking confusing.... Sorry for not posting though. Anyways, I can't really quite decide who to vote for... but for now, I'm just going with ddrruler. Whenever he makes a post, it's due to bandwagoning. This goes for either a) he's still a big n00b at this or b) he's a wolf, and doing it n00bishly.

Bad accusations, I know, but for now, I can't decide between the three others I have.Actually i don't post much because 1 I don't have anything to contribute 2 Im on aim almost 24/7 and 3 I only need to post to vote

ddrruler
February 20th, 2005, 11:40 AM
Ok so to avoid lynching a human babybenji2004 and since you have no votes.My reasons for voting Spheroid..1I hadn't checked the forum in awhile only scanned it.2 Had no idea what was going on at the time 3 I thought he was the most suspicous at the time.[check number 1]

dAnceguy117
February 20th, 2005, 11:58 AM
Wow, everyone's changing their minds. I think we all need to discuss this.

Anyway, in case I can't get on later, and there's no insta, I'll place my vote on danceguy. Of course, this is subject to change ;D

Tsuteto
February 20th, 2005, 11:59 AM
GRAH! So freaking confusing.... Sorry for not posting though. Anyways, I can't really quite decide who to vote for... but for now, I'm just going with ddrruler. Whenever he makes a post, it's due to bandwagoning. This goes for either a) he's still a big n00b at this or b) he's a wolf, and doing it n00bishly.

Bad accusations, I know, but for now, I can't decide between the three others I have.Actually i don't post much because 1 I don't have anything to contribute 2 Im on aim almost 24/7 and 3 I only need to post to vote

So... basically you have no real accusations at people when you vote most of the time, so you just go with others to make yourself seem less wolfish. Great job. I also didn't say anything about to how often you posted.

Rebirth0
February 20th, 2005, 12:01 PM
babybenji2004 - 1 (ddrruler)
Spheroid - 4 (patron_virdantis, daniel_lewis20, slackygorgeking, BeefStu)
slackygorgeking - 4 (Demon_Of_The_Comet, qualy, Spheroid, deltro300111)
ddrruler - 1 (Tsuteto)
dAnceguy117 - 1 (dAnceguy117)

11 out of 13 people have voted so far.

qualy
February 20th, 2005, 02:26 PM
I'm changing back to Spheroid.

I've been looking through the conversations, and slacky is right. As far as I can tell he was never in the alliance, never knew anything about what was said or anything about freak being a guardian. I think Freak may have been trying to play Spheroid into giving out his being a wolf.

And to address one issue that really bugs the hell out of me...

why would so and so lie about something and something?

In order to find out who the wolves are if they're human, or to seduce the humans if they're wolves. Simple as that.

dAnceguy117
February 20th, 2005, 04:10 PM
qualy, if that was me, I meant Freak, who has been proven human. I realize now that Freak may have been trying to get something out of Spheroid, but why wouldn't he tell me, or anyone else?

Freak knew he had a chance of dying by either Slacky or Spheroid and possibly me, because he couldn't trust anyone 100%, could he? Well, I don't understand why he would let this happen. He would know that if he died, and didn't tell us or Slacky the truth, we couldn't know if he was lying.

Anyway, if Freak was trying to get something out of Spheroid, shouldn't he have told someone? As far as I knew, Slacky was in the alliance. It looks like as far as Slacky knew before this, he wasn't in the alliance. With Freak dead, it's going to be a LOT harder to figure this out.

Another thing. Why would Freak let the alliance thing get to night 2, or for that matter, give Spheroid his role if he had suspicions about him? It would have been much safer for him to stay out of it if this was the case.

Now, I've been told by Dan that yes, I was a pawn used by Freak to find out what Spheroid was. He says that this is just a ploy for the real humans to get Spheroid. I feel like I can't buy this. Why wouldn't he tell them if he trusted them?

These are just some of the questions I have. Now that I've posted them, it's time to get back to homework >_< Hopefully I'll be on AIM by 9:30 or so (that's about three hours over here).

qualy
February 20th, 2005, 04:57 PM
These are all just thoughts on your questions, possibly somethings to think about. I left out paragraphs that I didn't have a response to.

qualy, if that was me, I meant Freak, who has been proven human. I realize now that Freak may have been trying to get something out of Spheroid, but why wouldn't he tell me, or anyone else?

He might have suspected you or slacky of being wolves. Everyone has pretty much equal chance that they are wolves.

Anyway, if Freak was trying to get something out of Spheroid, shouldn't he have told someone? As far as I knew, Slacky was in the alliance. It looks like as far as Slacky knew before this, he wasn't in the alliance. With Freak dead, it's going to be a LOT harder to figure this out.

It still sounds to me like slacky was not in the alliance. Do you or slacky or spheroid have any chats where slacky is an active participant? And I don't see why Freak should have told anyone. He can't trust anyone, so he may have been trying to solo it out? I'm not sure on this one.

Another thing. Why would Freak let the alliance thing get to night 2, or for that matter, give Spheroid his role if he had suspicions about him? It would have been much safer for him to stay out of it if this was the case.

He could have possibly tried to trick his suspicions into going for him, and just went along with spheroid saying that he was the seer and freak was the guardian.


These are just some of the questions I have. Now that I've posted them, it's time to get back to homework >_< Hopefully I'll be on AIM by 9:30 or so (that's about three hours over here).

Heh, alright. I'll be on then (6:30 my time). Maybe we can discuss this more then. I'm probably wrong about most of this, but oh well. :P

babybenji2004
February 20th, 2005, 05:02 PM
QUALY
I'm not accusing qualy of anyting. I just needed to vote for someone and he didn't have any votes on him.

deltro300111
February 20th, 2005, 05:36 PM
You all might find this interesting...

I bleeped out his AIM name for safety... and changed one of the names,

(ThePsychic): hi deltro
ILike2SuckCheese: o.O Hey...?
ILike2SuckCheese: You there?!
(ThePsychic): yea (sorry my cat was clawing something up)
ILike2SuckCheese: What do you want?
(ThePsychic): im the psycic
(ThePsychic): psychic*
ILike2SuckCheese: Not the best of ideas to be telling me this, I could be a wolf.
(ThePsychic): (someone) told me they were pretty sure yuo were human.
(ThePsychic): Rye was human...
ILike2SuckCheese: Well crap, we should've killed slack.
(ThePsychic): yea
(ThePsychic): ill tell you whether or not we lynch the next person.
ILike2SuckCheese: o.o ... o..k?
(ThePsychic): i g2g eat diner
ILike2SuckCheese: Bi2u!
(ThePsychic): bye

Spheroid
February 20th, 2005, 06:03 PM
I'm going to make some suggestions to people. Those of you who are not sure about what to do, you should try to get as much out of the four main active participents in this. That is, Dan_Lewis, Slacky, Dancerguy, and myself. All of these people know pretty much the full truth. There are of course two more wolves involved, but they are not as active yet. They will come out later.

As I said earlier, there are two apparent teams: Dan_Lewis & Slacky, and Dancerguy & Spheroid.Have fun and please take my advice, especially after I die

slackygorgeking
February 20th, 2005, 06:06 PM
no u stupid stupid noob lol (im so cruel)
theres no team between me and dan
theres an alliance that freka was in between us i will not give away the others.
theres a bond between u and dancer that is very suspicous and one of u must be wolves

slackygorgeking
February 20th, 2005, 06:08 PM
theres an alliance that freka was in between us i will not give away the others.

made a mistake there
its there is an alliance between me freak and dan but i will not give away the other names

deltro300111
February 20th, 2005, 06:30 PM
I <3 it when wolves get mad when they are about to die, it'll be nice when your wolf friends try to defend you, then we will know everyone.

daniel_lewis20
February 20th, 2005, 06:39 PM
I <3 it when wolves get mad when they are about to die, it'll be nice when your wolf friends try to defend you, then we will know everyone.

Knock it off with your rotten disposition deltro. The only reason you're voting to have Slacky lynched is because he called you a n00b from last game. Unless you have Slacky confession of being a wolf, you have no proof behind any accusation you make.

VashtheGunman7
February 20th, 2005, 06:48 PM
I leaving for awhile but my vote is for Spheroid. Just because after all the conversations I have been reading it makes sense

Spheroid
February 20th, 2005, 06:58 PM
Funny thing slacky, there's a bond between Slacky and Dan that is very suspicious too. If you look at most of the arguments against me, it can be countered with the fact that it couldn't work in the opposite.

Also Slacky, first you deny the fact that you're in alliance with Dan and call me a stupid, stupid noob. Then you suddenly say 2 minutes later that you are infact in alliance with dan. I would believe you slipped up had you not made the point of insulting me for saying you and Dan were working together.

Slacky, it's quite simple as I've made it. If Spheroid is a wolf, dancerguy is too. If Slacky is a wolf, dan is too. Both alliances have almost complete trust and are both very suspicious.

Deltro, although I hate working against myself, keep in mind I'm closer to death than slacky is. Also, dan_lewis does have a point. You need to back up your answer.

Note: Sorry to those people who don't like how I abuse the third person

Dan_Lewis, I'm surprised at you. I would expect you to realize when critisizing deltro that I am closer to death than you are.

Vash: I get where you're coming from on your vote, just a more detailed explanation would be nice

I left one thing not fully covered. Please go ahead and capitalize.

Tsuteto
February 20th, 2005, 07:02 PM
Guess Vash's vote makes 7 on you Sphere....

And also, just because one of you is a wolf doesn't mean the other is too. In the first jTWG, I thought someone was a wolf with this other person, but was wrong. All we know is, if Spheroid is a human, slacky is a wolf. If slacky is a human, Spheroid is a wolf.. That is all.

Spheroid
February 20th, 2005, 07:10 PM
Freak:

Freak is the only one that everyone now knows was on the right side. He was involved in both conflicting alliances, one more than the other. I won't say which, out of the fact that it will just lead to more controversey. Basically, whichever alliance you think Freak took more part in are the humans. I think I've been clear on what those two alliance are.

I will of couse make the argument for my side. Everyone trusts their friends more than strangers. Freak happens to have four friends who participated in this game. These being: Patron, Slacky, Rye, and Dan. This predisposed him to get into the group of Slacky and Dan. He needed much more convincing to get into my group, which was provided. I will say from my groups perspective, freak was just spying on what he thought were humans so he had the oppertunity to get the public opinion. The other group can say the same, though.

Thank you, and happy lynching me! :D

Rebirth0
February 20th, 2005, 07:10 PM
No wait, I coun't 6 for Spheroid.

Spheroid - 6 (patron_virdantis, daniel_lewis20, slackygorgeking, BeefStu, qualy, VashtheGunman7)

Spheroid
February 20th, 2005, 07:14 PM
Gamepro hasn't reported, so I still have my last advice, since I haven't been lynched just yet.

Be prepared to have people fighting for the lynching of dancerguy by the two unknown to me wolves. I hope this statement stops it though. You'll see the truth in the post game. I'll be laughing. For now, I want to congradualate Slacky for living. I was almost certain he'd die.

dAnceguy117
February 20th, 2005, 07:15 PM
danceguy's-totally-not-ripped-off-GP's-nothing-to-do-with-Whorli-voting guide:

babybenji2004 - 1 (ddrruler)
dAnceguy117 - 1 (dAnceguy117)
Spheroid - 6 (patron_virdantis, daniel_lewis20, slackygorgeking, BeefStu, VashtheGunman7, qualy)
Slackygorgeking - 3 ((Demon_Of_The_Comet, Spheroid, deltro300111)
ddrruler - 1 (Tsuteto)
qualy - 1 (babybenji2004)

One more for instalynch.

One thing I wanted to post. Spheroid can't have been playing a fake seer gambit that Freak fell for because if Spheroid told Freak he came up human, Freak would know he's lying, because he would've come up special role. That is, of course, under the conditions that Freak was the guardian.

Here's the thing. If Spheroid said he came up human, he would have known. This would mean he was playing along to catch Spheroid in a corner. If Spheroid said he came up special role, then he must be the seer, because how else would he know?

So, Spheroid, I daresay you should post what exactly you said to Freak, it may just help everyone out (except for wolves, that is).

Oh, and one more thing. Spheroid, I really don't think you being a wolf makes me a wolf. I got dragged into this by being suggested to be seer'd, remember? >_>

And Spheroid, don't give up like this, if you're human you'd help us by not getting you lynched.

Spheroid
February 20th, 2005, 07:17 PM
Oh, lucky on my part, I accidently posted that after gamepro, yet there's only 6 on me.

Please remeber this: Instalynching the seer is about the worst thing you can do. Instalynching a Wolf is the greatest. I sure hope the risk was worth it. You, may regret it, you may not.

dAnceguy117
February 20th, 2005, 07:24 PM
Oh, one more thing. The only way what I said could be wrong is if he said Freak had a special role and Freak played along, not having a special role, but that doesn't make any sense at ALL to me. Why would a wolf do THAT? The way I figure it, a wolf's got about about a 25% chance of lucking out and being right.

So these are just my thoughts on the matter.

Spheroid
February 20th, 2005, 07:26 PM
Here the words from my first pm's with freak. Believe at your own risk:

S: Alright. I know your the gaurdian. I'm the seer. It may be beneficial to work together. If you want to, I can send you information later on about who's who.


F: I'm assuming you Seer'd me Night One?

S: Yes. The reason was that you're the only person on the list that I've actually talked to on the forums, so I wanted to know if you'd be trying to trick me.


F: Alright, I believe you and sort of figured that may be why. Since you're the only one I can now fully trust, all the information I have right now is that I believe slackygorgeking is a human. I'm not 100% sure but I do believe he is. Other than that I have no other ideas.

Also, don't lead any votes. Don't be inactive but don't start things, we don't want to stand out - just blend in.

As you can see from them, the way I gained freak trust was that by telling him he was the gaurdian, there was no way he could deny it. I only sent this to freak. There's no reason not to trust someone fully in a twg if this happens. And if this seems cheap, a seer has a 2/16 chance of doing this (if he seers psychic). I did this within a few hours of when I got my role.

Spheroid
February 20th, 2005, 07:29 PM
Sorry, didn't realize didn't realize danceguy just made the same point before me.

deltro300111
February 20th, 2005, 07:42 PM
I <3 it when wolves get mad when they are about to die, it'll be nice when your wolf friends try to defend you, then we will know everyone.

Knock it off with your rotten disposition deltro. The only reason you're voting to have Slacky lynched is because he called you a n00b from last game. Unless you have Slacky confession of being a wolf, you have no proof behind any accusation you make.it'll be nice when your wolf friends try to defend you, then we will know everyone.

Idiot.

I could care less about what slack says about me, his opinion lacks meaning as he is the noob, I don't hold grudges against stupid people, I resume to think they are stupid. And he lied about the guardian, with "no apparent reason" beyond the fact that he is a wolf, And I am in contact with whom I believe to be the psychic, I'm pretty sure about him/her, but I won't comment any further than that. And I will post what he says to me after this lynch, for you to use at your own discretion. dAnce will give you more info if I get wolfed tonight.

Spheroid
February 20th, 2005, 07:42 PM
I need to reinforce my advice incase I die soon. Please read through ALL of my posts. They have valuable for everyone, even those who expect me of being a wolf.

Tsuteto
February 20th, 2005, 07:55 PM
Tsuteto Dracman: Just out of curiosity... what makes your trust with slacky so strong?
DANLEWIS2005: because of freak
Tsuteto Dracman: So... basically freak is the main tie of things overall?
DANLEWIS2005: freak told us about a plan he had, nobody realized it until we noticed something extremely strange
Tsuteto Dracman: And the strange thing would be... Spheroid?
DANLEWIS2005: Freak's main suspicion was Spheroid, yet in the convos with Spheroid, he blames the only person he spent 45 minutes convincing me to trust
Tsuteto Dracman: Hm...
DANLEWIS2005: I'm not a very trusting person, believe me, I don't trust too many people unless I know for sure or am convinced
Tsuteto Dracman: Same with me
Tsuteto Dracman: If you are human, it is obvious that you can't trust that many. Even with a special role, that adds all the more reason to act suspiscious
DANLEWIS2005: exactly
Tsuteto Dracman: I mean, no offense or anything, but too many people have put too much trust into one person in this game, which is freak
DANLEWIS2005: it's not about trust
Tsuteto Dracman: Please, do tell
DANLEWIS2005: he was a human, I feel the same way if another human was killed and someone blames someone else without any logical proof
DANLEWIS2005: all Spheroid's accusations were just little pieces of info that Freak fed him to lure him out into the open, which he did and which Spheroid continues to do so
Tsuteto Dracman: Hm...
DANLEWIS2005: read his 1st claimed PM with Freak on pg. 8
Tsuteto Dracman: Read it
DANLEWIS2005: He claims that Freak WAS the guardian, not the other way around. The only thing Spheroid would know is that he was a special role, nothing else.


I think Danny here hit it well on the spot. How's life for ya Spheroid?

Rebirth0
February 20th, 2005, 07:59 PM
That is 7 votes. I'll write Night 3 now.

dAnceguy117
February 20th, 2005, 08:02 PM
Spheroid = backstab'd.

S: Alright. I know your the gaurdian.

How? You'd get back that he's a special role, not guardian.

P337 teh 1337: So you seer'd Freak, and he came up guardian?
spheroiddice: yup
P337 teh 1337: Hmmm...

WRONG, buddy.

spheroiddice: I just copied, pasted, and wrote some impartial commentary
P337 teh 1337: k
P337 teh 1337: Then you're a wolf.
spheroiddice: guess I used the wrong choice of words
P337 teh 1337: Yup.

Spheroid

Slacky, you can be at ease now. I wasn't lying to you ^_^

EDIT: Whoa, I was the 8th vote o_O

Rebirth0
February 20th, 2005, 08:26 PM
NIGHT 3


"So this is our vote? Spheroid?" deltro300111 asked everyone trying to make sure on who to kill.

"Alright, everyone gather around, we have made our vote." babybenji2004 announced.

"We know that we have at least one more killer on the loose and we have to kill him. And a great deal of us chose to kill Spheroid." slackygorgeking said to everyone.

All eyes turned on Spheroid as he started to run back down the hole that everyone had dug to get in the nicely lighted room that they were in.

dAnceguy117 jumped infront of the group and said "I'm not going to have to run up all those stairs having to chase you down to kill you." He quickly picked up a stone and threw it right at Spheroid's head. Spheroid stopped to hold his wounded head but in less than a second everyone crowded around him and started pulling, fighting at him. After a while he got worn out and fell to the ground trying to catch his breath. There was a table with chairs nearby so ddrruler grabbed a chair and hit Spheroid in the back of the head with one heavy swing. He fell to the ground dead instantly.

"Well he certainly knows how to fight." Demon_Of_The_Comet said taking a breath, Maybe we got a killer this time."

"Let's hope so." VashtheGunman7 replied.

"Well, this is a dining room. There must be a kitchen nearby." qualy said. "I'm starving, I haven't had any food for over two days.

"Yea, me too." ddrruler said.

Everyone started thinking about food and started looking around for any food.

"Well, there are two doors." Tsuteto said while he walked towards the door on the left of the room. "And this one is the kitchen!" he said in delight.

Everyone scattered and ran into the kitchen.

"Whoa, this place has everything! I couldn't name one food that isn't in here."BeefStu said as he looked in the refrigerator.

"Ahh, five ovens, we won't have to wait to cook food!" daniel_lewis20 said with his eyes wide open.

"Hey guys, where are we? Really...a little wooden house wouldn't have such nice stuff in it. I know we went deep underground, we're probably a mile away from the house but...where are we now?" patron_viridantis asked while he was looking around for pizza.

After a while everyone fell asleep in the kitchen, they were very tired and didn't care if they slept on the cold tile floor.

I need PM's from the Seer, Guardian, and the wolves.

Spheroid
February 20th, 2005, 09:09 PM
I am not allowed to post during the night.

Additionally, I am not allowed to post while dead.

No wonder I'm in jTWG - I'm incapable of reading the rules.

I understand that any further posts in this topic will be deleted when the superior-to-myself moderators see them. In fact, I welcome warnings being issued to my person if I am caught doing it.

Rebirth0
February 21st, 2005, 01:25 PM
DAY 3


Morning came and several people awoke. Everybody was on the floor and food was everywhere.

"Do you guys want to clean this stuff up or just leave it here? We'll most likely come back later to eat again if we don't get out today." daniel_lewis20 asked those who were awake.

"...I guess we can clean this stuff up. We'll be using it again so we don't want mice around in the food." BeefStu replied while rubbing his eyes.

"Alright, everyone get up. We have to clean this room before we do anything else." dAnceguy117 announced to those who were still asleep.

Everyone started to wake up and started cleaning.

"Hey, do you think this kitchen has any coffee? I need my damn coffee." deltro300111 said.

"Uh, let me check." Tsuteto said while opening some cabinets, "Yes, we have coffee. Here catch." Tsuteto tossed the can of coffee to deltro300111

deltro300111 turned around to see that an oven light was on. Something was cooking too. "Guys who was the last person to use this oven?" he asked.

"I don't think anybody used that oven deltro. We used the first three on the left." slackygorgeking replied.

"Oh god! I think I know what happened....the killer! Quickly, tell me if anyone is missing." patron_virdantis yelled out quickly.

"Oh ****! ddrruler is missing!" VashtheGunman7 called out.

"That must mean, we know who is in the oven..." babybenji2004 said quietly, shaking in fear of what they would see.

deltro300111 walked towards the oven then tried to open it. The door opened and sent out a blast of heat at 550 degrees. They looked inside the large oven, it was dark, and smoke was everywhere. After the smoke cleared they saw a body...ddrruler's body.

"His eyes have been melted off, and he's been burnt to a crisp..." Demon_Of_The_Comet said, stepping away from the oven about to throw up.

"Everyone stop! We're voting again right now to end this once and for all." qualy said.

dAnceguy117
slackygorgeking
deltro300111
Demon_Of_The_Comet
qualy
patron_viridantis
babybenji2004
daniel_lewis20
VashtheGunman7
Tsuteto
BeefStu

6 votes to instalynch. 11 people remain. Day 3 will end in 48 hours. (Wednesday at 3:00 PM Central)

babybenji2004
February 21st, 2005, 06:03 PM
DDR_Ruler, thats whats for dinner.
damn wolves. Does anyone remember who started DDRRULER sucks as the reply message before the game restarted?

deltro300111
February 21st, 2005, 06:41 PM
That was me I think, but I just plain don't like DDRRuler... I haven't since jTWG 1.

Tsuteto
February 22nd, 2005, 02:37 PM
Hm... obviously the wolves didn't have anybody better to kill, thus killed who they thought would give least bit of suspicion.

dAnceguy117
February 22nd, 2005, 03:41 PM
Alright, we need to get some conversation going, guys. It's been 24 hours and only three posts.. That's inexcusable.

As of right now, I can only go with suspicions, as there's no hardcore evidence for anyone right now. Tsuteto's posts have been suspicious. Most have been about ddrruler, and as you guys know, he just got wolfed today. Also, it seems odd that he's been relatively inactive on the boards, and right after the night 3 wolfing, he posts right off the bat just to state that ddrruler wasn't a good kill.

As I said, this is just a vote I'm tossing up, as we need to get some voting going. And don't bandwagon until we get an insta, like on day 1... LET THE GUY RESPOND TO MY CLAIMS.

Tsuteto
February 22nd, 2005, 03:45 PM
Really? Knowing me, if I was a wolf, I wouldn't waste time killing ruler. If anything, I'd waste time against you or possibly even Danny. Get rid of the high thinkers, and let the noobs do the meaningless tasks for me.

qualy
February 22nd, 2005, 05:05 PM
Sorry about not posting yet. Like I've said before, I won't be able to post very often at all during the week. (before school, 1 hour after school)

There are sooooo many possibilities this time around, it's crazy. I'm gonna have to go with deltro this time around though (although it's subject to change).

First of all, keep an eye out on who votes for who. I think it's pretty safe to assume that those who did not vote for spheroid are human (if it turns out that he was, in fact, a wolf). Fortunately, since he made it pretty obvious toward the end, this only leaves a few people. The people who voted for Spheroid are patron_virdantis, daniel_lewis20, slackygorgeking, BeefStu, VashtheGunman7, qualy, Tsuteto, dAnceguy117.

That leaves us here: Demon_Of_The_Comet, deltro300111, and babybenji2004.

I could care less about what slack says about me, his
opinion lacks meaning as he is the noob, I don't hold
grudges against stupid people, I resume to think they
are stupid. And he lied about the guardian, with "no
apparent reason" beyond the fact that he is a wolf,
And I am in contact with whom I believe to be the
psychic, I'm pretty sure about him/her, but I won't
comment any further than that. And I will post what he
says to me after this lynch, for you to use at your
own discretion. dAnce will give you more info if I get
wolfed tonight

He claimed to be in contact with the psychic, and yet
he did not get wolfed. DDRRuler did get killed while
not voting for spheroid. If deltro, as a wolf, were in
contact with the psychic, he would have known who to
kill.
Later, deltro mentions that he doesn't like ddrruler.

That's all my suspicions. Like I said, this is subject to change. It could really be anyone at this point, so really we're back where we started.

qualy
February 22nd, 2005, 05:07 PM
Damn the not being able to use the edit button. :(

One last thing: just like danceguy said about Tsuteto, give the guy a chance to respond. We don't want an instalynch and have it be a human.

qualy
February 22nd, 2005, 05:09 PM
Ok, one more thing. I won't be able to be on any messenger programs until the weekend. If you want to talk, PM me.

slackygorgeking
February 22nd, 2005, 05:48 PM
alright i have waited long enough.
tsuteto is a wolf
i have come to the conclusion because he is the only one that wanted ddruler to go and he got into a fightwith him. maybe ddruler found something out about him i dont know but it must be something like that.

daniel_lewis20
February 22nd, 2005, 06:58 PM
sorry tsuteto, but Slacky and danceguy do have a point. After reading up on your last posts, it comes to my conclusion that your actions are pretty suspicious. So unless you can somehow prove you're human or prove you know who one of the wolves are, my vote's for you tsuteto

Rebirth0
February 22nd, 2005, 11:49 PM
3 votes on Tsuteto. We need 6 for instalynch and Day 3 ends in less than 18 hours. (I'm extending it to 6:00 PM instead of 3)

VashtheGunman7
February 23rd, 2005, 02:08 PM
Really? Knowing me, if I was a wolf, I wouldn't waste time killing ruler. If anything, I'd waste time against you or possibly even Danny. Get rid of the high thinkers, and let the noobs do the meaningless tasks for me.

I was thinking about this post all night last night and I came to the conclusion that Tsuteto could be a wolf. This post just seemed like you are just screaming I AM A WOLF

VashtheGunman7
February 23rd, 2005, 02:08 PM
Tsuteto sorry man

babybenji2004
February 23rd, 2005, 02:20 PM
i'm going to have to go with deltro.

VashtheGunman7
February 23rd, 2005, 02:50 PM
i'm going to have to go with deltro. Give some resoning to your vote people. Just don't say I am voting for this person you need to explain why because your just random voting.

patron_viridantis
February 23rd, 2005, 03:19 PM
You made little effort in trying to conceal your dislike for DDRruler, inactive except for at opportune times to nail DDRruler. Stay in the shadows too long and your night vision will overtake you. My vote is for Tsuteto.

babybenji2004
February 23rd, 2005, 03:53 PM
i've thought it over and i change my vote. Tsuteto
edit-I have my reasons

Rebirth0
February 23rd, 2005, 04:05 PM
Voting on the last two hours guys? Whatever, I'm not going to be here for a while so the story can be up at around 10 PM Central.

BeefStu
February 23rd, 2005, 04:17 PM
Tsuteto's seems like the most likely wolf at this point. It's more of a gut feeling than anything concrete.

VashtheGunman7
February 23rd, 2005, 05:43 PM
INSTALYNCH

dAnceguy117
February 24th, 2005, 07:06 AM
Insta was at 6, not 7, buddy.

Now where do we go from here... I don't feel like there's really any "gut feelings" for me from here.. We're gonna need to get something more solid.

And don't bandwagon. I can't say this enough. The evidence I stated was decent, but you guys gotta stop just going "ooh I agree lolo". I'm gonna say this every time it looks like there is one, so be prepared ;D

qualy
February 24th, 2005, 08:36 AM
danceguy is right. You guys need to put some reasoning into your posts if you're gonna bandwagon. This behavior just helps out the wolves and doesn't do anything for the humans, except hurt them. Even if it turns out to be a wolf, the bandwagoning just shows that we can't be trusted if we wanted to join a real big boy TWG.

VashtheGunman7
February 24th, 2005, 02:06 PM
i'm going to have to go with deltro. Give some resoning to your vote people. Just don't say I am voting for this person you need to explain why because your just random voting.

Its been said and everyone should know this by now.

Rebirth0
February 24th, 2005, 06:04 PM
NIGHT 4


"Ok so we got our vote people?" qualy yelled out.

"Tsuteto!" Everyone roared.

"I'll do the honors in killing him." slackygorgeking said, looking back at qualy then at Tsuteto. He grabbed a hard watermelon and ran up to Tsuteto. Tsuteto looked at the watermelon wondering what slacky would do with it, just then slacky busted the watermelon on Tsuteto's head. Tsuteto fell to the ground dizzy and unable to move with his headache. slacky grabbed another watermelon and threw it at Tsuteto's head again, then several more times. After a while Tsuteto lay motionless on the ground holding his head. "The pain!! MY GOD IT HURTS" he screamed, but then Demon_Of_The_Comet walked up and stomped hard on Tsuteto's head, putting him to death.

"And that is how you kill a human." Demon_Of_The_Comet said, "You don't stone him to death, that takes too long."

"What a way to kill someone." dAnceguy117 said with disgust.

"Alright, NOW can we leave?" babybenji2004 asked, "I don't wanna see anymore of the dead bodies."

"Yes, we can leave now. That is, if we can find our way out." BeefStu replied.

Everyone walked out of the kitchen and into the other door. It was a long hallway with 1 door at the end, that was the door that they had to take. Everyone started walking slowly down the hallway, it seemed scary now after they had seen all these deaths. Soon they reached the end of the hallway, and stood infront of the next door.

"Alright. This could actually be it, you never do know..." VashtheGunman7 said in slight relief. But it didn't lead outside, it led into another large room, similar in size with the basement.

"At least there's another door in this room." patron_virdantis said. There were two doors in every room, one that they came from, and one leading into another room. After opening the door at the end of the long library room they all a hologram projector, it was even plugged in and turned on, it was playing a slideshow. "Wait a minute! That's blademonkey626. But he's dead, why is he in this slideshow?" deltro300111 said very confused. "Holy hell, that's Rye_Bread...and Freak83 and Spheroid. These are all the people that have been killed in this house guys." daniel_lewis20 said very shocked.

"What kind of slideshow is this?" qualy yelled out. They watched for a while longer, then they heard a voice. "Body harvest!! BODY HARVEST!!! Now watch them burn!!! HAHAHAHA" it said. Then it showed Tsuteto's body burning in the top of the pile of bodies. "That's Tsuteto!" BeefStu said. "We killed him just twenty minutes ago." he said.

"I've got a bad feeling about this. Let's hurry back to the kitchen, I have to know if Tsuteto's body is still in there." VashtheGunman7 screamed trying to get everyone to go back into the kitchen.

Everyone ran into the kitchen only to find no bodies. No ddrruler, no Tsuteto, and the floor was clean of blood. Everyone stood motionless...speechless.



I need PMs from the wolves, Guardian and Seer.

Tsuteto
February 24th, 2005, 08:33 PM
*smacks head*

Meh, oh well. Guess it's just my luck. See you post-game!

Rebirth0
February 25th, 2005, 09:45 PM
DAY 4


A few seconds had passed where nothing had happened, everyone was thinking about the movie. Just then, dAnceguy117 fell to the ground, dead.

"Not again!" deltro300111 screamed, "How did he die this time?"

"I don't see any blood on him, nobody stabbed him, shot him or did anything. I think he just died from grief." Demon_Of_The_Comet said after checking the body

"Alright, I wanna leave this place. I'm scared enough as it is." VashtheGunman7 cried out.

"We are going to leave now. It's daytime, we have the whole day to find a way out. Let's go." slackygorgeking said, trying to lead everyone back to where they had just came from.

Everybody walked back to the room where they had saw the little movie. It was still turned on, and this time dAnceguy117 was on the screen. He was still laying on the floor dead, in the exact spot where he had died just minutes before.

"Ok so this guy knows where we are, and can probably see us at all times." BeefStu said.

"You guys do know, someone in our group has to be doing this stuff. How else would he know where we all are?" qualy said.

"And we'll vote on it yet again. But while we walk into the different rooms, we won't stop to vote." babybenji2004 replied quickly.

There were two doors in the projector room. One led upstairs, and one led into a bathroom. Everyone quickly decided to use the door that led upstairs. Walking up these stairs took another 20 minutes.

Once everyone was upstairs they seemed to be in the same little mansion that they were in downstairs.

"Heh, I kinda thought we would end up in a barnlike house again." patron_virdantis said, sighing in relief.

"I'm tired from running up stairs. We'll stop and vote right here, right now." daniel_lewis20 announced.



slackygorgeking
deltro300111
Demon_Of_The_Comet
qualy
patron_viridantis
babybenji2004
daniel_lewis20
VashtheGunman7
BeefStu

5 votes to instalynch, Day 4 ends in 48 hours. (Sunday at Midnight Central. So it's actually Monday...at 00:00)

qualy
February 25th, 2005, 09:55 PM
God dammit. :/

Oh well... this time around, I'm going to vote babybenji because he bandwagons toward the majority vote. On the last vote, he tried to bandwagon toward deltro, and then he bandwagoned on Tsuteto, after seeing the deltro thing wasn't gonna work out. If you want to back up your claims, then go right ahead, but for now, "I have my reasons" just isn't good enough.

dAnceguy117
February 25th, 2005, 10:20 PM
Well, unfortunately, I kinda saw this coming. I just got home from my cousin's varsity basketball game, went to my other cousin's house, and came back and played basketball for a good hour and worked on my pull-up jumper. Finally came inside at 12:15-ish to find myself dead. gg wolves :p

Goodbye all, and good luck everyone. I look forward to jTWG IV. I'll see you guys then.

daniel_lewis20
February 26th, 2005, 09:20 AM
Ok, here's a conversation I had with BeefStu the night before dAnceguy got wolfed:

Beef Stu 980: Hi.
DANLEWIS2005: hey
Beef Stu 980: How's jTWG going for you?
DANLEWIS2005: it's going alright, it's kinda been inactive this week
Beef Stu 980: Indeed it has.
Beef Stu 980: Any plans for the next Day?
DANLEWIS2005: nope, I don't even know if I'm going to survive for the next day
Beef Stu 980: Assuming we do survive, I think we should vote for dAnceguy
Beef Stu 980: If we voted for Spheroid, it would seem to make sense to finish off that alliance.
DANLEWIS2005: why? do you have any evidence?
DANLEWIS2005: just because he sided with Spheroid doesn't mean we have the evidence to prove he's a wolf
Beef Stu 980: You're right. Just a thought, anyways
DANLEWIS2005: it's weird how you would come right out and accuse someone and try to start a bandwagon
Beef Stu 980: I haven't tried to start up a bandwagon
Beef Stu 980: I was just wondering about a loose end
DANLEWIS2005: Beef Stu 980: Assuming we do survive, I think we should vote for dAnceguy
DANLEWIS2005: that'
Beef Stu 980: Just a thought
DANLEWIS2005: s bandwagoning
DANLEWIS2005: well, at least attempted
Beef Stu 980: How is talking to one person about voting bandwagoning?
DANLEWIS2005: suppose it worked, you'd have two votes for danceguy, then you'd IM others to try to get more support
Beef Stu 980: Probably. If I thought that was the right vote, I should try to get support for it. If other people don't think so, they'll tell me and then I might see why they're voting the way they're voting. If I think their reasoning is more solid, I change my vote.
DANLEWIS2005: still, you had no evidence behind your claims, leaving me to suspect that you want dAnceguy gone
DANLEWIS2005: even when he's one of the best strategists left in the game
Beef Stu 980: I thought dAnceguy and Spheroid were in a wolf-alliance. If Spheroid is probably a wolf, then dAnceguy is probably a wolf. That's what I thought.
Beef Stu 980: I didn't know he was once of the best strategists left
DANLEWIS2005: just because they sided in together doesn't mean they're both wolves
Beef Stu 980: You're completely right. I just saw that as a possibility, but now I think that it's too remote. I'll just wait, see, collect more information, and make a more educated guess
DANLEWIS2005: yes, I suggest you do that

After having this conversation, I realized that telling BeefStu was acting a bit weird and waited to see what happened next. Sure enough to my suspicions, dAnceguy was next on the wolves list. Now if I hadn't told BeefStu that dAnceguy was one of the top strategists left in the game, he would still be here and someone else would have been wolfed. But unfortunately, I thought BeefStu could be trusted, I was wrong. Therefore, on my own suspicions and evidence, my vote's for you BeefStu

VashtheGunman7
February 26th, 2005, 12:30 PM
Beefstu is my vote for now seeing that the conversation you two had was alot of bandwaggoning from Beef. If any thing changes from now I will change my vote.

deltro300111
February 26th, 2005, 09:57 PM
Nope, no wolf is stupid enough to tell someone who they want dead if they intend to wolf them anyway, and vash- he has somewhat sufficient proof to bandwagon Beefstu, just enough so that wolves can be justified to do so... my vote goes to VashtheGunman7

slackygorgeking
February 27th, 2005, 07:37 PM
alright this day has been a big shame. not very active. i have had nothing to post but have been trying to talk with people and trying to figure out what is going on. i have been able to come up with nothing.

i beg u if u have any new info please im me or post it..
i will make my vote at 10:30 tonight if nothing comes up

slackygorgeking
February 27th, 2005, 08:01 PM
alright there is not much evidence to go upon.
its not 10:30 but i will make my vote with what little i can come of this..
i do not wish to bandwagon.. so with little evidence i wont.

my vote goes to Demon_Of_The_Comet
because the only time he posts is to bandwagon. this is very suspicous...
and his inactivity is annoying and is hurting the game bad

BeefStu
February 27th, 2005, 09:28 PM
Demon_of_the_Comet. I agree with slacky about the inactivity and bandwagoning, and I need to counteract the votes against me.

Rebirth0
February 27th, 2005, 10:30 PM
I'm extending the deadline because we have two people with 2 votes on them. We need one person with 5.

One more day.

VashtheGunman7
February 27th, 2005, 10:37 PM
Demon_of_the_Comet. I agree with slacky about the inactivity and bandwagoning, and I need to counteract the votes against me.

Ok look I can see you voting the people for bandwagoning but for inactivity is not that smart to do. Also why do you need to counteract the votes against you, so you can have another day to wolf someone. Sorry my vote still stands.

patron_viridantis
February 28th, 2005, 02:27 PM
I find the evidence presented against BeefStu acceptable. This whole bandwagoning thing agains bandwagoners who bandwagon is beginning to make the term seem like its been rolled over by a bandwagon. yeah.

Demon_Of_The_Comet
February 28th, 2005, 06:26 PM
Sorry people for inactivity but the bandwagoning in the first night kinda killed everything for me.
So i really dont care of uf you vote me off.

I can see how i seem suspicious.

Ill look at the last few pages and see what happened

Demon_Of_The_Comet
February 28th, 2005, 06:40 PM
Daniel your evidence against beef isnt really proof.
You were just asking him incriminating questions based on your accusations, even if he answered the way you wanted, you already have your mindset and it doesnt look like you would change for anything.

Beef just had an idea, in the last JTWG i thought Danceguy was a wolf, and i almost started a band wagon and looked what you found out, i was human.

So i suggest you get better proof before starting a bandwagon

;)

daniel_lewis20
February 28th, 2005, 06:58 PM
Ok demon, let me explain to you a little thing called "strategy". I've been talking to Danceguy since the game began and I knew he wasn't a wolf. When BeefStu tried to get me to side with him, I wouldn't do it, so I saved the convo just in case something happened to Danceguy. Unfortunately, Danceguy got wolfed before I could talk to him about the conversation, leaving ME (not anyone else) to suspect BeefStu of being a wolf. Now before you start accusing me of bandwagoning, just remember one important thing, I'm more active then you are and I know what's going on. So don't push it.

slackygorgeking
February 28th, 2005, 07:00 PM
cough here here cough

patron_viridantis
February 28th, 2005, 08:05 PM
can't we act the least bit civilized here? no. wait. that simply won't do. we must act like barbaric spies. I'm not in any way trying to suggest that expressing ideas freeformly on AIM is a bad thing, but anything and everything one says can be used as a weapon against someone else's weapon against you. so until this day is over (which I hope will be soon to any end) maybe we could sort of make an attempt at civilization. ooga ooga *grunts*

Demon_Of_The_Comet
February 28th, 2005, 08:23 PM
Well daniel you may be more active than me, but that doesnt mean i dont understand whats going on.

You may have your own ideas but for you to post that chat and assume hes a wolf is pretty stupid.

Like i said before, you already seemed like you had your mindset when you talked to him so it didnt make any sense for you to IM him then to try to get proof to incriminate him.

I can analyze things too, so dont think your so much better than me ;)

daniel_lewis20
March 1st, 2005, 09:49 AM
Ok Demon, apparently you haven't analyzed things properly. Everyone else who's voted (excluding Deltro) think this evidence that I've provided is enough to vote against them. And just to add a little piece of evidence that you overlooked, he IM'd me. Now I'm getting sick and tired of having to read you're posts because they're just a waste of space. Even BeefStu hasn't even defended himself and you have no proof that he's in fact human. Therefore, if you decide to post again, have something a little more intelligent to say instead of trying to make up insults of how I play the game beacuse at least I'm playing.

Rebirth0
March 1st, 2005, 02:13 PM
I'm not going to end Day 4 until I get 5 votes here. Normally I would end it, but this is pathetic. If you guys want to have other jTWG's in the future I'd be a lot more active here and now. And I can tell you, it's very hard getting into TWG without jTWG now.

slackygorgeking
March 1st, 2005, 02:17 PM
gamepro for the love of god PLEASE END THE DAY u cant force us to bandwagon..]
U NEEd TO HOLD UR DEADLINES

sunday thats it
END IT
AT 5:00 est i want a new story up

babybenji2004
March 1st, 2005, 02:33 PM
i think dans on to something. beefstu

VashtheGunman7
March 1st, 2005, 02:43 PM
Look 2 haven't voted we need Qualy, and Demon to vote. So spam them to death until they vote seeing we need to huury and move to the next day

slackygorgeking
March 1st, 2005, 02:47 PM
Look 2 haven't voted we need Qualy, and Demon to vote. So spam them to death until they vote seeing we need to huury and move to the next day

arg whatis wrong here just give them phatoms the guy dies day over

deltro300111
March 1st, 2005, 06:27 PM
wow, this is sad,... I'm going to be proactive.

Demon_Of_The_Comet
March 1st, 2005, 07:46 PM
This is why i was inactive for so long, no one really seems to be thinking here.
And all this bandwagoning

UGH!

slackygorgeking
March 1st, 2005, 08:20 PM
im crying in side it should be

NIGHT SIX

Tsuteto
March 1st, 2005, 10:17 PM
Alright, I know I shouldn't be posting, but I need to say something to gamepro.

If you're going to run an effective game, you must end it on the day that you state. No 'extended periods'. If people have voted, then they get phantoms, simple as that.

I'm done now. Once again, sorry for posting!

Rebirth0
March 2nd, 2005, 02:50 PM
Day 4 ends, I'm dissapointed. I'll write the story, BeefStu dies.

Rebirth0
March 2nd, 2005, 03:15 PM
NIGHT 5


"Alright BeefStu, you die this time." Demon_Of_The_Comet said in a deep voice. "I want to get this over with. I want to leave this place, and never come to this part of the country again. he said with a big sigh.

"Why me though? Please, I don't know why you guys are wanting to kill me!" BeefStu yelled outloud.

Everybody stood looking at the ground for a minute. Then deltro300111 started to pull a knife out of his pocket. deltro300111 looked at BeefStu and then charged at him with the knife. BeefStu tried to get out of the way and he got lucky, but he was still stabbed in the right arm badly. BeefStu fell to the ground crying out in pain. "Ahhh damnit....ahhh" Giving him a while to suffer from the pain, deltro300111 stabbed BeefStu once in the back of the head. He then fell to his death on the floor.

"Please tell me it's over guys." slackygorgeking pleaded.

"I don't know if it is, or if it will be." VashtheGunman7 replied with his head tilted.

"We've lost half of our entire group. 8 people, have died in a little over 4 days. qualy said quietly. "It just won't end. I'm getting really tired...of being locked in this damn house! We can't leave! We can't do ANYTHING! All we can do is watch our friends die, one by one. he screamed as he punched the wall as hard as he could. Although is made a rather large hole in the wall, the impact also broke qualys wrist.

"Are you retarded? Why the hell would you want to go and break your wrist on purpose?" daniel_lewis20 asked.

"Because we're sick of this place. It's getting to our heads." patron_virdantis added.

"We had better find somewhere to sleep for the night." babybenji2004 said, It's gotten really late."


I need PMs from the Wolves, Guardian and Seer.

Rebirth0
March 2nd, 2005, 03:28 PM
DAY 5


Morning came and everybody started to wake up.

"Well, we always find someone dead after waking up. Did anyone die while we were all sleeping?" babybenji2004 asked, knowing what he would find.

"Eww gross, yea. Qualy died, and it really wasn't from his broken wrist. Somebody chopped his whole arm off!" slackygorgeking said loudly. "That's new."

"Somebody chopped his arm off, and deltro300111 was the only person that had a knife! At least, from what I've seen." VashtheGunman7 said, pointing at deltro300111. "Did you do it deltro? DID YOU!?"

"You guys might not believe it, but my knife is missing from my pants. Guys trust me, I didn't do it!" deltro300111 said quickly.

"We stay in this room. We will not leave this room until the killer is dead. No more searching for a way out, if we have to eat, we all go together. If we have to go to the bathroom, we all go together. I don't care if you guys think that's gross." Demon_Of_The_Comet commanded.

"He's got a point. Why search for a way out if someone might die the next day? It's sort of pointless." daniel_lewis20 said.

"Alright guys, I think you know what's coming. We'll vote YET AGAIN!!! It does seem like the best way to take care of this." slackygorgeking said.


Ok, Day 5 ends in 48 hours. No questions asked, we will go fast from now on. Friday at 5 PM Central time is when the day ends. No extentions period.

Even though we have 7 people and it isn't even. If you guys haven't killed any of the wolves yet, you must kill one today otherwise humans lose.

4 Votes to instalynch, get voting!

EDIT: To make the stories a little longer, I sometimes have people speak twice.

patron_viridantis
March 2nd, 2005, 04:38 PM
My vote goes to Demon. At this point I must admit it's a shot in the dark but as a member of an alliance I feel it is my duty to uphold whatever comradery and/or foolhardy actions decided by said alliance. He recently stated that it makes little difference to him whether he's gone or not at cause of the initial bandwagoning. The potential lyncher within me says "good bye".

slackygorgeking
March 2nd, 2005, 04:40 PM
Demon is acting very suspicous, our alliance agrees that he is the most likely wolf here and has earned my vote

gj gamepro u got the game going quick

daniel_lewis20
March 2nd, 2005, 04:47 PM
For my vote:

Inactivity+Suspicious behavior+pisses me off=wolf

So, just goes to show it's always good not to make enemies in a game where you need to align yourself with the right people.

Demon

Demon_Of_The_Comet
March 2nd, 2005, 05:06 PM
Well this is interesting.

Because of loss of interest due to the bandwagoning in night 1, then my recent return to post scores and check out whats happened, AND because i debunked Daniels proof, im some kind of wolf?

Sorry but even if i WAS a wolf, i would try to get in an alliance, and me saying "I dont care if im lynched or not" doesnt suggest im a wolf cuz I WOULD WANT TO KILL PEOPLE!

not to mention people never want to invite me to chats.


But im telling you people, im not a wolf, if i was a wolf, id be more active and involved in chats, trying to figure out who is getting close to finding me out. But i havent, I HAVENT BEEN TO A SINGLE DAMN CHAT SINCE THIS GAME STARTED.

People just dont feel that im important enough to invite to chats.
But im no wolf, just tell me how and ill prove it(BTW im not posting my role pm from GP)

Demon_Of_The_Comet
March 2nd, 2005, 05:21 PM
Oh man, i just read over the last 3 pages
XD

Think to yourselves for a bit, if i am in fact voted off, not only do you lose a good mind, you also have to vote amongst your "alliance"
Im telling you, im no wolf, and when im gone your gonna be pretty pissed to know that the wolf was in your little "alliane"

slackygorgeking
March 2nd, 2005, 06:14 PM
Oh man, i just read over the last 3 pages
XD

Think to yourselves for a bit, if i am in fact voted off, not only do you lose a good mind, you also have to vote amongst your "alliance"
Im telling you, im no wolf, and when im gone your gonna be pretty pissed to know that the wolf was in your little "alliane"

ur whole defense makes u sound even more likea wolf

we didnt know ur aim its hard for us to invite u when u make no try at all....
there is no wolf in our alliance...
u have no defense only that u werent invited into a chat... we didnt know ur aim buddy i had to pm u just to get it

VashtheGunman7
March 2nd, 2005, 10:54 PM
Just saying that we need to use our time that we have to our advantage we need to get more info about the people we are voting for. Seeing if we haven't killed any wolves, we lose.

Demon_Of_The_Comet
March 3rd, 2005, 02:24 PM
Thank you Vash.
You people have no solid proof on me

All you have is inactivity and your own thoughts.

VashtheGunman7
March 3rd, 2005, 03:45 PM
I have read over this entire game a few times now and all I can say is this. Demon you have done alot of bandwaggoning and that is your downfall. Look Demon I am really sorry about this but right now we really have no other proof but your bandwagoning.

Demon_Of_The_Comet
March 3rd, 2005, 03:52 PM
I havent bandwagoned anything!
Look back in this topic, i only voted on night 1 and that was for you!

I didnt even vote on the last night!

Rebirth0
March 3rd, 2005, 03:54 PM
That's instalynch. I'm writing the story and will have it up soon.

Rebirth0
March 3rd, 2005, 04:15 PM
NIGHT 6



Several hours passed before the small group could make a decision on who to kill.

"Ok, damn I hate to say it but...Demon_Of_The_Comet we think you're a wolf. It's as simple as that." slackygorgeking said boldly.

"You're making a huge mistake guys!" Demon_Of_The_Comet yelled out, "Just listen, I'm not a wolf! Please listen to me! I want to leave this place alive." he pleaded.

"We've grown not to care anymore Demon, if we chose someone else to kill you wouldn't care much either would you?" daniel_lewis20 replied.

"I'll give you this, a quick and painless death. Hopefully you don't have a strong will to survive." patron_virdantis said as he pulled out a gun from his pants pocket and shot Demon_Of_The_Comet in the center of his forehead. Demon fell to the ground staring at patron_virdantis as he slowly drifted away.

patron_virdantis turned around and noticed everybody was looking at him and the gun instead of Demon_Of_The_Comet. "Dude, where did you get that gun? You've had that all along!!?" VashtheGunman7 asked angrily.

"You haven't noticed it? I've seen it poking out of his pocket for days. haha, don't worry, I've been watching him because I've felt suspicious about him. He hasn't killed anyone with it exept Demon." babybenji2004 said.

"Glad to hear that, we have some defence now." daniel_lewis20 replied cheerfully.

"Well, it's getting late guys. Let's go to sleep." babybenji2004 said as he yawned.

"Uh..what do we do with these corpses?" slackygorgeking asked while looking over at Demon and qualy.

"Should we throw them downstairs? At least it would make us feel safer and less uncomfortable." deltro300111 said.

"Alright, sounds good to me." VashtheGunman7 said, "Come on patron, help me throw these bodies downstairs."

patron_virdantis and VashtheGunman7 threw the dead bodies of Demon_Of_The_Comet and qualy downstairs, never to see them again.

"Alright, let's get some sleep." deltro300111 said as he sat against a wall.

I need PMs from the Wolves, Guardian and Seer.

Good, now humans know that they've killed at least one wolf so far. Why? Because I posted a Night 6 story.

Rebirth0
March 3rd, 2005, 04:31 PM
DAY 6



Everybody started waking up and started checking if anyone had died.

"Wow. Amazing! Nobody has died yet! I think we got the killer guys! We can leave finally!" slackygorgeking said in excitement.

"Ughhh....errr" patron_viridantis said like he was in severe pain.

"What's the matter patron?" VashtheGunman7 asked, feeling concerned.

"Sorry guys, I couldn't help you through this." patron_viridantis said as he fell to his death on the floor.

"Oh my god. Not again, I guess you were wrong slacky." deltro300111 said while trying to find out the cause of death.

"Look at this guys. Either he shot himself in the side of his chest, or someone else did and he amazingly lived through the pain up until now." babybenji2004 shockingly said.

"I feel sorry for him. He had to live with the pain for who knows how long, that was a slow and horrible death." daniel_lewis20 said looking at the ground.

Ok, I want to have my breakfast but then we should vote again to kill someone. Which one should we do?" VashtheGunman7 asked after his stomach started growling.

"We should stay and vote. We won't sleep too much tonight, we can eat all night if we have to." deltro300111 said.

"Alright that settles it. We vote now." slackygorgeking said.


slackygorgeking
deltro300111
babybenji2004
daniel_lewis20
VashtheGunman7

3 Votes to instalynch. You guys know you've killed at least one wolf. If two are left you must kill one today or it's game over for the humans.

48 hours, Saturday at 6 PM Central.

patron_viridantis
March 3rd, 2005, 04:37 PM
jeeze you couldn't even spell my name right! well best of luck to the remaining HA. and jolly good play by the wolves if i have to say it. at least one wolf is down time... so it's time to go hunting humans! dead though i may be... LA RESISTANCE C'ETAIT MORTE JAMAIS!!!!!

Rebirth0
March 3rd, 2005, 04:46 PM
Sorry, I never noticed the I in your name, I've always done it virdantis not viridantis. And when I said your name the first time, it was a type-o.

Demon_Of_The_Comet
March 3rd, 2005, 05:54 PM
Well i am lynched.
I just want to let you know that you have ****ed up and i hope the humans lose.

Just a little tip, try THINKING before you bandwagon someone

Jackasses

-Demon

daniel_lewis20
March 3rd, 2005, 06:16 PM
ok demon, you are acting like a child and I can be honest and say that everyone else would agree with me. Every person who's been wolfed or lynched have at least left with some dignity. So it just goes to show that you wouldn't last 10 minutes in TWG. And to the rest of the humans in the game, we need you to be more active if we want to win, come on, we can do this.

babybenji2004
March 3rd, 2005, 06:43 PM
sorry for my inactivity but due to current events i have decided to resign. Track+a lot of homework=not a lot of time

Rebirth0
March 3rd, 2005, 06:49 PM
Ok, I'm writing a story for Day 6.5, it's not Night 7 yet. Why? babybenji2004 quit the game so he will commit suicide, and Vash dies from a hidden gunshot from Night 6. Then Day 6.5 starts, 3 people left and they will vote on it. After that the game ends.

I'm writing the story now.

slackygorgeking
March 3rd, 2005, 06:58 PM
alright gg guys

deltro
u almost wont deltro nt "wolf"

slackygorgeking
March 3rd, 2005, 06:58 PM
tiill the end danle

HA??

daniel_lewis20
March 3rd, 2005, 07:00 PM
well, it was a great game, I enjoyed it very much. I've been wanting to do this for an extremely long time ever since he called me a wolf. Deltro you are the weakest link, goodbye. HA ALL THE WAY!!!!!!!!!!

Rebirth0
March 3rd, 2005, 07:04 PM
Ok. I'm making the Night 7 story then, 3 deaths in this story. It will be able an hour at most. Instalynch at deltro300111

slackygorgeking
March 3rd, 2005, 07:08 PM
GG I LOVE U ALL

TY TY

Rebirth0
March 3rd, 2005, 07:24 PM
NIGHT 7



"Alright guys do we have a vote? Come on let me know!" slackygorgeking said quickly, trying to get this over with.

"Yes I know one. I know exactly who to kill." babybenji2004 yelled out. He took out patrons gun and held it up. "I know exactly who to kill....me! I'm sick of this stuff, I don't even want to live anymore. All of my friends have died in this place, so I will too." he said as he pointed the gun at the side of his head. He then shot himself in the head and fell ontop of deltro300111 who was standing behind him.

"No way! This is exactly what NOT to do when we're this close to leaving this place." deltro300111 said, "Damn he got blood all over my shirt, sick."

"My god why? WHY!!!" VashtheGunman7 screamed, but just then, VashtheGunman7 fell to the side, holding his chest. It was bleeding, as if he were shot in the lower ribs. He coughed a few times then died, right there, inches away from babybenji2004.

You've got to be kidding me! People are rushing to death, we have to do the voting NOW! RIGHT NOW! daniel_lewis20 yelled.

"Hmm, uh...I know, I vote deltro300111." slackygorgeking said.

"Wow, that's what I was about to say." Alright deltro300111, you're dead! daniel_lewis20 said.

"I think you're the killer. You have to be." slackygorgeking said.

"No...please NO!" deltro300111 said in a panick.

"You!! You killed everybody, now you'll get to experience the worst way of death. Being beat to death!" daniel_leis20 screamed, overpowering deltro300111 in voice level.

So daniel_lewis20 and slackygorgeking started punching and kicking deltro300111 all over his body. He screamed at the pain "AHHH NOOO PLEASE STOP" he screamed as his life and energy started to fade. Then he fell to the floor crying, "Please guys! I didn't do it!" he sobbed.

"We don't want to hear it, you're dead." slackygorgeking said as he kicked deltro300111 in the back of the head. He then died.

"Is this the end? Is it truly over slacky?" daniel_lewis20 asked as he started to cry.

"Yes. It's over." slacky replied.

slackygorgeking walked over to babybenji2004 and reached for the gun. "Over for you I mean!" he said as he smiled an evil smile.

"OH NO!!! No, I've made the worst mistake. Please don't tell me you did all of this slacky. PLEASE!" daniel_lewis20 said as he looked at the floor.

slackygorgeking looked at daniel_lewis20 with burning hatred in his eyes, like if he were racist against any and all humans. "Cya daniel_lewis." slacky said as he held the gun infront of daniel_lewis20's forehead. "It ends now." he said.

slackygorgeking then shot daniel_lewis20 in the dead center of his forehead, and then dropped the gun on the body.

"Ha! Maybe I should live here from now on, a great place." slackygorgeking said to daniel_lewis20 as he was alive for his last few seconds.


THE END


Well sorry humans, slacky was the last remaining wolf.


WOLVES WIN.


I'll see you guys in Postgame!