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Old 08-15-2022, 08:05 PM   #1
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Default The Official New Musician Reward System

Hello! I'll be running a new reward system that involves stepping songs for FFR with new musicians. When you a submit file with a new musician to any batch and it gets accepted, you will earn a point. Most points award you credits, but earn a certain amount and you can win an event token!


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How do I sign up?
As soon as you submit a file through the FFR batch system, you've essentially signed up. You do not need to post in this thread if you don't want to. I'll be tracking all submissions and whether or not they contain a new musician. Accepted submissions that meet the new musician requirements will be tracked.

How do I know if a musician is new to FFR?
The easiest method would probably be to ask me in this thread. I've already gone through and tracked every new musician that's currently in our queue waiting to be released, on top of every new musician in files that have been accepted or unjudged in all of the batches for this year. Otherwise you can follow the steps below:

First, check out our Permissions List and Information thread. This will provide you with a list of the artists that have given FFR permission to use their work. After that, the easiest way to see if the musician you've selected is new is to head over to the song list page and do an author search for them. You'll also want to check our queue of accepted files, and then the batches for this year to see what has been submitted/accepted so far.

How does the point system work?
You can only receive a maximum of one point per accepted file and a minimum of half a point. This means if your file has multiple new musicians, you will only receive one point. If you collaborate on a file with other people, everyone will receive half a point. If you and someone else separately submit two files by the same new musician, you each receive half a point. This is an annual event, so points reset at the end of the year. Eligible batches for this year's points are those that opened up in 2022.

A new musician is a musician regardless of the permission source. If FFR got permission from a label and that label has 20 new musicians in it, that's 20 potential points up for grabs. It's important to note that a new musician is considered as the single individual behind the music. If they have multiple aliases, it still is only one new musician for the sake of this event.

There may be unique cases of handing out points that I'll have to address as time goes on. (Such as if a song has a ridiculous amount of new musicians and it could be unfair to prevent others from using them.) I'll try to be as flexible as possible.

How do I know how many points I have?
I keep track of all of that on this spreadsheet!

The spreadsheet is mainly a point total reference and which batches they came from. I keep track of the files the new musicians came from separately, but feel free to message me if I missed anything. I only start tracking files in a batch once that batch has closed. I'll try to keep the spreadsheet updated soon after judges post notes!

Because of it being late in the year and points resetting annually, I am retroactively counting points for all eligible files in batches with a 2022 opening date.

What if someone submits a file with the same musician before me but mine gets accepted before theirs?
I consider a file's acceptance date as the closing date for the batch it was submitted in. This is to make points not dependent on when a file is judged. Submitting files to batches that close earlier in the year will give you the advantage of having the musician still be new.

What are the rewards?
For the most part, you'll be receiving 10,000 credits per point earned. On the 3rd, 6th, and 10th point, you have the option of choosing an event token! Eligible tokens are those stated as being "prizes during officially sanctioned events" but I'll provide a list below as well.


You can only receive a maximum of three event tokens a year through this event. If you have all of the event tokens, you can either gift your token to someone else or take 50k credits instead. (You can choose the 50k credit reward instead even if you don't have all of the event tokens.)

How does gifting work?
You are only allowed to gift away an event token you've won if you already have all of the event tokens that are awarded through this event. A user is eligible for this gift if they have earned at least half a point and haven't reached the annual maximum of three event tokens.

My file was accepted! When do I receive my award?
To stay in line with the submission guidelines, rewards for accepted files will not be handed out earlier than two weeks from when a file was accepted. This is to allow for fixes before the file becomes queued. I'll be able to hand out the rewards very quickly once everything checks out.

For the purpose of this event, a file marked as "Change Recommended" or "Fixes Required" will be considered as a pending accepted file. However, your point/reward will not be handed out until you've followed the required process for the rating as per the submission guidelines thread.





I know that's a lot of information to go over but please ask me any questions you may have! This event is designed to benefit those that choose to bring more wonderful new musicians into this game, so I want to make sure everything makes sense for you. If you also notice that I missed a new musician you had accepted, or I marked one as being new when it isn't (such as missing an alias), let me know! You can post in this thread, send me a PM, or message me on Discord. If this event goes well, I'll continue it for next year.

Good luck!!

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Old 08-15-2022, 08:12 PM   #2
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This is cool.
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really awesome, and good incentive to get people into some new music ��

Will points be given for stuff that is already in the accepted queue but not released yet? (nvm i didn't see this case was already account for!)
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Old 08-15-2022, 08:34 PM   #4
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This is quite obviously a stern and painfully worded post directed at ositz to stop submitting Venetian Snares

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Old 08-15-2022, 08:34 PM   #5
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I should have 1 point less, since SPELL BREAK is a alias of ETIA.
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i have 1 point cause of qwerty song
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Old 08-15-2022, 08:38 PM   #7
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I should have 1 point less, since SPELL BREAK is a alias of ETIA.
Thanks for the info! I'll update that in a bit.
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Oh it seems I'm already eligible for a token. I'll take GOD Of MADNESS. Thanks!
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i have 1 point cause of qwerty song
Can you link me to the file submission within the batch system, please? I'll take a look at it.

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Oh it seems I'm already eligible for a token. I'll take GOD Of MADNESS. Thanks!
Sounds good! I'll get some rewards sent out this week once I triple check things and make sure everything is in order all around.

To those that are eligible for rewards, feel free to let me know in this thread or by contacting me. Otherwise I'll message you at some point.


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Update on the point list:
-Removed SPELL BREAK for being an alias of an existing musician. (ETIA) jh05013 point update 4.5 -> 3.5
-Removed Sobrem for being an alias of an existing musician. (Widowmaker) ositzxz369 point update 4 -> 3

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gimme mope mope please
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Some more aliases I've noticed:
- かめりあ is just Camellia written in Japanese.
- Sobrem (the one in the sheet), Widowmaker, and w_tre are all the same person.
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really awesome, and good incentive to get people into some new music 👀

Will points be given for stuff that is already in the accepted queue but not released yet?
Sorry I missed this before! Files in queue that haven't been released will count if they were accepted within a batch that opened this year. That should already be reflected in the spreadsheet but please let me know if I missed anything.
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Some more aliases I've noticed:
- かめりあ is just Camellia written in Japanese.
- Sobrem (the one in the sheet), Widowmaker, and w_tre are all the same person.
Got the Sobrem one. (Edited that update into my previous post.) Thanks for the Camellia info!


Update:
Removed かめりあ from list for being an existing musician (Camellia in Japanese).
Velocity point total 7 -> 6.5
Gold stinger point total 4 -> 3.5
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Old 08-15-2022, 09:38 PM   #13
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This is quite obviously a stern and painfully worded post directed at ositz to stop submitting Venetian Snares

Screw ositz in particular I guess


I'm really digging this event. This is a great way to get new artists into the game and exposure for them while also gameify it!
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here xj https://www.flashflashrevolution.com...batch/?id=1843
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Old 08-16-2022, 12:10 AM   #16
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I imagine it would be rather easy to game this system using the blanket permissions for bms of fighters, label permissions, etc.

I'm not sure if this is a drive to just get more genres of music into the game, in which case it's all good, or specifically to encourage people to reach out to new artists, in which case the above situations probably shouldn't count.

Either way, cool initiative.
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I knew there had to be something I missed in the main post.

I go through a batch after it has closed, so that's why that musician isn't in the spreadsheet yet for you. The Aug/Sept 2022 batch and Dump Batch haven't been looked at yet because of this. Sorry for not explaining that earlier!

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I imagine it would be rather easy to game this system using the blanket permissions for bms of fighters, label permissions, etc.

I'm not sure if this is a drive to just get more genres of music into the game, in which case it's all good, or specifically to encourage people to reach out to new artists, in which case the above situations probably shouldn't count.

Either way, cool initiative.
This is basically why there's an annual cap on event token rewards. The main purpose is to get new musicians into FFR, so I'd rather be open about it instead of limiting where they come from in our permission system. This system can definitely change depending on how things go, though.
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More aliases? found:
- Iriss is an alias of s-don.
- ああああ is just AAAA written in Japanese.
- Fracus & Darwin is a single artist (they work as a duo).
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More aliases? found:
- Iriss is an alias of s-don.
- ああああ is just AAAA written in Japanese.
- Fracus & Darwin is a single artist (they work as a duo).
Thanks again for the help.

Update for now:
-Removed both ああああ and Iriss for being aliases of existing musicians. (AAAA and s-don respectively.) ああああ only pertained to an unjudged file so no definite points were affected.
-Changed "Fracus, Darwin" to "Fracus & Darwin". No points were affected due to one point maximum per file.

-Ghost_Medley points reduced from 3 -> 2
-Velocity potential points reduced by 1

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Since both of you have given me event token requests already, I've gone through your new musicians first to verify that they are new to FFR. Everything looks good to me, so I'll be handing out your rewards shortly.

You'll each receive 20k credits on top of the requested event token.

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Credits/tokens have been sent.

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