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Old 12-13-2003, 04:34 AM   #21
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Oooooh ya. Make people suffer at your expense seeing how you're dieing anyway eh? Nice. I chick did just kill herself in my school two days ago. Well, she either killed herself or her boyfriend killed her. She was one of my friends cousins. I know death isn't funny. But I guess it is now?
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Old 12-13-2003, 04:45 AM   #22
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For a period of my life I was actually suicidal, and almost did it several times.. It is something, like most things,people don't understand until they have been through it.. I suppose I should explain what was going on..

I had a "unique" medical condition, in that my left shoulder, dominant shoulder, was not functioning properly. They tried every test known to man and couldn't find anything wrong with me. I couldn't wave to someone without risking falling to my knees in pain. I had to take pain medication for an unknown reason for about two years, and it didn't even make the pain go away, but took it down from unbearable to manageable. Pills would wear off quicker and I had to keep taking more..

I was in a band then, and i couldn't play guitar.. I couldn't play sports, and sometimes I couldn't write or type, wash my hair, eat food, etc.. On top of that, my parents were going through a terrible divorce, no one really understood my situation, or let alone understood that I was seriously ill because I looked fine on the outside..

The pain ALWAYS got worse.. like you think "this is the worst it could do" and then it would hurt more, and all you can do is just lie there motionless and scream. My blood thinned from the pills, and I began to have an ulcer on top of it, but the doctors weren't sure what to do with me. Normal cuts bled like i ruptured arteries.. i was a mess..and I began to wonder, "why me? why can't i play ball like everyone else?" I sunk into a heavy depressive state because of it.

Chronic pain sucks, and after about a 2 and a half years it was hell waking up, because every time I did it would be because pain pills wore off and i was in terrible pain, and then having to go through a day knowing what could happen, and living in six hour intervals, which is when you would top off with pills again. Crippling pain,v eyes blurrin, teeth grinding, fist clenching pain.. you can't move.. and all you want to do is tear out the part of your body where it is coming from to make it better, or if nothing else, feel different.

you could never sit comfortably, not ever get it completely off your mind, not being able to remember what it feels like to not be in pain, or remember a time you weren't..


Talk all the shit you want, but if i had a friend in as much pain as me, or more, then I would be upset they killed themselves, but i wouldn't hold it against them..

and if you still got shit with it, then like i said, you just don't know what pain really is.
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Old 12-13-2003, 05:29 AM   #23
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No.. I understand you completely Spook.. my friend has almost the same problem with his stomach.. and he has actually confessed to me that after these doctor treaments that hes on if they can't find a cure or something to help it out, he will probably commit suicide.. now this is my best friend for well over 10 years... lives across the street from me.. and i see him almost evreyday.. thinking about losing him one day just about brings tears to my eyes.. ( for fact just typing that little bit did bring tears to my eyes).. but you know what he does about his problem??.. believes.. he has faith that there is a cure for it and he's going to stay alive and deal with it until they do find out what exactly he has wrong with him and how to fix it.. I may come off as im saying "Just go kill yourself", but im not.. im just stressing the fact that killing your self is a stupid thing to do.. and im sorry you had to go through all that, and assuming its better now, im glad for that also.. see you also believed.. you stuck through the pain and got past it.. you didn't kill yourself after a month or 2 months or even a year of pain.. for your tolerance and faith in yourself you were rewarded with life.. life without the pain... a good life with friends and people who care about you.. just to think.. if you would of commited suicide you would of died miserably.. but not you can rest in peace with your head high and a smile on your face knowing that you did the best with what you had and lead the best life you could have..
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Old 12-13-2003, 06:24 AM   #24
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Look, there are many things in life that makes one want to kill themselves - Many. The thing is, those people who go to others and say they're going to are selfish, and full of shit. I read only about 85% of this thread, not seeing anything about anyone mentioning the thought of people that hmm, care about you? You know how many people you will hurt, for the rest of their lives, if you end your own? It's ridiculous, you many not care about yourself or the preservation of your well-being, but I'd suspect you'd at least give a damn about the probably countless people who care about you. People who come to me saying they're going to kill themselves are retards, I say do it. It's a slap in the face to them, and then I bitch at them not to waste my time with such sympathy-seeking bullshit. If you're in serious pain, and really want to end your life - you let everyone know your feelings, what pain you're in. This sudden "oh, xxxx killed themself" is retarded, the world is better off without people who are so inconsiderate.

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Old 12-13-2003, 09:08 AM   #25
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Spook hit it. None of the people in this thread who are against suicide have obviously never been severely depressed. Depression...it isn't normal. It's not something you can go to sleep on, wake up the next day and feel better. You're only getting up day after day for the hope that tomorrow might be better. Or you're getting up because you don't want to upset your parents. But its nothing to do with enjoying life...the opposite, really. Life is hell, and only those who were suicidal at one point can understand that. It might be easy to stand on the sidelines and say "Suicide is bad under any circumstances" but there are some conditions where it might be your only way out.
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This page has long responses

let me sum it up

No matter how bad life gets......suicide=bad
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but there are some conditions where it might be your only way out.
Name one..
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Old 12-13-2003, 07:15 PM   #28
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None of the people in this thread who are against suicide have obviously never been severely depressed.
Why do you even waste your and ours with your assumptions? Do you know everyone personally on this thread, and know what they've gone through? I know damn well you have no idea who I am, so I'd suggest stopping with the inane assumptions that make you look far more ignorant than I'd hope you want to come off as.
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Old 12-13-2003, 07:16 PM   #29
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terminal illness
the technical term for that is euthanasia...
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Old 12-13-2003, 07:33 PM   #30
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None of the people in this thread who are against suicide have obviously never been severely depressed.
Why do you even waste your and ours with your assumptions? Do you know everyone personally on this thread, and know what they've gone through? I know damn well you have no idea who I am, so I'd suggest stopping with the inane assumptions that make you look far more ignorant than I'd hope you want to come off as.
First off, that could be classified as a flame, and that could give me an excuse to flame you back. I'm not going to, but I'd like to state that for the record.

Second, I'm not wasting jack. All you people who are like 'Suicide is bad always no questions' probably never have been severely depressed, because standing from the sidelines it's easy to say that. But if you had experienced what its like to be so depressed that you just want to die, you'd understand a lot better.
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you know what.. your right i have never been severly depressed.. highest depression rate for me was when my cat died.. or maybe when my great gandma died... thats the peak of it for me.. but you know what??.. it doesn't matter.. suicide IS stupid.. and suicide IS the dumbest thing you can do..

I will now analyze it from different perspectives..

Religion (christianity).. you going to hell if you commit suicide.. so whats the big drive there.. you suffer in life.. you suffer more in hell... your not raising the bar any..

Tired of the Pain: oh well.. kill yourself.. get rid of the pain.. end your life at an early age.. or wait... take the pain, wait for the cure/something to stop the pain, and have happy memorys for your life... knowing that you "conquered" something is a GREAT fealing..

No one likes you: Who gives a shit.. your meaning of life is not to make other people like you its to reproduce.. thats it.. we are here as the surviving members of the human race.. we are NOT here to impress anyone.. you couldnt be the dirtiest, ugly, fat, and anyother type of thing people don't like and have more purpose on this earth if you had a kid than if you were rich, handsome/cute, popular and couldn't have kids.. you life is poitnless without being able to have kids... but you know what you shouldn't do??.. commit suicide.. contribute something else to life.. or don't contribute something, just have fun.. either way its better than death..
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Religion (christianity).. you going to hell if you commit suicide.. so whats the big drive there.. you suffer in life.. you suffer more in hell... your not raising the bar any..
Yeah, well according to the Bible, if you're not Christian you go to Hell also, so forgive me if I don't take it to literally.

Its true. The Bible states that not believing in Jesus is a sin, and only Jesus can forgive your sins, so if you're any religion that doesn't believe in Christ you're basically going to Hell. Now, I didn't need the bible to tell me that I'm going to Hell, but I don't believe in any of this anyway so the point for me is moot.
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Anti, you can flame me all you want to be honest, I couldn't care less. You still continue to say these people "probably" haven't, or haven't experienced whatever feeling of depression. You're assuming things left and right, for all you know everyone who posted here could've been on the brink of suicide and are listing their fucking reasons why they're still alive, god. stupid - exercise thinking.
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Yes, but you seem to not know how to read, because I've explained my fucking reasons MANY FUCKING TIMES. I don't know what your deal is with this issue, but its beginning to piss me off. Now I really don't want to get into a flame war with you. I've explained that the reason I believe most of these people have never experienced severe depression is because if they had, they probably wouldn't be responding the way they are.

Now do me a favor. LAY THE HELL OFF. Did your friend commit suicide or something, and you're touchy about it?



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Old 12-13-2003, 09:22 PM   #35
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I'm the touchy one? It just makes me sick to see people making themselves look foolish by assuming x or y, so sorry. Because people don't respond the way you expect, it says they haven't gone through depression, sure.

News Flash! You don't know everything, and your idea of what should be doesn't apply to everyone.

This thread doesn't belong on this board. I saw the trainwreck it'd be before I ever clicked on it.
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Old 12-13-2003, 09:27 PM   #36
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AMEN souj, get it the hell locked
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hmm... and i was having fun with this..
oh well..
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