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Old 06-15-2006, 05:31 AM   #61
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Maybe all of your theories are correct, well... most, it could be a combination of different things. Things that no one really remembers, lack of a certain parental presence, or parent abusal. Different levels of hormones, state of mind, manner of thinking. I believe that if there IS a particular pattern or cause for homosexuality, that it shouldn't be found. It wouldn't come to me as a surprise if homophobic people would try to stop whatever that pattern or cause from happening. We're all individuals, one has the ability to do what he/she pleases if it doesn't infringe other people's same rights or happiness if you prefer
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Old 06-15-2006, 05:39 AM   #62
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Gay Marrige is about money and tax issues. They can get married as they please under the eyes of god, just not in the eyes of the state.

Oh wait this isn't a gay marrige topic. What the hell.

Tests have proven that all of those theories can be found throughout gays everywhere.
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Old 06-18-2006, 04:32 PM   #63
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Just to insert a random point, how do you know you're heterosexual?
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Old 06-18-2006, 06:10 PM   #64
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I think that heterosexuality is basically that you prefer someone of the opposite sex over someone over the same sex both in relationships and sexually. Well that is just my opinion. Now, after reading over the thred, I really am starting to believe that homosexuality can not be pinpointed at one thing. Everyone brought up good points, especially Afro and Kles. But my point comes up again, if the ENVIROMENT now plays a huge role with genetics and the theory of natural selection, wouldn't the "heterosexuals" eventually root out the things that lead to homosexuality? From the posts in this thread, people have been implying that it is mainly the enviroment that one grows up in that determines sexuality. Does this mean that mankind could potentially destroy homosexuality? Just another point to bring up and I'll probably get shot down. =)
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Old 06-18-2006, 07:08 PM   #65
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people have been implying that it is mainly the enviroment that one grows up in that determines sexuality. Does this mean that mankind could potentially destroy homosexuality?
In the same way that mankind could potentially destroy, say... autism.

When I said "environment" (I don't know if Kles and Afro mean it the same way), I mostly meant everything that affects the child's development in the mother - hormone levels in the uterus, weird genetics in the child that affect its own hormone production, etc. Studies have been done that suggest that homosexuality is something that you are born with (a birth "defect," if you really want to think about it that way), not something that you develop depending on how you grow up after you're born. Although I suppose some accident in early childhood could potentially cause a hormonal imbalance.

If you want to tinker with genes to make sure this never happens, then, uh, sure. Super babies ftw.

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Just to insert a random point, how do you know you're heterosexual?
Do you like boobies?
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Old 06-18-2006, 09:29 PM   #66
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Just to insert a random point, how do you know you're heterosexual?
1. Be born a guy.
2. See naked girl.
3. ?????
4. Boner.
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Old 06-19-2006, 11:54 PM   #67
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Serious rhetorical question guys and girls, just think about it. Cause you could ask a person that is homosexual, "how do you know you're homosexual?"
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Old 06-20-2006, 07:45 AM   #68
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I would say that being gay is more based on your upbringing than on your genes.
Thats funny cause i think its completly the opposite.


And you just know. You know if you are attracted to something.
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Old 06-20-2006, 10:52 AM   #69
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Being bisexual, favouring men I know what I'm saying.

I did not have an odd upbringing. This is how I've always been. There HAS to be something genetic about it, and it has to be the main factor.
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Old 06-20-2006, 07:29 PM   #70
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It's not a conscious choice. As you grow up, you simply find yourself more attracted to members of your own gender. Sometimes, you may still be attracted to the opposite gender. Sometimes, you're attracted to certain things about men, and certain things about women. The issue of sexuality is as far from black and white as possible. It's all grey. The only choice you make is the choice to act on what you truly are in nature or the choice to fake being straight.

The same can be said about transexuality as well as nonsexuality.
I agree with this stance.

I personally think it's a combination of: Genetics, Looks, and Social Life.

Oddly enough, I don't have a single homosexual or bisexual person in my family line (that I know of) and I turned out bisexual. Different factors for different people I guess.
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Old 06-22-2006, 04:14 PM   #71
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I am the same way. No one even close to me is bisexual/gay yet I am. Of course, they are rather Catholic everywhere in my family except my own branch of the family, therefore maybe some are hiding it... but probably not.
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Old 06-22-2006, 05:20 PM   #72
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THEIR THE ONES WHO FRIKKEN BROUGHT AIDS TO THIS WORLD!!!!!!!!





...right?....
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Old 06-23-2006, 03:41 AM   #73
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learn your there/their/they're 's please.

Is there an explanation on nonsexuality somewhere in the last three pages?
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Old 06-23-2006, 11:15 AM   #74
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I believe becoming gay depends on the family you were brought up in, with 90% of this reasoning being how religious your family is. It says right in the bible that gays are a sin and will go to hell. So if you were raised into a christian family there is a lot less chance of you turning out homosexual becuase you learn about it from your parents and a priest. (especially these days becuase of it always being on the news) So if you have no one telling you that it's bad and you'll go to hell if you turn up like that, then there is a way greater chance you'll be gay. However I do think it is way too harsh and saying that all gays will go to hell because most of them could help the way they think.
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Old 06-23-2006, 01:08 PM   #75
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First of all, Afrobean needs to stop posting.

Second, I think that your environment pretty much has nothing to do with your sexuality. I have two pretty close gay-guy friends, and they grew up in completely normal family situations.

Your question is like asking if any genetic mutation could get wiped out over time (for example downs syndrome, etc), and obviously it won't be because it's a genetic mutation. I don't know much about it but I think jewpin said something earlier in this thread about it. There's something in you that makes you more attracted to your sex than the opposite.
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the fact that you're resorting to threatening physical violence says a lot anyway.
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Old 06-23-2006, 02:00 PM   #76
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uhhhh jurs, Down's Syndrome is not caused by a mutation - it's caused by an accident during meiosis, called trisomy of the 21st chromosome, in which the 23rd chromosome pair doesn't split and separate properly, leaving a gamete with an extra piece, so the child that results from a conception involving the "defective" gamete is born with all their other chromosomes double (like normal) but their 21st one is triple.

Also TIkimanJr is a dumbass.
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Old 06-23-2006, 02:13 PM   #77
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I was pretty sure I was taught that Downs was a genetic mutation.

Maybe my teacher was a dumbass.

Well she was, so I wouldn't be surprised if you're right.
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Old 06-23-2006, 04:05 PM   #78
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Trying to find the roots of homosexuality is like trying to find the roots of S&M or pedophilia.

It's all environment, guys.
This is hilariously wrong.
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Old 06-23-2006, 06:52 PM   #79
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This is hilariously wrong.
Can you prove that?

No. You can't.
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Can you prove what YOU said?

I had your every day family upbringing with caring parents and a normal familiar life. I even saw my first porn mag when I was really young (6?) and looked at it OFTEN. I was always more intregued by the cocks than the women.

Say what you want but I've been gay for all my life.
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