TWG 210: Vanilla Ice Cream in Sprite [GAME THREAD]

[mellon_collie]

Originally Posted by the sun fan

I cant go with raeko on xel (sorry raeko)
I cant go back to bugkid
I cant go on ben
I cant go on star without like committing myself to a bughouse

No one seems to give a fuck aboht botchi
I kinda dont know what to do i feel.stunlocked

dbp???

I don't necessarily hate it but do you have anything else other than POE?

[FreezinIce]

Originally Posted by DaBackpack

"I think star might be a wolf, but I'm voting for bugkid instead." <---- If a CFD happens on a bug wagon, then Ben can always "safely" vote star instead.

"If bug is town, then H&H is a wolf." <---- If bug is town and flips this phase, Ben has a "safe" vote for tomorrow.

This is clear as day to me. IDK why no one else is noticing these things

I notice it but it's not that simple and you know it. It's not enough that this was said and you make a connection, they have to be capable of doing this framed against the broader picture of their playstyle this game. I have more often than not seen these "slam dunk" logical connections fall flat in the face of the reality of inconsistent human performance

[ShadoWolfe]

Originally Posted by FreezinIce

I'm not doing a 4d chess move here. Here's my honest thoughts. I know I havnt done a good job explaining what I've been thinking and my progressions so this is trying to fix this

I think you are town, probably my top town atm for reasons I can't super elaborate on because my mind is mushed atm. Summarized as you have a lot of posts and none of them give me bad vibes. And when you powerwolf you usually are a lot more controlling and rigid.

As far as Ben goes, he ends up being null to me, to get a good read on him id have to comb thru his posts and when I tried last time I didn't really get anything from it so I stopped (this wasn't an exaggeration when I said it before)

Botchi seems to be playing kind of like me, he's still pretty null because there isn't enough there for a concrete read but on my own I'd put up a bit over Ben.

But if you are absolutely sure Ben is town here I can defer to your read on him for d0 and go with someone else I don't really feel strongly about

unvote this may be the most genuine thing you've written all game

[roundbox]

The Votecount

star-crossed (3) - benguino, bugkid666, mellon_collie
benguino (3) - DaBackpack, XelNya, FreezinIce

DaBackpack (2) - Hakulyte, the sun fan
the sun fan (1) - _Zenith_
bugkid666 (1) - star-crossed

Unvote - ShadoWolfe
Not voting - Hateandhatred, botchi246

[_Zenith_]

Originally Posted by DaBackpack

"I think star might be a wolf, but I'm voting for bugkid instead." <---- If a CFD happens on a bug wagon, then Ben can always "safely" vote star instead.

"If bug is town, then H&H is a wolf." <---- If bug is town and flips this phase, Ben has a "safe" vote for tomorrow.

This is clear as day to me. IDK why no one else is noticing these things

I didn't until you pointed it out in this way

Seeing it on paper, the position Ben is in and what can be inferred from it makes me feel like town's forced to deal with this right here and now, because as you pointed out, Ben has two outs given one of two hypotheticals play out here.

Dare I ask, what would our repercussions look like if we let this go until tomorrow? Do you think wolves position would become too overwhelming or could you see this naturally resolving?

[ShadoWolfe]

voting ben if the wagons stay star vs ben

[DaBackpack]

Originally Posted by the sun fan

I cant go with raeko on xel (sorry raeko)
I cant go back to bugkid
I cant go on ben
I cant go on star without like committing myself to a bughouse

No one seems to give a fuck aboht botchi
I kinda dont know what to do i feel.stunlocked

dbp???

note to the future: revisit this post if sunfan gets flipped. it feels important

[the sun fan]

Originally Posted by DaBackpack

sincere question:

you're townreading him, sure, but do you accept the premises behind why I and others are finding him wolfy? is it a matter of "I can see why you think this, but I disagree?", or is it "I don't think this rationale is correct at all"

Somewhere in between, but probably more to the first

I kind of think it is stupid (sorry) for people to care so strongly about "you said you sussed person a but u r voting person b" because ive done that at least 2 times today and I am sure I am not the only one

My town read is independent of the other stuff. And I can sure see myself disagree with another villager here

I just worry that my prediction about how no one would foll9w me here moght come true and I think I could defend him harder and better if I was at a computer

Ill cutmwelf off here cuz there's 10 minutes
Sorry to have missed your question in the first place

[FreezinIce]

sorry for shooting down your post with pretty much the equivalent of "no because I said so".

I just think you need more than just this. Maybe not for a d0 push but it feels like your pushing this which such confidence that I'm holding it to a higher standard I guess

[the sun fan]

I hate i am on a wagon with haku rn and I dont know why I feel that way

[the sun fan]

Freezin that is kind odmf two bangers in a row but we need to kill a wolf

[DaBackpack]

Originally Posted by FreezinIce

I notice it but it's not that simple and you know it. It's not enough that this was said and you make a connection, they have to be capable of doing this framed against the broader picture of their playstyle this game. I have more often than not seen these "slam dunk" logical connections fall flat in the face of the reality of inconsistent human performance

100% people with anxiety about lying will do this thing where they don't want to be pinned down to a specific narrative in cause they get caught lying later. it's a subconscious thing.

I'm not saying this is an engineered strategy. It is literally a reaction to mental and emotional stress.

[ShadoWolfe]

benguino

[the sun fan]

I moght vote Ben if I fucking have to but I am like
Beyond unhappy about it
It'd be the kind of thing where I just have to write a few hundred words about why I voted him instead of star thr next day but like
Ugh

This was supposed to be the optimistic phase what the fuck happened

[the sun fan]

If shadowolfe is a wolf he has subtly outplayed me in a way that probably deserves a parade

[roundbox]

The Votecount

benguino (4) - DaBackpack, XelNya, FreezinIce, ShadoWolfe

star-crossed (3) - benguino, bugkid666, mellon_collie
DaBackpack (2) - Hakulyte, the sun fan
the sun fan (1) - _Zenith_
bugkid666 (1) - star-crossed

Not voting - Hateandhatred, botchi246

[mellon_collie]

Originally Posted by the sun fan

I moght vote Ben if I fucking have to but I am like
Beyond unhappy about it
It'd be the kind of thing where I just have to write a few hundred words about why I voted him instead of star thr next day but like
Ugh

This was supposed to be the optimistic phase what the fuck happened

you can still vote star though

[the sun fan]

Mobile eod fucking sucks

[roundbox]

:00 good
:01 bad
:02 shame on you

phase ends in 5 minutes

[FreezinIce]

Originally Posted by the sun fan

Freezin that is kind odmf two bangers in a row but we need to kill a wolf

I'm thinking about it. How confident are you about botchi?