TWG Turbo 39: Timing Error [GAME THREAD]

[MixMasterLar]

Originally Posted by SubaruPoptart

ayyyy what's good yea there's a fair bit

Originally Posted by SubaruPoptart

I'mma have to get ready for work myself, effort's gonna drop dramatically my first bout of phoneposting this game but will attempt to read as I think I should just be puttin stuff up on shelves tonight.

Should be on break bout 4 hours from writing this but it'll only be a 15 so rip. If I'm in the office should be more available from 8:00-9:30 PM 5-6hrs from now.

Dropping that slank which I'm about to have to do at the end of this posts

Originally Posted by SubaruPoptart

I need to find where he was sayin I was puttin in too much effort when I'm done walking but from then up until a few posts ago this lets me know his world was WW Zenith WL Subaru; shitpost or not it's still notable to just kinda put out there

I'm very excited for the reads tbh, I'm on the fence cuz outside of doin strange stuff like this you've come off predominantly townfan. Now that Zenith's here the vote'll mean more ofc but it's definitely somethin new I hadn't considered

He seems to be talking to and about Zenith here??? glancing at the posts around this it's hard to say.

It's ultimately more lukewarm takes that ultimately he could have taken back on a long enough timeframe. There's no hard stances here

Anyway something game up and I have to step away, not an emegency but it is time sensitive

So far the only thing I got from this is I think SunFan and Raeko clear him way too easy.

[MixMasterLar]

So for both Raeko and SunFan: What was your thought process on them at this time?

[mellon_collie]

Originally Posted by leetic

Nakah definitely didn't.

How not...? This man is still alive somehow... if he's still in the game idk how he couldn't have made the kill

Your defense of Nakah (not inactives, Nakah) is so weird

[mellon_collie]

also Nakah if you don't show up I swear to god I will hurt you

[the sun fan]

Originally Posted by MixMasterLar

Reminder that we could have killed Nakah last phase instead of someone who was actually playing the fucking game and we wouldn't be in this situation where we have a dead slot who could lose us the game whenever they get modkilled

I kinda thought that nakah would be either replaced or modkilled

I guess I deserve the "Fell For It Again" award

[mellon_collie]

Originally Posted by leetic

Besides, I feel to have made the Subaru kill the wolf must have been paying close attention to the dynamics of EoD. We should look there first

This is true but there are two wolves so... if one of them was paying attention they could just tell the other one "hey kill this person"

Originally Posted by leetic

I'm not sure on what sight meta is for submitting actions on behalf of inactive partners, so I don't think this means for sure two active wolves.

Nakah was online close to EOD he just didn't post. but he was reading the thread. You could see his username in the public viewers list, sunfan and I both commented on it. Who else are you counting as "inactive" here? FMPOV we don't have any true inactives who would be incapable of making a wolf kill or talking in wolf chat. everybody at least looked at the thread near phase change indicating they've been online and thinking about the game

Originally Posted by the sun fan

I'm killing Nakah or watching Nakah die this shit is biblical how much I want him to die

I feel this in my soul, he has annoyed the shit out of me by not showing up and causing the game to be like this but I just don't know if it's actually the best idea

Originally Posted by MixMasterLar

L Take; Blueberries absolutely rock
Another L Take: I would absolutely try to remember who all could know you hated blueberries (assuming wolves could have picked the fruit and it wasn't like host doing something idk)

I really like blueberries but I'm allergic to them ;_;

Originally Posted by MixMasterLar

Reminder that we could have killed Nakah last phase instead of someone who was actually playing the fucking game and we wouldn't be in this situation where we have a dead slot who could lose us the game whenever they get modkilled

hindsight is 20/20
I maybe would have made a different choice if I'd known he wouldn't be replaced/modkilled but oh well
shure woulda been cool if nakah just actually posted OR POSTS NOW

[mellon_collie]

Originally Posted by MixMasterLar

Looking back, I still feel pretty good that Arp's last post were them giving up as villager and just not trying. I think if they where wolf they would have panicked a lot more.

See I feel the opposite way, I find it's more common for wolves to give up/freeze when they are caught while humans tend to fight more til the end. Because wolves know in their heart you are right, they don't always have that passion that humans have. Humans KNOW YOU ARE WRONG AND REALLY WANT TO FIGHT TO PROVE THEY ARE RIGHT

idk, I just didn't see a lot of fight from Arp

[the sun fan]

Originally Posted by MixMasterLar

So for both Raeko and SunFan: What was your thought process on them at this time?

on hopecaster?
he was probably the person I was most sure to be town. His work just felt incredibly genuine, in short, enough to override a straight contradiction in his response to me.

[the sun fan]

Originally Posted by MixMasterLar

Looking back, I still feel pretty good that Arp's last post were them giving up as villager and just not trying. I think if they where wolf they would have panicked a lot more.

what do you think about my comment about the time-stamp of it
arp sure gave up early, like
it literally feels like arp *was* trying to live with that post

[Arp!]

aaa today's a busy day,,, got some homework and another exam to study for
also wow i can't believe i'm still alive after all that. i really hope i have the time to redeem myself today but i'll have to see how long it takes me to get stuff done

a little annoyed that nakah is still in the game. if they post today that'll make up for it in my eyes, but i would've probably wanted to vote for them had i known this would happen
i agree with leetic in that voting for them now would put us in a scary position if they flip town, so i don't really want to do that unless it's somehow the only viable option by EOD, which seems unlikely to me

sunfan getting a blueberry is interesting!
i assume a poisoned fruit can be sent to the malice wolf, so that doesn't entirely clear anyone who receives one?
if we could somehow confirm that the type of fruit isn't chosen by the host, lar might be onto something! it would certainly be an interesting coincidence otherwise,,,
but at the same time i feel like a wolf who knows that sunfan hates blueberries wouldn't out themself like that (in the event that sunfan knows they know...?)

[the sun fan]

I am not going to pursue the blueberry thing
they're just too popular for it to like
bear any fruit

idk why a wolf would purposefully give me a blueberry if they knew that I didn't like them if there were only some people who would know that

if this were like
idk
a mangosteen or something a lot more obscure that I hated and was given, then I think I might be losing my mind trying to remember anything, but like

blueberries are too ubiquitous, there's just not going to be any productive work done about whether or not a wolf did this on purpose or not

[the sun fan]

the "bear any fruit" pun was unintentional

[mellon_collie]

Originally Posted by MixMasterLar

So for both Raeko and SunFan: What was your thought process on them at this time?

Mindmeld isn't the right word, it's not like we were having the same thoughts or anything, but more like it felt like I could follow his train of thoughts naturally in a way that melded with what I expected from him

When I called him out for forgetting about me, I thought "well maybe he skipped the first few pages and just skimmed the rest and that's why he forgot" and then he posts that same explanation. The way he explained trying to improve his meta made sense to me and seemed genuine (maybe because I am the same way with overthinking everything)

[the sun fan]

Ive got some errands and stuff to do (waiting for my friend before I go and do them)

I *think* that raeko and lar are town and I just need to shore that up

if that is correct, we only lose to leetic/roundbox, I *think* (I know this is muddy you don't need to lecture me about how muddy this is I'm working on it)

I don't want to lose, of course

[Arp!]

Originally Posted by mellon_collie

See I feel the opposite way, I find it's more common for wolves to give up/freeze when they are caught while humans tend to fight more til the end. Because wolves know in their heart you are right, they don't always have that passion that humans have. Humans KNOW YOU ARE WRONG AND REALLY WANT TO FIGHT TO PROVE THEY ARE RIGHT

idk, I just didn't see a lot of fight from Arp

this line of reasoning also makes more sense to me,
but with the combination of feeling kind of overwhelmed and defeated and also feeling reasonably certain that i was going to have the most votes by EOD regardless, i didn't really have the energy to defend myself much more than i did

Originally Posted by the sun fan

what do you think about my comment about the time-stamp of it
arp sure gave up early, like
it literally feels like arp *was* trying to live with that post

i genuinely didn't think very much about how people would respond to that post because i had already sort of given up by that point, like i said. it wasn't an attempt to change anyone's mind!

i'm aware that a lot can go down in the last 4 minutes in a game like this, but i was still kinda panicking so it didn't feel like very much time to me at all -w-'
like, after making that post i got up to brush my teeth and get ready for bed and the votes were all tallied up by the time i got back. it didn't really occur to me that people might change their votes within that time

[the sun fan]

Ngl lar, the hopecaster iso isn't really going to help me
I hope it helps you

[the sun fan]

Arp, the last 10ish minutes of a phase are usually when the most democracy occurs
Im not saying you couldnt have believed no one would move their votes

[Arp!]

Originally Posted by the sun fan

I am not going to pursue the blueberry thing
they're just too popular for it to like
bear any fruit

yeah that's fair,,, i think there are much more important things to focus on at the moment
(not sure if i would've noticed the pun had you not said anything but that is kind of hilarious)

i also feel pretty good about raeko and lar. i still don't fully understand the raeko vote, but that's pretty much been cleared up at this point, and an indirect defense of (town) subaru is certainly not a bad look

[Arp!]

Originally Posted by the sun fan

Arp, the last 10ish minutes of a phase are usually when the most democracy occurs
Im not saying you couldnt have believed no one would move their votes

i understand! i've seen (and participated in) last-minute votes myself. but besides how much time there was remaining it just didn't seem likely to me
i had essentially run out of time to make a reasonable case for myself and/or make a strong enough case against anyone else, so i decided to say farewell and leave it at that

[MixMasterLar]

Originally Posted by mellon_collie

See I feel the opposite way, I find it's more common for wolves to give up/freeze when they are caught while humans tend to fight more til the end. Because wolves know in their heart you are right, they don't always have that passion that humans have. Humans KNOW YOU ARE WRONG AND REALLY WANT TO FIGHT TO PROVE THEY ARE RIGHT

idk, I just didn't see a lot of fight from Arp

I have mislynched using this logic like, countless times on this site

Originally Posted by the sun fan

on hopecaster?
he was probably the person I was most sure to be town. His work just felt incredibly genuine, in short, enough to override a straight contradiction in his response to me.

I mean you are both 100% correct on his alignment and also what the fuck though?

Originally Posted by the sun fan

what do you think about my comment about the time-stamp of it
arp sure gave up early, like
it literally feels like arp *was* trying to live with that post

Don't take this the wrong way Arp, but
I don't remember them being that kind of player and in the moment it felt like I barely had any time to change it (even though 4 minutes certainly is a lot of EOD time for this site)

Like if this was Round, you, Charu, AA, maybe even Leetic I would 100% probably come around to that theory but with Arp it feels too real to me

Originally Posted by Arp!

aaa today's a busy day,,, got some homework and another exam to study for
also wow i can't believe i'm still alive after all that. i really hope i have the time to redeem myself today but i'll have to see how long it takes me to get stuff done

Make time. You're the counter wagon to a flipped town so you are very much on the table and that "i guess I'll die now" ain't gonna to save you twice if your in the lead again. If youre really town, it's time for you to work for town

Originally Posted by Arp!

a little annoyed that nakah is still in the game. if they post today that'll make up for it in my eyes, but i would've probably wanted to vote for them had i known this would happen
i agree with leetic in that voting for them now would put us in a scary position if they flip town, so i don't really want to do that unless it's somehow the only viable option by EOD, which seems unlikely to me

Why do you think it's unlikely? I need you to expand your thoughts on this

What would your top 2 votes be if EOD was right now

Originally Posted by Arp!

sunfan getting a blueberry is interesting!
i assume a poisoned fruit can be sent to the malice wolf, so that doesn't entirely clear anyone who receives one?

That doesn't make a lick of sense. Even if you could ain't nobody in this game poisoning their teammates over one of us

Now what could be happening is that SunFan could be the vendor, not sent a fruit, and then claimed that he got it but there is no way SunFan is under enough pressure to fucking fake being poison for the cred. I think this 100% clears him

Originally Posted by the sun fan

the "bear any fruit" pun was unintentional

Don't disown your puns

Originally Posted by mellon_collie

When I called him out for forgetting about me, I thought "well maybe he skipped the first few pages and just skimmed the rest and that's why he forgot" and then he posts that same explanation. The way he explained trying to improve his meta made sense to me and seemed genuine (maybe because I am the same way with overthinking everything)

'k.

Originally Posted by the sun fan

Ngl lar, the hopecaster iso isn't really going to help me
I hope it helps you

It might. I need to finish it

I don't know if it has yet though

I don't know what else to do but vote Nakah and scream at Leetic though