TWG Turbo 37: Der Freischütz [GAME THREAD]

[leetic]

Originally Posted by Hateandhatred

Well I'm no longer wagoning sunfan unless someone counterclaims.

Well, if it's Haku or MML they can't counterclaim. Still not voting there today

[the sun fan]

im mostly in a reread
I'll post some more when we get a lot closer to EOD, maybe 15ish out

[Hateandhatred]

Originally Posted by Arapocalypse

Just because I disagree with you doesn't mean I don't still want you to have a good time; it's more fun to play with people who want to be here and are still enjoying themselves, after all!!

I do appreciate the effort you've put in, regardless of alignment!!!

Disagreeing is fine. I knew going in that y'all don't know haku like I do anyway. The issue is more like I was saying all this stuff and y'all were like "but no, bananas aren't blue, that's such a scummy thing to do". I'm obviously exaggerating but this isn't the first time this has happened to me in a game (host might recall one interaction in a game we played together where this exact situation happened), and yeah I know that I'm playing differently from others, but I feel like I'm being dismissed without being able to convey what I'm trying to say rather than being legitimately countered or acknowledged, and that's the painful part when I try hard to put up a good case.

That aside, thanks for the nice words =)

[the sun fan]

fwiw sven I thought about talking to you about hilda from 3h cuz her weapon is the freikugel or w/e but

I was too scared; some tryhards like leetic probably googled the freikugel and know about the 3h link

[Arapocalypse]

Originally Posted by the sun fan

alright I feel that town is desperate enough to where we need this
I am the Freikugel, I shot raeko last night
I can explain why I did it if people want; the tl;dr is not much different from the long version, but I was literally scumreading her ever since she was 5 posts in; her first interaction with roundbox was roundbox highlighting exactly what my problems with her posting were, and they never got better

I consider myself to be a good raeko reader, better than almost anyone, and I literally never once considered that she might be town, like it was as solid a scumread as I ever get from the first day and it included stuff that I had from before I had even told freezin that I could be a sub

I was stunned when she flipped town, truly

it hurt to reread her posts because I know she was just really happy to be playing again; she was probably the most hyped person to see werewolf actually start up on ffr

sorry raeko, I'm just old and washed

the shot count is one, thankfully, so I can shoot tonight and maybe something good will happen

anyways
get offa me

Hmm, okay then!!!!


...Unfortunately, given the circumstances/setup, it's not impossible you could be mafia fakeclaiming here; that being said, it is mechanically correct to not vote you off here!!

[the sun fan]

sven the chances of me joining you on haku are pretty low ngl
maybe it'll change by eod nbut probably not

[Hateandhatred]

Originally Posted by Arapocalypse

Hmm, okay then!!!!


...Unfortunately, given the circumstances/setup, it's not impossible you could be mafia fakeclaiming here; that being said, it is mechanically correct to not vote you off here!!

Yeah we're not not wagoning sunfan because mml and haku aren't here to counterclaim, that's silly. But again, using experience and stuff, he's not faking, I'm sure. mostly a gut feeling, but

[Hateandhatred]

Originally Posted by the sun fan

sven the chances of me joining you on haku are pretty low ngl
maybe it'll change by eod nbut probably not

I've exhausted my shit anyway. If nobody wants to do it, it's not like I can do it myself.

If we mislynch though, can you shoot him greg?

[the sun fan]

Originally Posted by Hakulyte

Nearly everyone tbh.

The only pile I'm less comfortable about is Ara, H&H and now bug because of that specific post.

As for leetic, I can at least agree that the posting style is how it is for NSM in general. Their forums are more role driven. So, at least that aspect of their play seems genuine to me.

ok normally haku does like sus everyone but here he's happy with nearly everyone quite early

ughhhhhhhhhh

sven I hate you I could've been ignorant to this possibility

[the sun fan]

Originally Posted by Hateandhatred

I've exhausted my shit anyway. If nobody wants to do it, it's not like I can do it myself.

If we mislynch though, can you shoot him greg?

I can't state my shot beforehand, just mechanically

[Hateandhatred]

also I'm exhausted too to be honest, I slept for 4 hours last night and kept waking up, and I'm struggling not to crash at this point

[Hateandhatred]

Originally Posted by the sun fan

ok normally haku does like sus everyone but here he's happy with nearly everyone quite early

ughhhhhhhhhh

sven I hate you I could've been ignorant to this possibility

I already covered that in my haku analysis. He's spend his time building town cred and opening all options. If I specifically wolfread him, it's a goated play

[Hateandhatred]

Originally Posted by the sun fan

I can't state my shot beforehand, just mechanically

You don't need to state it, I just had to say it.

[the sun fan]

I should look at roundbox's reads

[Arapocalypse]

Sorry, was just spending the last few minutes going down a mafia!sun fan fakeclaim rabbithole and debating whether or not I should try to keep some cover; I don't think that'd work though, since when it comes down to it I'd basically always just fakeclaim here anyway!!!

And if we vote wrong here + they have enough mechanical shenanigans to get sun fan through the night unscathed, then we just lose anyway and I accept that; not worth contemplating further, just typing this out to put it to rest in my brain!!!

Anyways, I don't think this necessarily changes much for me, regarding Haku/MixMasterLar? Leetic on the other hand... it might; I've been comtemplating a possible PR-or-mafia dichotomy for him with the way it felt like he was rolefishing a bit for the Freikugel earlier - like, was it seriously that unclear who the mafia nightkill was???

I always thought it was really obvious it was roundbox just from how they were playing in general, may or may not have mentioned this a bit;I've definitely held myself back multiple times because I was wondering if Leetic was the Freikugel and trying to trip up mafia to let slip some TMI, or something!!!

[Arapocalypse]

Originally Posted by the sun fan

fwiw sven I thought about talking to you about hilda from 3h cuz her weapon is the freikugel or w/e but

I was too scared; some tryhards like leetic probably googled the freikugel and know about the 3h link

This does assuage my doubts a bit, I suppose!!!


Just really finding it difficult to consider the rest of the game, at the moment; I feel like I'm just missing a really obvious link somewhere, bit irksome!!!!


...Feels like perhaps it's time to go skim through EoD 1, yet again!!!!

[leetic]

Originally Posted by Arapocalypse

Sorry, was just spending the last few minutes going down a mafia!sun fan fakeclaim rabbithole and debating whether or not I should try to keep some cover; I don't think that'd work though, since when it comes down to it I'd basically always just fakeclaim here anyway!!!

And if we vote wrong here + they have enough mechanical shenanigans to get sun fan through the night unscathed, then we just lose anyway and I accept that; not worth contemplating further, just typing this out to put it to rest in my brain!!!

Anyways, I don't think this necessarily changes much for me, regarding Haku/MixMasterLar? Leetic on the other hand... it might; I've been comtemplating a possible PR-or-mafia dichotomy for him with the way it felt like he was rolefishing a bit for the Freikugel earlier - like, was it seriously that unclear who the mafia nightkill was???

I always thought it was really obvious it was roundbox just from how they were playing in general, may or may not have mentioned this a bit;I've definitely held myself back multiple times because I was wondering if Leetic was the Freikugel and trying to trip up mafia to let slip some TMI, or something!!!

I mean, roundbox definitely made more sense, but some people were tinfoiling them at EoD and I've seen hero shots like that before, not to mention if sun fan was the Freikugel or a wolf be difficult to account for their thought process.

[the sun fan]

sven; roundbox's point on your d1 kinda makes me feel not as good about you

[Arapocalypse]

Unvote


Leetic, where are you at now in general? Also... I don't know, mechanics thoughts? Were you trying to do anything, with regards to you expressing uncertainty about which nightkill was which?

[Hateandhatred]

Originally Posted by Arapocalypse

I always thought it was really obvious it was roundbox just from how they were playing in general, may or may not have mentioned this a bit;I've definitely held myself back multiple times because I was wondering if Leetic was the Freikugel and trying to trip up mafia to let slip some TMI, or something!!!

I definitely wondered if you were, to be honest. You didn't counterclaim, so that locked sunfan in my eyes. As for you, it's why I was curious about your low ranking of Raeko in your eod stuff that you shared while including them despite them being solved. I figured you might think something we don't enough to kill her, but sunfan filled that exact question. It's also unlikely she was the night kill over roundbox because she was 50-50 to most as said before.

That *does* affect my reading of you, however. I kind of softed you as a blue when asked about my reading, but now I hate everyone for different reasons xD