TWG Turbo 37: Der Freischütz [GAME THREAD]

[leetic]

Originally Posted by Hateandhatred

God dammit fine

I honestly have no alignment tinfoilling this early in a game but I'll give it a shot. Here's just my voting thoughts in no particular order, just my thoughts out quickly so that we can discuss things

- raeko: it's a 50-50, could be good or bad and she's great at navigating the game very consistently, so at the very least it solves her.
- Haku: aside from a few great interactions, I'm definitely more used to haku having a really high postcount, especially on the weekend. I hate judging based on activity, but it's all we have this early.
- leetic: pushes seem shallow, but fairly reasonable. I'm not a big fan of him asking me to engage more without pressing me more with actual voting intent when most have me pretty high in their shitlist, so I'm very suspicious
- MML: Not voting MML today under any reasonable circumstance unless a slip happens
- rb: honestly same as MML, I feel good about his engagement
- bugkid: they are being pretty shaky here and there and I feel like I could flip on them at any time, but not my first pick
- ara: Probably my top pick at this moment. Not their fault, just process of elimination. Weiss aside, I'm probably most curious about them, but also they definitely come from another community.
- weiss: likely not voting themselves and we shouldn't lynch, definitely sucks if wolf, but at worst, it's a good pr nightkill

It's a bit weird that the two most consensus towns are your only strong convictions here

[mellon_collie]

Originally Posted by Hateandhatred

However, to my credit, I think everyone knows I actually do turn it on post d0 because I care about voting history a lot. I literally complain about this every single game I'm in.

From what I remember from playing with H&H in the past this is true, but idk if it's enough to give you a pass for today sorry ;_;

[bugkid666]

will be reading thread but not posting a lot probably. will most likely be keeping my vote on h&h. raeko jumping onto h&h makes me want to rank her down below leetic tbh but i'm not sure how to explain why that feels weird

[Hakulyte]

I'd rather solve Ara than H&H or Weiss if I had to pick.

Sure I have theories like MML could be wolfing and being opportunistic on that vote, but I also think I'm reaching incredibly far for that right now.

I'm only thinking that because the Ara -> Weiss vote move is reminding me of when I was playing wolf and constantly trying to buss my partner just to vote away from them at the last second (or don't move if I know no one will join me).

I think H&H will flip town here while trying to read his last post.

[Hakulyte]

When I said last post, I mean the one with quotes rather than the readlist.

The readlist is pmuch just echoing the game state and didn't change much.

[Hateandhatred]

Originally Posted by leetic

It's a bit weird that the two most consensus towns are your only strong convictions here

What does that even mean? My only strong conviction is that I don't want MML to die today and that the same applies to roundbox. I specifically said this is a voting thoughts list, not a reads list, I have no reads right now, and the best I can do about that is apologize

Calling anything here a "strong conviction" is a horrible misrepresentation of what I'm saying lol

Originally Posted by mellon_collie

From what I remember from playing with H&H in the past this is true, but idk if it's enough to give you a pass for today sorry ;_;

Honestly that's ok, I can't even tinfoil people for wanting to vote me because we need to vote someone out today no matter what

[Hateandhatred]

Originally Posted by bugkid666

will be reading thread but not posting a lot probably. will most likely be keeping my vote on h&h. raeko jumping onto h&h makes me want to rank her down below leetic tbh but i'm not sure how to explain why that feels weird

Oh come on, I just pointed out that you ranking raeko your top town is the weirdest shit, and now you say this?

unvote

bugkid666

[mellon_collie]

Originally Posted by Hakulyte

I'd rather solve Ara than H&H or Weiss if I had to pick.

Sure I have theories like MML could be wolfing and being opportunistic on that vote, but I also think I'm reaching incredibly far for that right now.

I'm only thinking that because the Ara -> Weiss vote move is reminding me of when I was playing wolf and constantly trying to buss my partner just to vote away from them at the last second (or don't move if I know no one will join me).

I think H&H will flip town here while trying to read his last post.

I'm having a hard time reading Ara but nothing about them is super screaming wolf

[Hakulyte]

Originally Posted by mellon_collie

I'm having a hard time reading Ara but nothing about them is super screaming wolf

I feel like I don't understand what they think and that it's happening intentionally.

[Hateandhatred]

Also, I asked earlier and nobody answered, possibly lost in the wall, but

who here is from other communities?

[Arapocalypse]

Originally Posted by Hateandhatred

God dammit fine

I honestly have no alignment tinfoilling this early in a game but I'll give it a shot. Here's just my voting thoughts in no particular order, just my thoughts out quickly so that we can discuss things

- raeko: it's a 50-50, could be good or bad and she's great at navigating the game very consistently, so at the very least it solves her.
- Haku: aside from a few great interactions, I'm definitely more used to haku having a really high postcount, especially on the weekend. I hate judging based on activity, but it's all we have this early.
- leetic: pushes seem shallow, but fairly reasonable. I'm not a big fan of him asking me to engage more without pressing me more with actual voting intent when most have me pretty high in their shitlist, so I'm very suspicious
- MML: Not voting MML today under any reasonable circumstance unless a slip happens
- rb: honestly same as MML, I feel good about his engagement
- bugkid: they are being pretty shaky here and there and I feel like I could flip on them at any time, but not my first pick
- ara: Probably my top pick at this moment. Not their fault, just process of elimination. Weiss aside, I'm probably most curious about them, but also they definitely come from another community.
- weiss: likely not voting themselves and we shouldn't lynch, definitely sucks if wolf, but at worst, it's a good pr nightkill

Just sorting this with my titles, for my personal ease of reading:


(Towny?)

- MML: Not voting MML today under any reasonable circumstance unless a slip happens
- rb: honestly same as MML, I feel good about his engagement
- Haku: aside from a few great interactions, I'm definitely more used to haku having a really high postcount, especially on the weekend. I hate judging based on activity, but it's all we have this early.


(Shrug)

- raeko: it's a 50-50, could be good or bad and she's great at navigating the game very consistently, so at the very least it solves her.
- bugkid: they are being pretty shaky here and there and I feel like I could flip on them at any time, but not my first pick
- leetic: pushes seem shallow, but fairly reasonable. I'm not a big fan of him asking me to engage more without pressing me more with actual voting intent when most have me pretty high in their shitlist, so I'm very suspicious
- weiss: likely not voting themselves and we shouldn't lynch, definitely sucks if wolf, but at worst, it's a good pr nightkill



(Want to vote)


- ara: Probably my top pick at this moment. Not their fault, just process of elimination. Weiss aside, I'm probably most curious about them, but also they definitely come from another community.




Main concern is that there isn't actual suspicion here? The only person in the bottom tier is me, and they've voiced stuff about townreading some of what I've said anyway, so ??? Also, what does my coming from another community have to do with putting me in this tier?


Yes you've mentioned it being d0 a few times, but... still!!!

[leetic]

Originally Posted by Hateandhatred

Also, I asked earlier and nobody answered, possibly lost in the wall, but

who here is from other communities?

Ara and Weiss are both MU players, while I am an NSM player

[Arapocalypse]

Originally Posted by Hakulyte

I feel like I don't understand what they think and that it's happening intentionally.

Is there anything in particular that you don't understand/want to ask me about?


I feel like I've been fairly transparent in my thoughts so far, and would be happy to explain anything you're curious about!!!!

[Hakulyte]

Posts are like a mix of questions being asked openly, commentary and giving general stances where others have to fill the void. It's done in such a way that I can't understand the progression because it's always open-ended.

[Hakulyte]

@arapocalypse

I feel like I don't know what you want in this game.

[Arapocalypse]

Originally Posted by Hateandhatred

Also, I asked earlier and nobody answered, possibly lost in the wall, but

who here is from other communities?

I saw the signup post from MU, though my home community is a very very small community; smaller than here, even!!!


(We actually just had the biggest game we've had in years last week, which had 11 players!!)

[Arapocalypse]

Originally Posted by mellon_collie

I don't want to vote for Weiss and want to take my vote off them and put it onto Hate, will do so closer to EOD probably once Lar gets back

I don't love Lar's push on Weiss now that we know they might take a random town with them if they die. However it does fit along with Lar's general hatred for inactives and I don't see it as necessarily wolfy coming from him, even if I think it's the wrong play

I still have a town lean on leetic

maybe I would look at Bug or roundbox? Bug for their potential slip. I totally get the brain fart thing, it's just super weird to have the specific brain fart of turning "town" into "wolf" when describing your own role idk... it's so silly and simple but maybe that is just it

roundbox for potential Bug connection and also I feel like he's made a few "easy" reads

Haku is also taking more of a back seat than I am used to and it does make me go hmmmm a little bit. Usually Haku would be posting a bunch of ideas and theories but it seemed like they were willing to accept things at face value which goes against how Haku usually plays very paranoid and thinking of lots of crazy potential worlds


But I really think Hate is the better option today

Interesting, what sort of "easy" reads do you think roundbox has made?



Hmm, okay... good to know, regarding Haku!!! Would you consider the Bug "slip" to be a bit of a crazy potential world?

[Hateandhatred]

Originally Posted by Arapocalypse

Main concern is that there isn't actual suspicion here? The only person in the bottom tier is me, and they've voiced stuff about townreading some of what I've said anyway, so ??? Also, what does my coming from another community have to do with putting me in this tier?


Yes you've mentioned it being d0 a few times, but... still!!!

It's because I legitimately had no real suspicion of anything, and even though y'all are asking for it, this is the one time so far where I'm literally voicing thoughts solely because I'm being asked to. Yes, it's d0 and it's all I have to say about it, but I feel like that's just reasonable lol.

I also said you did nothing wrong either. I thought I was ok for you to go first, but there was basically nothing behind it. It just had to be someone, y'know?

Again, it's d0. Usually this phase is a warmup shitpost session at least in my experience, but somehow it got real this time around and I have no idea how to engage with it. I'm very sorry I have nothing better to say, but that's just how it is.

I did try to prod around on things I wanted to engage with in my wallposts, but very few entertained me until now, so you can't blame only me in all this. And then bugkid came around and switched for very little reason on the thing I tried to prod him on when replying to their reads list, and that actually gave me incentive to react with an actual lean for the first time since the game started

[Hateandhatred]

As for you or others being from other communities, it's not really indicative of anything, it's just information I'd like to keep in mind throughout the game. I'm used to the way some of the people here play, but I figured I should know where people come from and if any of them come from different communities. I'm not a very big TWG player at all with like 20 games under my belt, but from what I understand, FFR has a pretty unique TWG culture, and it's the only one I know.

For instance, we allow one deathpost per game, and apparently that's not a thing anywhere else. So yeah, I do think it's nice to know.

[bugkid666]

Originally Posted by Hateandhatred

Oh come on, I just pointed out that you ranking raeko your top town is the weirdest shit, and now you say this?

unvote

bugkid666

wow i cant believe someone can change their mind after being given new information, unbelievable