TWG 203 Werewolves in Avalon GAME THREAD

[roundbox]

and with that, the only person whose vote I didn't track was raeko's
let's take a looksie

Originally Posted by mellon_collie

How can you simply not see how anyone is justified in saying otherwise? Everyone else has completely different information than you and therefore a different perspective on the game? This is so narrow-minded. Think about it from everyone else's perspective

It makes sense to want to solve your suspicions. It doesn't make sense to not see how other people are justified in questioning your reads. We are playing too


No it isn't? I had FFA on ignore for like a year when I kept getting baited into arguing with him in games

raeko calls out MML's tunnel a bit, siding with manti saying that MML's votes were based on "people that I agree with"

Originally Posted by mellon_collie

They are contradictions from your perspective

From our perspective we don't know if you are a wolf

We would be pretty fucking poor players if we all just went "oh yes, Lar found a contradiction!" and blindly followed you

raeko doesn't seem to want to follow MML, and I'm assuming these are about a disagreement about the contradiction MML found with Manti's posting.

Originally Posted by mellon_collie

I think I agree Manti/MML is best to resolve today

in a later post, raeko mentions she wants to solve manti/MML, but at this point, it looked like she was maybe floating MML, but she never called MML scum in her posts, so I can't say this for certain

Originally Posted by mellon_collie

My dude you changed your vote within like less than 10 seconds of the phase ending, maybe we could go just a BIT slower than that

raeko's first direct call out of manti is about 2 hours from EOD last phase.

Originally Posted by mellon_collie

Manti's EOD was super annoying and chaotic, Lar has been very annoying today with his tunnel and stubborn-ness, I don't think they are W/W but they both seem weird which is what is throwing me off about that entire situation

conversely to me, raeko seemed to see the situation as being closer to w/w I guess. this assumption means MML/Manti were wolf theater, which is uh, well, unlikely I think.

Originally Posted by mellon_collie

What's insta?

I wanna resolve between Lar/Manti and I think I wanna go for Manti but I don't wanna insta

her last post relating to Manti is this one, indicating that she wants manti instead. Manti was at 4 votes when this post was made, so it feels like a possible setup for voting manti. she withholds her vote afterwards.

I would put this behavior in with jub3r7 and Charu.

[Charu]

Originally Posted by mellon_collie

bugkid just gave very similar reasoning for suspecting me so I meant piggybacking off bug's read

??????

[bugkid666]

Originally Posted by bugkid666

if mml [OR CHARU] is wolf i'll eat my shoe

if both mml and charu were on board to lynch rb, i would comply. but it seems that me and charu have a similar mindset whereas mml will have to take some convincing to stop tunneling rb.

i think it comes down to difference of opinion. you decided he was sus and then assumed we'd all feel free to lynch him because you said so. i'm not saying your opinion doesn't have merit, i just don't see it as much as you do. (and clearly charu doesn't either)

[roundbox]

here's where I'm at:

Townly
MML

Pretty townly
bug

Probably town but has done some interesting things
WV

Spooky
raeko
jub3r7
Charu

this list is in descending order, and in case you're wondering how I got my reads, READ MY POSTS OK

[mellon_collie]

Originally Posted by Charu

??????

You voted for me after they did and you used very similar reasoning, I'm not sure how to explain it much further than that

[bugkid666]

Originally Posted by bugkid666

if both mml and charu were on board to lynch rb, i would comply. but it seems that me and charu have a similar mindset whereas mml will have to take some convincing to stop tunneling rb.

i think it comes down to difference of opinion. you decided he was sus and then assumed we'd all feel free to lynch him because you said so. i'm not saying your opinion doesn't have merit, i just don't see it as much as you do. (and clearly charu doesn't either)

this "you" was referring to mml btw

[MixMasterLar]

If I assumed anything I assumed town wouldn't just look at my conclusions and think I just want them to follow me. I cited posts, I gave reasons, I laid out a timeline that illustrates what I'm saying. This notion I decided to randomly sus someone and just expect town to take my word for it is some made up fairytell horseshit

Vote whoever you want

[Charu]

Originally Posted by roundbox

here's where I'm at:

Townly
MML

Pretty townly
bug

Probably town but has done some interesting things
WV

Spooky
raeko
jub3r7
Charu

this list is in descending order, and in case you're wondering how I got my reads, READ MY POSTS OK

I'm the spookiest then?

Wow, okay. Love you too

[MixMasterLar]

Don't wait last second Roundbox --- who's getting your vote?

[Charu]

Originally Posted by mellon_collie

You voted for me after they did and you used very similar reasoning, I'm not sure how to explain it much further than that

???

Bug mentioned something completely different...

I mentioned your remark about roundbox and waiting to see him finish.

His was more about you asking about night kills.

[roundbox]

Originally Posted by Charu

Anyways, to answer some of rounds stuff.

My suspicion of Wayward was mostly his style of posts that was skirting the joke/serious realm. I didn't know if he meant some things or was just being a goober.

My vote on Raeko wasn't even because I thought she was suspect. I literally wanted to see what the thread hive mind had to say if they saw a potential wagon on her. It wasn't me throwing a vote for the lulz.

Speaking of, I really don't jive with her stating she's gonna wait and see you do these vote analysis. That made me instantly go "huh" because I thought she didn't suspect you. It's not until this phase she does anyways.

thanks for clarifying on WV here

I still think your justification of the raeko vote makes me woozy, though. I know you didn't find her as a suspect, so I'm just trying to understand why you went so far as to vote her instead of just saying, "Hey, who is down for a raeko vote?" you postured suspicion on jub3r7 without voting him, so what was the difference between him and raeko that made you vote raeko instead?
did you throw out a vote because it's a much more noticeable post than just asking "what do you think about a raeko wagon?"?

I'm here to hear more from raeko too. I know that she's seen me manufacture tower posts as a wolf, so I'm not too weirded out about her reaction, but I agree with you Charu that it was pretty immediate. if I could, I'd vote you, jub3r7, and raeko and the same time.

since he's not here, let's see if some magic can summon jub3r7

[mellon_collie]

Originally Posted by Charu

???

Bug mentioned something completely different...

I mentioned your remark about roundbox and waiting to see him finish.

His was more about you asking about night kills.

Bug and Lar were also discussing that post, and Bug's read of it, a few posts above where you made your post.

Anyways what is this post?

Originally Posted by Jub3r7

I'm not new to TWG btw. If I were a wolf... I'd probably leave it to my partners to choose the lynch, or maybe keep the merlins alive so they potentially slip more information and kill someone outside the list of five names. Which to me sounds slightly counterintuitive since Merlins actually know the identity of the wolves

And Jub's entire entrance today was quite weird

[bugkid666]

Originally Posted by MixMasterLar

If I assumed anything I assumed town wouldn't just look at my conclusions and think I just want them to follow me. I cited posts, I gave reasons, I laid out a timeline that illustrates what I'm saying. This notion I decided to randomly sus someone and just expect town to take my word for it is some made up fairytell horseshit

Vote whoever you want

i did not say this, do not put words in my mouth.

i read your posts and quite honestly i got much more insight out of roundbox's. albeit, i do disagree with rb's conclusion of charu.

[MixMasterLar]

Originally Posted by mellon_collie

Bug and Lar were also discussing that post, and Bug's read of it, a few posts above where you made your post.

Anyways what is this post?


And Jub's entire entrance today was quite weird

How was it weird compared to the rest of their post?

[roundbox]

Originally Posted by Charu

I'm the spookiest then?

Wow, okay. Love you too

I almost put you and jub3r7 on the same line, but I will say that at this point in time, I feel the last 2 wolves are in you/raeko/jub3r7

[mellon_collie]

Originally Posted by roundbox

thanks for clarifying on WV here

I still think your justification of the raeko vote makes me woozy, though. I know you didn't find her as a suspect, so I'm just trying to understand why you went so far as to vote her instead of just saying, "Hey, who is down for a raeko vote?" you postured suspicion on jub3r7 without voting him, so what was the difference between him and raeko that made you vote raeko instead?
did you throw out a vote because it's a much more noticeable post than just asking "what do you think about a raeko wagon?"?

I'm here to hear more from raeko too. I know that she's seen me manufacture tower posts as a wolf, so I'm not too weirded out about her reaction, but I agree with you Charu that it was pretty immediate. if I could, I'd vote you, jub3r7, and raeko and the same time.

since he's not here, let's see if some magic can summon jub3r7

roundbox I disagree with a lot of this post but I agree with the conclusion

I don't wanna get burned but Jub not being here at EOD again maybe I was just right on D1

[bugkid666]

Originally Posted by roundbox

thanks for clarifying on WV here

I still think your justification of the raeko vote makes me woozy, though. I know you didn't find her as a suspect, so I'm just trying to understand why you went so far as to vote her instead of just saying, "Hey, who is down for a raeko vote?" you postured suspicion on jub3r7 without voting him, so what was the difference between him and raeko that made you vote raeko instead?
did you throw out a vote because it's a much more noticeable post than just asking "what do you think about a raeko wagon?"?

I'm here to hear more from raeko too. I know that she's seen me manufacture tower posts as a wolf, so I'm not too weirded out about her reaction, but I agree with you Charu that it was pretty immediate. if I could, I'd vote you, jub3r7, and raeko and the same time.

since he's not here, let's see if some magic can summon jub3r7

i do not hate this

[MixMasterLar]

Originally Posted by bugkid666

i did not say this, do not put words in my mouth.
.

Originally Posted by bugkid666

. you decided he was sus and then assumed we'd all feel free to lynch him because you said so.

Oh look, you did

[MixMasterLar]

You literally just fucking said that though

[roundbox]

Originally Posted by mellon_collie

roundbox I disagree with a lot of this post but I agree with the conclusion

I don't wanna get burned but Jub not being here at EOD again maybe I was just right on D1

can you be more specific about what you disagree with