TWG CLXIV: Classics Man - Game Thread

[inDheart]

Votes from post 5 to post 1440
Night in 7:55:41
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• Votes -- Lynch -- Voters
• 2 -- TWG Jade Harley -- Charu (206), Prophylaxis (33)
• 1 -- mellonxcollie -- ShadoWolfe (180)
• 1 -- Hakulyte -- XelNya (79)
• 1 -- Witch of Certainty -- AragakiAyase (177)
• 1 -- ShadoWolfe -- Hakulyte (177)
• 1 -- Charu -- DaBackpack (124)
• 3 -- unvote -- thesunfan (137), Witch of Certainty (51), MixMasterLar (121)
• 3 -- not voting -- mellonxcollie (57), roundbox (38), TWG Jade Harley (52)

[MixMasterLar]

Whenever people respond to people within a quote it makes me realize that the world will never truly be rid of evil

[Prophylaxis]

Originally Posted by xelNya

You saying you've seen "nothing" is a sign you haven't paid attention. I've made it a point to specifically name two players into my town pile. It may have come off as sarcasm, I understand that very well given how I tend to post in general, but I dunno. My vote on Charu is as you've said not serious. I also just realized as I was double checking I said shado was in my town pile twice.

There are 1500 posts in this game and I have to spend a couple of hours each day to catch up and read through posts. Forgive me for dismissing your posts as "nothing", it's just that, when I read through the thread, your posts haven't really made much impression on my brain, and I want to fix that.

Unfortunate that Jade Harley's post got ate up; was looking forward to interacting with them but I'll keep reading on to see if they provide original thoughts.

I like 1202.. kind of tonally? Jade is interested in interacting with Xel like I am and is giving him a chance to do so.

Jade Harley: Why are you are asking questions other people have already asked? I could swear that MML already asked WoC about the backpack read earlier in the thread, and:

Originally Posted by TWG Jade Harley

whos your strongest townlean and scumlean today so far??

..was already pretty much answered in this post:

Originally Posted by Witch of Certainty

State of my thoughts in no real order:
Charu is a town lean since I agree with/like (almost) everything he's pointed out so far and I get a sense of genuine town interest.

I like Backpack's content, as well as his responding to my question eariler by trying to bring up something specific to discuss (as I understood) , so he gets a solid town lean.

sunfan/AA look town from genuine-seeming work to figure things out.

Haku strikes me as showing a good deal of genuine town intent as well.

Shado is a town lean, I don't think a wolf risks attention and/or votes by getting into a fight like that.

A (slighter) lean goes to mellon for the aggressiveness on her end, however.

MML pushed the "UTR mellon" issue a little too much for my taste, but that's null. Un-wolfish level of aggressiveness as well. Pressuring someone into posting then criticizing them for being defensive and not really having anything to add is bad, however.

I like Proph's thoughts just now.

All others null.

Other notes:
To clarify the Backpack read, the purpose of that question was not an attempt at focusing the discussion (because bringing things out of RVS/shitpost mode is far from my strong suit) but to prompt others to bring up how and with what they would, and Backpack gave the best answer (not "someone will make a vote and content will happen" or an attempt to analyze me, but attempting to raise a topic for general discussion (whether those who hadn't spoken yet were suspicious for it or not), regardless of whether it got anywhere.

AA seems to be starting to tunnel Shado about the mellon issue.

@AragakiAyase#700 How/Why did Charu quoting my post and his reply lead you to see there wasn't any follow up when you apparently didn't before?

@thesunfan Your vote is still on XelNya. Is it still the meta read? Further/Other reasons? Just waiting for something else (more) worth voting to come up? Should I sheep you now? Or then?

I find it concerning as well that you said that Xel/Charu are your strongest scumreads, but your vote isn't on either of them. Why is that?

Originally Posted by Haku

5. Prophylaxis <- Town (based on activity)

I've been one of the least active players so far. Why are you townreading me based on activity of all things?

[AragakiAyase]

this distinction between "reads" and "leans" is tilting me off the face of the earth

[ShadoWolfe]

Originally Posted by MixMasterLar

K

That major one concerning how you handled the Raeko case.

Oh. Eh, nothing I can do about your perception of that.

Originally Posted by MixMasterLar

Didn't you vote for him at one point over that contradiction or am I misremembering?

You're misremembering. That was AA who voted him.

Originally Posted by MixMasterLar

He flat out said he wasn't feeling the game at one point this isn't up for debate. I called him out for it and he was basically like "yep"

I remember you saying something along the lines of saying he's taking an observational back seat like town Charu sometimes does, and he just went "yep".

Originally Posted by MixMasterLar

Even if he didn't, you can tell Charu isn't really trying that hard when he resorts to gifs and purely reaction posts. He did say he'll try again today IIRC, and that's good but he just hasn't gotten here yet I don't think. We'll see

Not how I read Charu, but ok.

Originally Posted by MixMasterLar

Explained this more then once already. Tone, ease of how he was telling jokes and lack of tryhardy posts.

Haku's like the easiest person here to read and has done more then enough for me to give a d0 pass to.

I disagree with this last point especially. He kicked your ass in the lone wolf game, despite me and dadcop literally begging you to vote him. Don't underestimate him as a wolf.

[Charu]

Hey fam

My Windows is taking a big fucking shit so I can't do much of anything right now.

Apparently it's been doing this "Replacing invalid security id with defualt security id" for a good chunk of time now. (And looking through google is making me very worried about what it could mean)

I'll attempt reading, but I'm way more concern of my pc's well being atm than I am with this game.

...

Also typing with the Wii-U GAMEPAD SUCKS

[Charu]

I already see a lot of text though... and pages I missed.

...ugh

[thesunfan]

Originally Posted by Witch of Certainty

as per repeated statements and explanations, I have no townreads
strongest leans are you/Backpack/AA (pending AA's final answer[s] to being questioned about the Xel read)

which one is strongest aside from me, the lean on backpack or the lean on AA?

[XelNya]

Originally Posted by Prophylaxis

There are 1500 posts in this game and I have to spend a couple of hours each day to catch up and read through posts. Forgive me for dismissing your posts as "nothing", it's just that, when I read through the thread, your posts haven't really made much impression on my brain, and I want to fix that.

To be fair I also stated misinformation there, and was generally being a cunt.

I had only stated one town read (twice) because apparently I'm a dumb ass

[AragakiAyase]

charu just sheep me ez

[XelNya]

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

this distinction between "reads" and "leans" is tilting me off the face of the earth

does it tilt you, or just lean you in a direction of anger

[ShadoWolfe]

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

I also think it's pretty right



1st point: isn't he saying he likes our interactions? why are you then asking what he doesn't like?

No, he said he didn't like my side of the "AA/Shado interaction". Singular. I asked which one, and why he doesn't like it.

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

2nd point: it would make sense if he's referring to how you suddenly called him out on a contradiction and now seem to be ok with it.

No. He thought I voted him, and then we were suddenly cool.

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

3rd point: charu has said multiple times he's not feeling this game/doesn't have energy

Ok.

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

4th point: valid, but that doesn't really suggest that he's wrong, that just asks for more reasoning

Yes, and?

What were you hoping to accomplish with this post, AA? Because it's awfully wrong.

[Witch of Certainty]

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

witch I'm not sure how much of my dislike for you this game is because of your playstyle, so I'm erring on the side of caution here

but the fact that you have no suspicions at all is a huge red flag for me

how about how I'm pushing on you? does that not make you suspicious *at all*? how about the fact that I'm pushing xel but I don't have a "concrete case"? that also doesn't make you suspicious at all? You seem to take issue with it because supposedly to vote someone you need to have a concrete case, but it's not suspicious? then what is it?

okay

no, because pushing what you find suspicious and explaining your thoughts is town behavior, I'd be more suspicious if you seemed to turn back too easily.
also, my point was that I feel it should be that way and follow that, but if someone else doesn't, I can still feel/read that they're town for other things/reasons. So it's not suspicious alone in general, and all I'd want now is your answering the questions on your read, which you are doing.

[XelNya]

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

charu just sheep me ez

[Charu]

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

charu just sheep me ez

Sure, what's up?

[DaBackpack]

Originally Posted by thesunfan

nah, its a me problem
I don't really think its a result of the shitposting, I kinda don't wanna get into it, because its mostly irrelevant

this is going to come off really weak but this kinda strikes me as a towny thing to say

[ShadoWolfe]

Originally Posted by Hakulyte

Yo think a second.

I only have 2 wolf wins in this entire forum.

1. Turbo IV with Charu where I die early on and Charu wins alone.
2. Egregious Miscalculations where everyone is technically a serial killer instead of a wolf.

I fail miserably in every other wolf games.

It's very simple, I'm not "this" confident ever as a wolf.
It's not "omg you could do it", it's literally "it never happened".

...ISOSAVE... <-- for my own reference

This just screams wolf trying to build a meta defense for himself. I guess I could maybe see town Haku writing this, but I don't think that's likely.

[MixMasterLar]

Shado if I'm misremembering who voted who then fair enough but you where on him about that for awhile and the explanation that got you off him was pretty weak IMO. I don't know what you are going on about to be honest and I feel my point still stands


I have people wanting for me in OW so I'm out for real.

although this

Originally Posted by XelNya

does it tilt you, or just lean you in a direction of anger

is the best post in thread rn

[DaBackpack]

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

this distinction between "reads" and "leans" is tilting me off the face of the earth

my opinion wasn't asked for on this but if it helps us move past this point, I agree with AA that there's no real meaningful difference between these terms

at least, not on this forum

[Prophylaxis]

Originally Posted by XelNya

I don't comprehend Haku's town read, especially not even at least slightly considering doubting it considering the opportunistic nature of that post about shado and I. It wasn't exactly not in the public know that I like shado this game. Our back and forth was actually one of the more heated ones because I'm an ass hole.

Explain to me why you're exactly scumreading Haku? I reread your posts on page 16 but all I saw was that you said that you voted Haku because it's "obvious" but, at the risk of sounding dumb, I don't really understand it.

Originally Posted by Sunfan

i'm running into the age old problem of having too many townreads on d0

Who do you not want to lynch for Day 1 as opposed to who you /would/ lynch?

I feel you though, there are just so many people who are just vaguely town to me and I'm worried about being pocketed because the last game I had that was like this, two scum were in my "strong townreads" list and other townies needed to help me re-evaluate. (We ended up losing that game to a frickin Godfather that was cop-checked, but I'll save that for another time).

I like how you re-evaluated on Xel though? Feels non-agenda-y.