TWG CLXIV: Classics Man - Game Thread

[Hakulyte]

I'm going to lure raeko, don't distract me plz.

[thesunfan]

Shado
I don't know his reads are good
I like his reads, so I called them good
please dude

[Prophylaxis]

vv:
v: aa, charu, roundbox, mellon, haku?
n: mml, woc, sunfan, dbp, shadow
w: xelnya, jade

WHY ARE MY TOWNREADS SO SQUISHY.

I literally have no strong townreads.

This is concerning.

Gonna spend some time tomorrow to solidify them. I had roundbox as my most solid town read before but I've seen zero posts from him since then.

[Hakulyte]

If you have roundbox anywhere else than null, I dont understand why.

[AragakiAyase]

Originally Posted by thesunfan

my language is memeworthy to the point where I'm rather sure AA could impersonate me in an anon game and have everyone believe that he is me

fwiw I think that in spite of x, y holds
I don't think that x is a wolf but if he were lynched I wouldn't cry about it
x is doing exactly what I expect him to do as town/wolf right now

[AragakiAyase]

you haven't used friend recently though

[ShadoWolfe]

Originally Posted by thesunfan

fwiw I don't think that the stuff he underlined aside from one line I said about you is at all noncommital for me, its just how I've posted for the past eternity, which is why I have not the easiest time believing that he believes what he laid out there

Underlined = "Lack of specificity", meaning you weren't specifically addressing anything someone did while still reading the person for it.

That's not how you've posted for the past eternity.
thesunfan I know calls out specific little things people do and how they relate to the bigger picture of their alignment.

[ShadoWolfe]

Originally Posted by thesunfan

Shado
I don't know his reads are good
I like his reads, so I called them good
please dude

Yeah I got it when I just read your first one saying you didn't mean "right".

I assumed you were talking about accuracy. My bad.

[MixMasterLar]

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

fwiw I think that in spite of x, y holds
I don't think that x is a wolf but if he were lynched I wouldn't cry about it
x is doing exactly what I expect him to do as town/wolf right now

I laughed

Originally Posted by Hakulyte

If you have roundbox anywhere else than null, I dont understand why.

I feel he gets a town lean if for no other reason he seemed really good at the start and everyone seems to agree. It's also not out of character for him to be gone long stretches before popping in close to EoD.

But null does seem more fair

[thesunfan]

you forgot to emphasize something with /slash marks/ but other than that you did ok

[Hakulyte]

Actually, I just iso'd roundbox and I have no problem with him being town even if he wasn't here as much to this point.

[AragakiAyase]

one more thought, not a huge fan of how witch seems more inclined to be reactive as opposed to proactive in terms of solving

we'll see I guess

now I have things to attend to, good night

this is one of those things

this is another one of those things

[thesunfan]

witch asked me about my xel vote

I feel pretty "meh" about xel, and haven't felt otherwise

feeling "meh" about xel for long periods of time generally means he's not town

[ShadoWolfe]

Originally Posted by MixMasterLar

Wait


Her first few posts where directly at me when I called her and used the term policy lynch.

She made it very clear

How are you saying you didn't now I did that until AA went through the timeline? Did you completely ignore her posts the first time aroud?



Shado

LOL!

Do you comprehend numbers?

You said I went after Raeko when you were doing it and it was easy because she wasn't there. I don't know if this was your reasoning for doing so, but it wasn't mine.
#382 is when I said "and mellonxcollie"
her response was towards everyone mentioning her absence, she mentioned me specifically in it. I assumed I was the first to bring up her absence until AA mentioned that the timeline had you first. I didn't know your first post on the topic beat mine by 60 posts. I knew you had posted about her, I just didn't know when, or that it came before mine.
Does that make sense to you?

[Prophylaxis]

Originally Posted by shadoWolfe

I kept sunfan as my top scum throughout my vote on mellon. If you didn't catch it, I wasn't voting her for being automatically a wolf, I was voting her because she's notoriously good at staying UTR, intercepting pressure on her, talking her way out of it, and then going UTR again. Rinse, repeat to F3 and you have basically summarized her games in CLIX and FE. I wanted to prevent that, but I may have made it worse if she ends up flipping scum.

OK, I see your point here. You're just trying to make sure that scum!mellon doesn't go unnoticed, and you're drawing attention to her.

Originally Posted by shadoWolfe

How do you want me to clarify them? I've written a good amount on either, although I'm not so sure mellon is scum. Have you read anything about why I voted her?
As for whether they can be scum together, I think that's an absolute yes.

I've literally spent an hour catching up, providing my thoughts, etc. I meant clarify in the sense that "can you think about the game as if sunfan/mellon being scumbuddies make sense".

Originally Posted by shadoWolfe

DBP for his continuously good posts from a seemingly scumhunting perspective when he was catching up

Quote these "good posts" and explain how they come from a town mindset.

[Witch of Certainty]

Originally Posted by MixMasterLar

I think what I dislike about it the most is that there are no scum reads and I honestly would expect everyone to have some level of speculation.

Anyway let me ask---



---what do you like about his content the most? what noteworthy post did he make?

I'm not sorry that I dislike plain speculation.

Have a few:

Originally Posted by DaBackpack

I don't necessarily disagree with what he's saying, but his insistence on dropping my meta feels like an appeal to me, or maybe a pocket attempt

Originally Posted by DaBackpack

i'm gonna say that you can still detect w/w pairings even with daychat on because certain interactions will still feel forced, even if both parties are fully aware of the charade

that said, looking at w/w is kind of useless at this stage, unless it's like glaring, better wait until we have flips for that kind of analysis

Originally Posted by DaBackpack

I feel like we're more or less going in circle w/r/t raeko

do you have any thoughts on the game so far raeko?

Originally Posted by MixMasterLar

Can you share your favorite game-related Charu posts for me? Or at least tell me what they said if you're pressed for time.

Quoting them would be awesome though

Originally Posted by Charu

So sorry that I don't share your views then. I see nothing wrong when he made those actions. If anything, that's him blundering around as he usually does. But in a more relaxed matter.

Factor in the 24/7 wolf chat and I don't see haku being told to act like this at all. It's very dangerous for a wolf, especially one that's susceptible for exploding when pressured.

Originally Posted by Charu

Question, what are you trying to achieve by reading Haku's wolfgames?

I don't understand why you're even bringing that up right now. Do you share discomfort with his posting this game?

Originally Posted by Charu

Let me just quote this cute thing again.



Pairings are irrelevant in this setup unless you strongly believe they're trying to make each other good or trying to make each other look like shit.

I want chronological ISO really badly right now.

[ShadoWolfe]

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

one more thought, not a huge fan of how witch seems more inclined to be reactive as opposed to proactive in terms of solving

we'll see I guess

now I have things to attend to, good night

this is one of those things

this is another one of those things

...have fun!

[AragakiAyase]

Originally Posted by ShadoWolfe

...have fun!

if this came as a surprise to you, you never understood my user title

now you do (maybe)

[Prophylaxis]

...wait.

Am I and MML asking shadoW and WoC respectively to ask why they have a townread on dbp?

If that's the case then, lol. That's hilarious.

[MixMasterLar]

Originally Posted by ShadoWolfe

LOL!

Do you comprehend numbers?

You said I went after Raeko when you were doing it and it was easy because she wasn't there. I don't know if this was your reasoning for doing so, but it wasn't mine.
#382 is when I said "and mellonxcollie"
her response was towards everyone mentioning her absence, she mentioned me specifically in it. I assumed I was the first to bring up her absence until AA mentioned that the timeline had you first. I didn't know your first post on the topic beat mine by 60 posts. I knew you had posted about her, I just didn't know when, or that it came before mine.
Does that make sense to you?

I was thinking about the time you actually voted, but looking back I think you voted before I actually went ham. In my mind it was after because I was playing catch up at the time.

So fair enough I suppose. Unvote