TWG CLXIV: Classics Man - Game Thread

[DaBackpack]

Originally Posted by thesunfan

yeah but, why would I be joking?
I guess it doesn't matter very much but I didn't quite understand

people had speculated about it before and I wasn't sure if you actually knew the answer or not

[AragakiAyase]

Originally Posted by MixMasterLar

How do you feel about her play now? She's still being defensive with a few dabs of general reads that don't really stick out to me.

She is posting more though so that's a positive

I think her play right now is fairly null

in terms of reactions to people scumreading her, I would give it a slight town lean (slight being the key word), but I think her content so far has been like you said, fairly general and needs some work. general isn't a huge red flag here because she feels genuine enough, but specifics are good

[AragakiAyase]

also idgaf if people aren't into w/w analysis right now, I think shado/mellon are almost never w/w

similarly with mml/mellon, but to a lesser extent

[mellonxcollie]

Originally Posted by thesunfan

what do you expect from wolf AA and how different is it from your town expectations in your opinion

This is a really hard question for me to answer, I was actually thinking about this earlier. Honestly I don't really know. I seem to always be playing with AA when he is town, so it's easy for me to think "He's just like the last game we played!" which is obviously going to be one where he rolled town.

I guess right now it comes down to I haven't seen anything that is wolfy but I have connected the tone and style to how he plays when he is town. I also think he's an experienced enough player to fake his play style while he is a wolf though, so it's hard.

[DaBackpack]

[MixMasterLar]

Originally Posted by mellonxcollie

Right now I'm leaning toward Shado, and not just because he is pushing me. It's because he is making a push way too early, way too aggressively and with much too flimsy reasoning. Yes I responded in an emotional manner but he just kept pushing, and pushing, rather than listening to me it seems. I think town players genuinely want to read people's responses and it didn't really seem like Shadow has been doing that, not only with me either.

Hey AA do you think this is sheeping or not?

Looks like mad sheeping to me.

And oh Lar I'm playing this game, I didn't mean I'm going to stop playing. I meant I'm not going to interact with you because you aren't a nice person and this is supposed to be a fun game

You're in the wrong subforum if you think people are gonna be 100% nice in here.

It's part of the game and means nothing once post-game happens. Accept it because that's how it is rather you like it or not.

[MixMasterLar]

Ok I promise I'm going to let Raeko post in peace for awhile and focus on some other shit in the meantime

[thesunfan]

Originally Posted by MixMasterLar

Your playstyle does disgust me. Don't take that as a personal attack because I don't mean it as such, but yeah it's garbage and I stand by it.

alright dude you need to chill

[AragakiAyase]

Originally Posted by MixMasterLar

Hey AA do you think this is sheeping or not?

Looks like mad sheeping to me.





You're in the wrong subforum if you think people are gonna be 100% nice in here.

It's part of the game and means nothing once post-game happens. Accept it because that's how it is rather you like it or not.

eh, I think at a certain point it's hard to have "new thoughts", it doesn't bother me too much atm

[ShadoWolfe]

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

it's level one play in the sense that you're saying "oh mellon isn't posting/is UTR so she's a wolf"

it's not that simple, mellon is never a high volume poster so ???

Just saw this.
When did I say this?
Go ahead, find me one fucking post.

I'm going to do the opposite of caps here to not seem overtly emotional:

i said i was voting her to get her to come in and once she did i would likely unvote, i never said i thought she was a wolf as a result. i even outlined exactly what her options were in coming back to the thread and what my response would be like so you can take your level one bullshit and put it back where it came from.. i might have some ideas as to where to find the bull, if you'd like.

[Charu]

What's funny about MML atm is, even though he's pretty much being rude, I feel like his rudeness is actually clouding his judgement on mellon.

So...

I'm gonna say that's a hard town read. Wolves wouldn't do this, not a chance.

[mellonxcollie]

guys I have an idea let's stop talking about me cause I'm not a wolf

Wolves are loving this rn

[thesunfan]

Originally Posted by MixMasterLar

Xel trending down

DPB trending up

SunFan said fuck and I'm kind of scared about that. I think he's likely town atm though

Need more Proph in here. Actually I'm pretty ok with Proph so far

why are those people trending in those directions

why does me saying fuck matter this one is seriously ??????

last line is extra ????????????

[DaBackpack]

this one's for yoshl since he's watching

[Hakulyte]

Originally Posted by mellonxcollie

guys I have an idea let's stop talking about me cause I'm not a wolf

The problem is that the wolves are probably talking about you~

[AragakiAyase]

Originally Posted by ShadoWolfe

Just saw this.
When did I say this?
Go ahead, find me one fucking post.

I'm going to do the opposite of caps here to not seem overtly emotional:

i said i was voting her to get her to come in and once she did i would likely unvote, i never said i thought she was a wolf as a result. i even outlined exactly what her options were in coming back to the thread and what my response would be like so you can take your level one bullshit and put it back where it came from.. i might have some ideas as to where to find the bull, if you'd like.

it's basically right here

Originally Posted by ShadoWolfe

Unvote
Say what you'd like about lame/annoying metareads, but my vote's going on mellon if she doesn't start posting.

In the game she won as SK by being UTR, she told "her haters" to suck it up 'cause it worked out for her. The following game (FE), she was wolf again and won by replacing an inactive Zenith and remaining mostly UTR for the rest of the game. While I applauded that at the time, both times, what tends to happen when you play back-to-back UTR strats is that you neatly get that added to your meta. If you don't like it, play a couple of active wolf games to change your meta. As it is, I don't care how high the horse is you're trying to be on by saying that reading you by activity is annoying. Post, or get lynched.

and implied multiple times in other places, it doesn't have to be explicit

while you're responding to other stuff, could you talk some more about the progression outlined in my spoiler? a few things: I never said you thought that she was a wolf, I said that you didn't vote her and then voted her for some reason, and it seems like you're overly concerned about justifying your vote on her. outlining your responses is exactly what I have a problem with, because as dbp said it seems like you're strategically planning the rest of your behavior which in general is nagl

[ShadoWolfe]

Originally Posted by DaBackpack

how incredibly reductive this is. Additionally, it reads more like a "hey guys, here's how I'm going to be thinking for the rest of the phase"

which, again, is constructing a situation where he won't be given shit for doing "exactly what he said he was going to do earlier on"

tl;dr it seems very strategic instead of thorough or sincere

People were continuously misunderstanding my intentions, so I thought I'd boil it down to the most basic level for them. Look at AA, he's still under the assumption that I was voting raeko because of a scumread, despite me spelling my reasoning out in such "reductivistic" language

[TWG Jade Harley]

so almost done reading the thread and i just wanna say

mml your being a butt

doesnt matter if you think your in the right, your still being a butt

[TWG Jade Harley]

chill out buttlord >:[

[AragakiAyase]

Originally Posted by ShadoWolfe

People were continuously misunderstanding my intentions, so I thought I'd boil it down to the most basic level for them. Look at AA, he's still under the assumption that I was voting raeko because of a scumread, despite me spelling my reasoning out in such "reductivistic" language

again, where did I ever say that

I said that pressure votes are fine, my concern is your progression and your concern with justifying it properly

I don't think I'd have had any problems if you just voted mellon and said get in here or something like that