The Etterna Project

[YoshL]

would it be worst case, or would could it be balanced with like, middle ground for the judgments (goods would be like, 112.5 ms) with a percentage cap of the original DP w/o holds factored in? (to prevent overinflation of scores)

I guess the reasoning is, the new profile scores tab is really cool, but not seeing all the previous scores listed in there that i've gotten makes it weird to see what i should be playing to make the skill rating more accurate to the system.

[MinaciousGrace]

tbh doing something like that probably would be fine as a practical matter but i wouldnt really be comfortable doing it in principle

say you have a score on amber shores with 200g all of which are 80ms or more early, assuming each one was only 65 ms just seems like bad practice

[YoshL]

i guess, in practice you can definitely argue that that really doesn't happen at all, and that timing will for the most part, follow a gaussian distribution

even if someone's timing is skewed early or late, it will usually err on the side of undervaluing each judgement.

Scores where say, there's like a couple goods randomly, those may be overvalued, however they would probably be completely negligible due to the fact that random cbs don't really do too much to alter the final score. If there's more, the cbs would usually be accompanied by other cbs and bad judgement, again because of natural distribution tendencies and w/e. And if there's too much, then the score's probably too low to actually contribute too much to your profile stats anyways

edit: either way, if you do decide to do something like this, would it also be possible to denote scores that were converted over from dp in like, the profile screen and pb in the lower left and other places as well

[MinaciousGrace]

yeah you're right, i'll think on it, regardless of what i decide i'm still never going to like the idea of possibly rewarding players where they dont deserve it

also yes tagging converted files would be a prerequisite for this


e: ok ive decided to do midwindow conversions but there will be a ~_prICe 2 PAy_~

[YoshL]

I think there's definitely fringe cases where the player gets rewarded, but those are like, generally never going to happen simply because you'd have to have stupid accuracy at the latter edge of a timing window in order for that to happen, and the general gaussian distribution would still balance that out i think?

like if someone hit right at the edge of the perfect window, then yeah that would reward them, but that would mean that they already had fucking godlike MA, and just a shitty ass offset, in which case, they deserve to at least take a tiny bump up in score?

idk i'm really trying to think of cases where players do get rewarded, but they don't really make sense for people who are like, legit playing the game, since i do think that the edge cases should be accounted for and definitely factored into reasoning

[MinaciousGrace]

it would almost assuredly be limited to fringe cases like consistently jumptrilling something like amber shores early yes

or very short files where proper distributions don't have enough samples to form

[Casey2069]

K.

[MinaciousGrace]

woops, i'll fix it asaply, thanks for letting us know

[hi19hi19]

Is there still the ability to have two players split screen like in normal Stepmania or OpenITG?
I'm not quite sure how to activate that mode in Etterna, if it is still possible.

[MinaciousGrace]

short answer is no

long answer is it's not supported in the theme but you can use the build and a different theme and it will work

[CaptainAhab]

I downloaded the latest version of the installer, but when I double-click it in my Downloads folder, nothing happens. I've tried running it as an administrator, but no dice. Any suggestions? I'm on Windows 10.

[Celirra]

Originally Posted by CaptainAhab

I downloaded the latest version of the installer, but when I double-click it in my Downloads folder, nothing happens. I've tried running it as an administrator, but no dice. Any suggestions? I'm on Windows 10.

It might be an issue with your firewall/antivirus settings, in which case you may need to make an exception for Etterna. Alternatively, check in system processes and make sure it attempts to run when double clicking it.

[CaptainAhab]

Originally Posted by Celirra

It might be an issue with your firewall/antivirus settings, in which case you may need to make an exception for Etterna. Alternatively, check in system processes and make sure it attempts to run when double clicking it.

No process starts, and I even added it into my allowed Firewall apps -- nada. Very odd. Thanks anyway.

[Casey2069]

Will a feature similar to this ever be added?

[Dinglesberry]

Originally Posted by CaptainAhab

No process starts, and I even added it into my allowed Firewall apps -- nada. Very odd. Thanks anyway.

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EDIT: where u beeeeeen broo

[Sidek]

why not set a restart function during the song i mean its really annoying to press esc and press enter to only restart the every song..

[Casey2069]

` Restarts a song

But you have to have the newest release

[CaptainAhab]

Originally Posted by Dinglesberry

asedfasdkjfhaskjhd casptainahabbb

EDIT: where u beeeeeen broo

Tried everything I could possibly think of to get this version of SM running, and after no success, went back to osu lmao. I'll give this a shot again soon.

[Nick012]

Did you try running the installer in compatibility mode?
Or redownloading the installer.

[CaptainAhab]

Originally Posted by Nick012

Did you try running the installer in compatibility mode?
Or redownloading the installer.

I ran it in compatibility mode with Windows 8, and I've tried redownloading the installer numerous times. Nothing has worked, unfortunately. I'm baffled.

EDIT: IT WORKS! There was a tiny box that I have never seen before about "unblocking" this application; since it "came from another computer," Windows 10 was prohibiting it from running.