TWG CLII: Another Sleepless Night - GAME THREAD

[thesunfan]

Originally Posted by storn42

There's only 2 reds. The OP linked the setup of the game which means that's the setup we'really using. Otherwise any changes would be listed in the op. As there is CLEARLY nothing I the OP about the setup other than the link to it, nothing has changed. Also storn locked clear, he didn't know the number of woofs in the game.

Honestly, if the last sentence wasn't there, I would be townreading storn hard for this

[roundbox]

I'm getting bad vibes looking at the player list with my PoE goggles on. Will definitely be dissecting votes on every player. Almost just a on day 0 voting with zero evidence (DaBackpacks flip just on the border for evidence), shit is probably WACK

[AragakiAyase]

Originally Posted by roundbox

I'm getting bad vibes looking at the player list with my PoE goggles on. Will definitely be dissecting votes on every player. Almost just a on day 0 voting with zero evidence (DaBackpacks flip just on the border for evidence), shit is probably WACK

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[roundbox]

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

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Almost insta. Shoutouts to phone

[thesunfan]

I don't think that almost having an insta d0 is inherently weird, but I'll wait on what you have to say

[roundbox]

Originally Posted by roundbox

Almost insta. Shoutouts to phone

And to clarify: evidence in my mind counts as voting history and flips after a succession of posts. D0 is just the making of that history. DaBackpack dying may be important down the road but for Day0 it was just circumstantial evidence

[roundbox]

Originally Posted by thesunfan

I don't think that almost having an insta d0 is inherently weird, but I'll wait on what you have to say

It was going to be insta if I actually placed my vote. I held off because the wagon was shitty and I was anticipating someone else moving or putting a nail in his coffin. I made my intentions very clear for my vote and the last second swaps were very alarming from my eyes. My reason for not liking d0 instas can wait until I have a full keyboard to express my thoughts, but the idea is based off of first impressions and the fact the seond wagon in this instance had three votes. The other three were NOBODY (aka me) and Red Blaster and Del doing some stupid finger pointing bullshit that is going to propel town into losing if they keep up that charade instead of interacting with other people.

[thesunfan]

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

Wait, you quoted my posts and I'm pretty sure I said as much about roundbox as sunfan did and I was the one pushing the idea that roundbox would be less likely to n0 DBP, so why do you have sunfan as possibly attempting some early vote swaying off of roundbox instead of me?

come the fuck on AA

[blindreper1179]

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

you can also make your own reads though instead of just sheeping?

I'm not sheeping. I'm collecting data from those "data points" you've mentioned before. I haven't voted you have I? I'm asking a question to everyone, and that's it for now.

Do their reads help put a base on my leans? Sure, but that doesn't make it concrete. I found you scummy anyways with the why you voted and the flip of tokzic. Jailer or vt, it looks especially bad on you, and all of us who voted. I don't doubt there's a wolf on the votes, and I think it's you.

[thesunfan]

I tried to be objective going back into this reread, but its pretty hard at this point because AA's early game seems really wolfy to me, partly because of the interactions we've had this phase

[thesunfan]

Originally Posted by blindreper1179

stuff

why did you vote for Tokzic

[AragakiAyase]

Originally Posted by thesunfan

come the fuck on AA

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[thesunfan]

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

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the post I quoted basically shows that you were using what you said about roundbox as a read, lmfao

[thesunfan]

you were using it as a read
reads are what are used to determine the lynches
not some bullshit about reads being disjointed from what determines lynches

[AragakiAyase]

Originally Posted by thesunfan

the post I quoted basically shows that you were using what you said about roundbox as a read, lmfao

I never said I wouldn't use it as a read

I said it would/should not be a deciding factor in a lynch

read my fucking posts greg

[AragakiAyase]

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

read my post

it was a read but not something that should decide the lynch

for the record this is completely consistent with what i've been saying

nightkill stuff can be a read but not something that should decide the lynch

go wash your eyes or something because you're clearly hung up on this point I've clarified 5 times now

[AragakiAyase]

Originally Posted by thesunfan

you were using it as a read
reads are what are used to determine the lynches
not some bullshit about reads being disjointed from what determines lynches

I can give someone a townread for doing something but I can still lynch them if they do a lot of other scummy shit

like cedo for his early pushes but now I want to lynch him for switching his vote

one read is not what determines whether or not I want to lynch someone, at least it isn't usually

[AragakiAyase]

what I'm saying here is that multiple reads make up a lynch but the nightkill one shouldn't be the heavy factor, it should be the rest of said players' behavior

[AragakiAyase]

let me give you an example:

I think roundbox, based on the DBP n0 kill, is less likely to make that kill and therefore more likely to be town based off of that

if roundbox does a lot of scummy shit I'll lynch him anyway

[thesunfan]

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

what I'm saying here is that multiple reads make up a lynch but the nightkill one shouldn't be the heavy factor, it should be the rest of said players' behavior

its not consistent because early on you said that it didn't really mean anything you just wanted to hear what people had to say about it, I'll quote the post for you

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

yeah I just wanted to see what people thought but everyone ignored me except you (and blind)

actually clearing anyone off of the nightkill is dumb