Suicide

[Fighterforce32]

Can current events lead to depression?

[Jam930]

This suicide thread isn't a very happy one...




...no irony there.

[hatakikakashi]

omg this isn't dead yet? WOW is all i have to say, besides everything else I'm about to say.

Jamie. You are, by far, the most gorgeous person I've never met, and will never meet. You deserve hundreds of millions of dollars, body gaurds, and your own personal slave. If it were up to me you would have anything you want whenever you want it at all times.

People like you are the reason I wish I was dead. People like you, whom I have no hope of ever being with. My God. I think I'm going to start crying now.

[Jam930]

...wow.


Thanks... but I think you're seriously overexaggerating pretty much everything there is to overexaggerate.

[evilbutterfly]

Jamie. You are, by far, the most gorgeous person I've never met, and will never meet. You deserve hundreds of millions of dollars, body gaurds, and your own personal slave. If it were up to me you would have anything you want whenever you want it at all times.

People like you are the reason I wish I was dead. People like you, whom I have no hope of ever being with. My God. I think I'm going to start crying now.

Somebody obviously hasn't been here for a while.

And dude, do you realize how many people would see her and think "I'll never get a girl like that!" Seriously, just about everybody does. And the ones who are all like "psh, I could get better than her" are all assholes. I'd rather be a self-doubting person than an ass any day of the week. So what you need to do is grow up, realize that you're better than you think, and just live life. No use crying/killing yourself about it.

[Jam930]

Well... what he said was pretty sweet.

[evilbutterfly]

Yeah, until the part about how he should be dead and that he's gonna go cry about it.

[Dippo_Teh_Shippo]

All right. I'm kinda slow on the uptake but leave that be. I know what commiting suicide is like.... At first you think "All my problems will be solved! I'll be free from this life and I'll still live!" Coming from personal experience: WRONG! I've tried it. I still have those same problems, but now I try to solve them. I'm getting help with them as I need it, but that's all I need. My parents were what I was running from, but I found out my father (The only biological parent I have left) is the one who needs me to solve these problems. On my own. Being in high school makes it tougher, but I have good friends who'll help me when I get stuck. So to all you people out there contemplating suicide, take my adivce: Don't do it. You have people who love you and they'll help you solve whatever you have to deal with. I'd know. I'm getting that help as of now.

[Karfu]

I've thought of suicide but no matter how bad things get I won't ever off myself to attempt to escape my problems. Even if there is an afterlife. I'd still have to live with the guilt. I would still have another one of my problems with me. So heed his warning. [u]Don't commit suicide.

[hatakikakashi]

Yeah suicide isn't the right answer. It's actually pretty scary to think about it. I need help in the worst way. I don't want to kill myself as much as I used to and that's good. I never really wanted to do it, I just thought about it alot, and hurt myself pretty bad a couple of times. My advice is whatever you do don't think about it all the time. Try to put it out of your mind, if you can that is. Because when I sat there and thought about it day after day, it seemed easier and easier to just do it, and that is really scary. I'm just having a little trouble right now that's all. If I work hard towards my goals then things will get better sooner or later. I've got an idea of what I want to do now and that, I think, is a step in the right direction. I'm going after one of my dreams and I think that will either occupy my mind and keep me busy or maybe just maybe I have a shot at self-actualizing. Wouldn't that be nice.

[Jam930]

Death before dishonor...

How does that fit into all of this. I for one believe in this.


We all die eventually... would it be better to end it deliberately in order to try and preserve your dignity or honor?

Do we really need to sit around in rocking chairs for that last dragging and nearly pointless 40 years?


What is life really worth?

[Vamps]

Wow, this thread is still going...i thought it died!
Killing yourself to preserve dignity and honour is different to killing yourself because you're in pain in your last few years of life. The last 40 years could be the most importnant years of your life, you may only live to be 40, or you may live to 100. Either way you can accomplish alot in those 40 years. Death to preserve honour/dignity was something the Japanese Samuri's used to do. Well, all Japanese soldiers were told to honour their family by commiting suicide if caught by the enemy in WWII. Im not real big on the actual facts about all this, but i know it was an old Japanese "tradition" i suppose you could call it.
I dont believe that any family in modern society would rather their son/husband to kill themself, whether Japanese or not, just because they were imprisoned. I can understand someone that has done something dishonourable wishing to commit suicide, but I also think that it's the wrong thing to do. Just like any other reason for commiting suicide, i can understand, at least to some degree, but i still dont think actually KILLING yourself is the right way to go about things, i draw the line at self harm.
Either way, killing yourself because you've just got another 40 years to live and you dont feel like it is most definately not a wise thing to do, and i dont think that killing yourself in aid of honour and dignity is the right way to go around fixing things either.

[lord_carbo]

I'm guessing you guys read The Giver? It shows the horrors of euthanasia, basically the same thing as suicide (and democracy and how much others suffer more than us and a lot of other depressing topics.). If you haven't I can't believe you haven't read that book. It's excellent.

I'd stereotypically estimate most who commit suicide are teenagers. Suicidal teenagers are just plain mentally challenged. They don't like life and where it is going so they want to die? Boo fucking hoo, they should really get over it. Yeah I'm being bitchy and insensitive, but seriously, suicidal teenagers are so damn ignorant. They act like their life will be like that forever, that they will not change, and neither will the people they are around.

Now for some quotes:

Wow, this thread is still going...i thought it died!

Lol pun. I must look stupid and insensative pointing something out like that.

EDIT: You view them as a weakness, as an inferiority? You think they should die, and their bodies fed to others? I remember this dude a while back who that the same thing, the race of Jews were inferior. He actually went out and did something about it, though, instead of posting on a message board, probably cause they didn't have them at the time. He was a fascist who viewed being Jewish as being weak, and thusly he began to summarily execute all of them based on the ideal that because someone was a certain way, they were weak. I don't think I need to tell you who this groovy dude was, but you and him would have a swingin' time hating people you considered inferior if he were alive today.

Definately a stupid thing to say IMO. You were better leaving this out of your post. Your refrence to Hitler is very poor and makes you sound like someone's religion can be comparable to someone's mental state.

Making it illegal just makes the curious scared to do it.

Keep it illegal.

Seconded. Good point brought up.

http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse....gi?u=depressed

Just follow his simple instructions. If you want to commit suicide, then do it. A lot of people who are that depressed let themselves get that depressed. If you are so caught up in your problems that you don't think there is any way out of them, then maybe suicide is the answer for you. Just make sure to talk to friends and family before you do it, because they might be able to help.

Wow this is now my favorite website. This guy is a thinker. Let's get him over here.

[jewpinthethird]

Making it illegal just makes the curious scared to do it.

For some reason, the way this sentence is worded, it just doesn't work. Attempting suicide isnt quite the same thing as, say experimenting with marijuana.

Keeping marijuana illegal keeps those who are curious from trying it...but suicide is like...well, it's suicide, I don't know anyone who is truly curious about killing themselves. How can be you be curious about suicide? "hmm...gee. I wonder what it would be like to be dead...Only one way to find out!"

I mean, if you fail at suicide, then technically it isnt suicide. You could always play it off as "oh, I lost my balance and fell bridge...oh, I was also training for the olympics...that's way this rock is tied to my ankle."

Even if you suck at coming up with excuses for your failed suicide, no one can say otherwise...unless you write a suicide note saying "hey, I'm killing myself right now, ttyl."

I mean, if you are serious about suicide, and you fail, not only did you fail at killing yourself, but now you are in trouble with the law. Making suicide illegal is just a stupid idea.

But, I guess stupid ideas go hand in hand.

[lord_carbo]

Originally Posted by jewpinthethird

But, I guess stupid ideas go hand in hand.

In other words...

If you are stupid enough to think about commiting suicide, who isn't to say you are stupid enough to not commit suicide because it is illegal?

[Sera13]

i think its about time this topic commits suicide.. its been aroun way to long, and its getting no where.

[MalReynolds]

It's actually getting a lot of places. I know I retired from this thread, but I don't think it's time for a lock. There's no more flaming, just discussion.

Mal

[hatakikakashi]

Originally Posted by lord_carbo

In other words...

If you are stupid enough to think about commiting suicide, who isn't to say you are stupid enough to not commit suicide because it is illegal?

Look buddy, your not stupid because you think about something. Suicide may be a dumb thing to do, but don't insult people like that. That's just as stupid.

[lord_carbo]

Originally Posted by hatakikakashi

Look buddy, your not stupid because you think about something. Suicide may be a dumb thing to do, but don't insult people like that. That's just as stupid.

Suicide is a stupid act no matter how you look at it. Someone who is suicidal is probably an ignorant person to start with. They are depressive, but I can't exactly tell you my or anyone elses life is plucking dasies, but suicide is something I and many others are not dumb enough to even think about. Yeah yeah there are people that can classify themselves as geniuses and they commit suicide, but they obviously weren't big on the side of common sense that ending your life over something is not the way to go.

[hatakikakashi]

Just because you get depressed doesn't mean your dumb for thinking. I never said suicide was smart. People sometimes literally cannot help what they are thinking about. If it were so easy to just wish away all the bad thoughts I'm sure that anyone would. I know I would. Just because suicide has crossed my mind doesn't make me an idiot. If you haven't considered it, that doesn't make you superior either. You haven't had to deal with those kinds of feelings apparently and I'm glad you haven't thought of killing yourself, but seriously though you aren't helping anyone. Because you haven't thought about suicide doesn't mean your better than me, or anyone else, it doesn't mean your smarter, it doesn't mean we are stupid. Suicide is a desparate act, it can be very sad, but it isn't allways a stupid thing to do. It could be anywhere from cowardly to a heroic. It just depends on the circumstances. Your being negative and narrow minded.