Suicide

[hatakikakashi]

What do you think? Should it be illegal? Why do people do it?

[Meteor858]

ummm ok well i have depression and attempt suicide on a regular basis so heres what i think...
I think that its an escape from this so called life used by people like me who see no true happiness in being alive.
I think it shouldnt be illegal because its a great way of solving problems that are otherwise unsolvable.
We do it to escape from the bad in the world?
You get it now dip shit?

[hatakikakashi]

FYI it is illegal. I personally don't think it should be, and I don't understand how you are punished for it but it IS. And what's with the hostility, you don't know anything about me or why I want to know what other people think about this. Believe me when I say I'm not trying to be offensive to you or anyone. I have depression also and have struggled with strong and frequent thoughts about commiting suicide, and wanted to see what OTHER PEOPLE are thinking and feeling. So please take this as an apology for not wording it more openly. I didn't want to have to go on about my own problems because noone else cares about me but me. I wanted to know what YOU think.

[GuidoHunter]

Easy, Meteor. No need for flaming.

What do you mean by "this so called life"? I've got news, buddy, there's nothing "so-called" about it. This is your life and you only get one.

Should it be illegal? Well, if you succeed there's obviously nothing to be done. If you fail, though, I don't see why it should be punished. Honestly, I don't think putting someone in prison will be the deterrant of future attempts. Sure, it is tantamount to murder, but I still don't think punishing it would have any of the effects that the punishment is supposed to have.

I feel that anyone who commits suicide is just too weak to handle life. I've got nothing but scorn for suicide and find it to be incredibly stupid.

There are plenty of ways to escape the bad in the world rather than giving up like a crybaby.

--Guido

http://andy.mikee385.com

[Meteor858]

sry i was angry when i posted that, lol
well by this so called life i meant that for me, it isnt a life. Can you call wakin up every morning wishing you were dead, and the only thing to look forward to is the hatred from others a life?

[hatakikakashi]

Yours may be a difficult life, or a very sad one, but every life is still worth something. I think you should see it through untill it ends naturally. Try to take things into your own hands and squeeze this existence for all you can. I'm not going to promise you that things will get better, that's stupid. But I will say that it can get better. Life is fluid and everchanging. It flows up and down. That's what I have to tell myself sometimes. I think to myself, "Just wait and see what happens next."

[Meteor858]

i already know whats gonna happen next, life gonna get harder and harder, worse and worse until i do die
any comments Dip Shit?

[Benny1]

I never really got suicide, it doesn't help a thing, it just makes things worse for other people. I think it should be illegal, although that out be pretty hard to enforce.

[Kilgamayan]

Originally Posted by Meteor858

any comments Dip (#$%?

Shut up with the flaming. Warning #1.

[Moogy]

emo alert

[Tsuteto]

Suicide... it's only a simple escape for people in their eyes, but is it truly escaping at all? I mean, if you think about it, is it really worth the fear of knowing that once you do it, your chances of not surviving are high? And what about the people you left behind? Your family and friends? Didn't your friends not choose YOU to be a companion? Did not your parents raise you, whether they were your birth parents or ones who took you in, despite where you came from or what nationality you are?

Yeah, suicide isn't the smartest thing. It's one of those things where, yes, it can be seen as an 'escape'. However, those who commit suicide or attempted to do so just don't want to take the time to look at something else to help escape. I prefer slashing of arms and such over suicide. At least they are still alive then. Also, people who go with suicide as their only option are just doing something to be a 'payback' to everyone in life. They say they don't have a life, but they're breathing, no?

[Tank101]

Watch some Rurouni Kenshin.

As Guido said, there is no point in making suicide illegal besides the fact that it may prevent a few people from doing it for whatever reason.

[Cenright]

Suicide is a mind being selfish. They aren't thinking clearly, and all they are thinking about are THEIR problems, RIGHT then. Someone contemplating suicide isn't thinking of how they will affect others.

[Omeganitros]

Jewpin owned this a long time ago.

Noob: "What's the point in living?"

Jewpin: "Entertainment."

Omega: "Woah. He's good."

[stretchypanda]

I'm surprised that everyone is jumping on the "suicide is selfish" bandwagon.

A very close friend of my family had the.. uh.. "privilege" of discovering the body of her ex-husband after he killed himself, and then, just before I started college, her only son -- again, the victim of suicide. The ex-husband suffered from post-traumatic stress disorder (I think the hardship of dealing with that eventually led to their divorce). I'm going to venture a guess that some form of depression was passed on from father to son. No one knew he was in any kind of pain. Seriously. His mother saw him the day before he did it, and then she went to his house the next day and he was dead.

I'm not saying at all that I think suicide is okay. I know the pain it causes those left behind (my uncle by marriage also killed himself after my mom's sister divorced him). I'm just saying that it's not something that can be so easily pushed aside. Yeah, some people who consider and/or attempt suicide are just looking for what seems to be the only way out, but there are so many instances where a person is just trapped by something that is really, clinically wrong with him/her, and sometimes that can just take over.

[Kilgamayan]

Oh, I forgot to post thoughts on this issue.

As far as I'm concerned, it's their life, it's their choice, and neither myself nor anyone else on the planet is in any position to rightfully judge their final desicion.

[Anticrombie0909]

Uh, if it's illegal, all that will do is make the suicidal person make damn sure he gets the job done.

Real effective.

As for suicide...anybody who condemns suicide obviously has never suffered from severe depression. I'm not talking about I GOT A B- ON MY TEST BOO HOO WOE IS ME, I'm talking about actual, clinical, chemical-imbalance depression. Having suffered from it without medication (my parents don't know) for a good ~3 years now, I can tell you that it's the worst feeling in the world. There is not anything that feels worse than severe depression. Nothing. I can promise you that. Why do you think people cut themselves? Because they want a way to make the pain they feel inside physical. They want to feel something, anything different than how they feel now, and even severe pain is better.

It's not a logical illness. You can't just say "talk yourself out of it" or "go get some friends loser." It's the most irrational illness around. It's like a phobia. You can scream at yourself to feel better till you're blue in the face, it won't matter. You can have a perfect life and have all the friends in the world, but none of that is worth anything when it comes to depression. It's like a drug that you're always taking, always addicted to, but never satisfied. There's no up, only down. You keep waiting for it to get better, you tell yourself that it's got to get better, and it never does. You just keep going down, down and down.

Don't ever take it lightly if somebody tells you they have depression. You honestly cannot even fathom how horrible it is. It's horrible enough to make somebody want to die. There's literally nothing else in the world like it.

[Meteor858]

anticrombie you took the words outta my mouth
No seriously it was very well put and very true
those of you who dont have depression cannot even fathom it
-meteor

[QreepyBORIS]

I know it's not supposed to be taken this way, but all the people suffering from depression sound almost ELITIST about it. :P

"You you guys can't imagine, don't try."


But I digress. (Attempted) Suicide should not be illegal, but the people should be seriously put on medication. Cause massive therapy would probably fail, anyways. And jail (using our heads, here) would be like the perfect thing to EXACERBATE the strength of the depression.

And I think Suicide is only actually ILLEGAL in England.

[Benny1]

Okay since we are on the topic, my friend is depressed apparently, because he took this medicine for his ADD a long time ago, and he keeps telling me he wants to suicide, I have no clue what to do, I try to help him get help, but he refuses, says people aren't ever trying to help, they just want to be rich bastards, he says he once had gotten help and he hated the person so much, he said it didn't help at all, he refuses entirely. I don't know what to do, it's really scary though, knowing my friend might kill himself. He also refuses to ask his parents if there is anything they can do too. I just don't get it, I'm not able to understand this stuff....