TWG CXLIV - The Freeze Wars (Sex Live)

[DaBackpack]

fuck you Tokzic

fuck you

[AragakiAyase]

going to sleep but xel seems like an excellent candidate today

[dLGN]

Originally Posted by dLGN

charu gave one of the reactions I liked the most this game. would be impressed if he was a wolf.

the other two you named, xel and storn, I would vote on in a heartbeat.

YESSSSSS THAT READ TIMING YESSSSSSS <3 charu

[dLGN]

Botchi my boy!

[dLGN]

You're real!!!!!! <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3

[DaBackpack]

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

going to sleep but xel seems like an excellent candidate today

I agree xelnya

[YoshL]

also, insta is at 5

[dLGN]

ummm why do my posts need approval now?

[dLGN]

oh nvm that worked

[DaBackpack]

Alright! One of Tokzic's convos was made up! Let's see whose...

[AragakiAyase]

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

this is my conversation with AJ today, if he's a wolf then just wow
like idk what other reaction I'd have

botchi246 [5:14 PM] 
Where do you stand on tokzic and i

aragakiayase [6:20 PM] 
in terms of activity recently tokzic looks better right now

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you earn points just because you're new and you being fake is far less likely than tokzic

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but your behavior is not what I'd expect from a hobo who has a counterclaim

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like it feels like earlier after the xiz mislynch you were treating tokzic like he's human

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I also haven't seen you do reads

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like at all

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and tokzic is working a case against you but you're just sitting there it feels like

botchi246 [6:40 PM] 
I put reads up itt

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Yesterday

aragakiayase [6:41 PM] 
there is no reasoning behind them

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that's fine with the tokzic scumread because that one is implicit from your POV but all the others are just there

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why do you read dbp town

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why dlgn

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why rzr

botchi246 [6:42 PM] 
I can't put up reads i cant back up

aragakiayase [6:42 PM] 
that's fine but you have rzr/dbp/dlgn as town

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I assume you have something to back it up or you wouldn't have put it up

botchi246 [6:42 PM] 
From i have spoken  with them they are town. I posted those logs

aragakiayase [6:44 PM] 
specifics

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what exactly about your chat with them makes you read them town

botchi246 [6:46 PM] 
Ill pull some stuff up, gimme a few

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there are so many things in rzrs chat

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you want me to copy paste all of it in here?

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well all the little segments

aragakiayase [6:49 PM] 
sure

botchi246 [6:50 PM] 
rzr [2:21 AM] 
I was saying to AA we could send 2 suspects to the kidz zone if one backs out then one of them isd a wolf if they both die we get both flips, assuming 1 is a wolf since 2 wolves wouldn't go

botchi246 [2:22 AM] 
Thats a nice idea and all

rzr [2:22 AM] 
also my lmao wasn't at you it was at dlgn

botchi246 [2:22 AM] 
But i doubt anyone would agree to that

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I know i wouldnt

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Im fine with other guys going, but is like to protect my lives

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Id*

aragakiayase [6:50 PM] 
so what about this seems town

botchi246 [6:50 PM] 
im not done

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its a combination of stuff

aragakiayase [6:50 PM] 
ok

botchi246 [6:51 PM] 
botchi246 [12:28 AM] 
Round is on fence for me

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And toxciz cuz no idea

rzr [12:29 AM] 
Round and tokzic are actually the players I kow the best.
Tokzic I get a town feel from so far, or at least nothing harmful if that makes more snese.
Roundbox, he's still not helping much.

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And he usually does

botchi246 [12:30 AM] 
Hmm wolfy?

rzr [12:33 AM] 
For round, yeah, that's what everyone is talking about yeah.

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but my problem with that is round is one hell of  a player, and mislynching him this early could really screw the game

botchi246 [12:35 AM] 
I agree from your explanation

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I feel like i could be in the crosshairs

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rzr [2:56 PM] 
No I know

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so okay lemme get u hip where I'm at

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I didn't know anything that really happened last night

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I've talked with dlgn and AA that's it

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I still do not trust dlgn, but he doesn't trust AA, and AA doesn't care about him

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I do trust AA, so that concerns me

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Tokzic asked me to do something last night that I need to confirm -

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And we need to fully evaluate Xiz

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I would like to do that you and me because, no offense, if Xiz flips human then it's obvi between you/tokzic

botchi246 [2:59 PM] 
Yah obvi

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But aa is like attached to xiz

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Saying hes town

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lol in no particular order sorry

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.

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.

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,

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ok so when i was chatting with rzr and all these little convos happened, it made him look very town

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he was consistently coming up with good points and perspectives

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and that makes me think he is town

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cuz he was on my side

aragakiayase [6:55 PM] 
this is something to be careful of https://twig.slack.com/archives/D0FSJEN8N/p1449705315000041
AJ Bartlettbotchi246
cuz he was on my side
Today at 6:55 PM

​[6:55] 
do you know what a pocket is in this game

botchi246 [6:55 PM] 
yes i know

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i was victim with tokzic

aragakiayase [6:56 PM] 
ok so do you think rzr could possibly be pocketing you if you're town

botchi246 [6:56 PM] 
well i didnt really come up with anything in this chat that was unique

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i guess i was more or less backpacking

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cuz his ideas seem good

aragakiayase [6:56 PM] 
ok

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i'm sure you know this now but backpacking is generally not well received by players

botchi246 [6:57 PM] 
yehh

aragakiayase [6:57 PM] 
that aside, what do you think of the points that have been brought up by rzr

botchi246 [6:57 PM] 
but since that was pretty much all i was doing in the beginning, there is not a whole lot else to draw from

aragakiayase [6:57 PM] 
like when he paired you and tokzic as a wolf team?

botchi246 [6:58 PM] 
that i think is a ploy to get tokzic and I to throw fire at each other so that reads are easier

aragakiayase [6:58 PM] 
so you think that's still towny?

botchi246 [6:58 PM] 
i think it is

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it would make deciding who to lynch so much easier from a town perspective

aragakiayase [7:00 PM] 
ok

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but what do you think of the fact that when he lists possible scenarios for lynching the hobos

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he never has both you and tokzic wolf?

botchi246 [7:01 PM] 
i dont think it is possible to put us both as wolves

aragakiayase [7:01 PM] 
so you think he just threw it out there to spark discussion

botchi246 [7:02 PM] 
i seriously doubt that if i was not the hobo, the hobo would have stayed silent for this long after first hobo claim and especially xiz lynch

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would not have*

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or wait

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would have

aragakiayase [7:03 PM] 
yeah I think there's no way you and tokzic are both wolves

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but he just threw it out there and then didn't say anything about it

botchi246 [7:03 PM] 
i wrote it right the first time

aragakiayase [7:03 PM] 
even though his next post was about potential scenarios

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it feels like he's trying to propose alternate scenarios that he knows are weak and ends up not following up on them

botchi246 [7:03 PM] 
well he seems to have lost his gusto for the game

aragakiayase [7:04 PM] 
I agree

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ok why do you townread dbp

botchi246 [7:06 PM] 
his stuff is more in the thread, but anyways I like him town because he doesnt seem to have partnered with anyone and is doing his detective thing

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and if he was wolf i dont think he would have tried as hard

aragakiayase [7:07 PM] 
ok

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how about dlgn

botchi246 [7:08 PM] 
despite everyones misgivings about him i think he has been town from the beginning

aragakiayase [7:09 PM] 
this was from his conversation with you at some point

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dlgn [3:48 AM] 
i think it's a lot easier than people make it seem

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it's k

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i hope you realize I am town

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just sheep my reads

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I will try to push the right lynches

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what doyou think of him saying to sheep his reads

botchi246 [7:23 PM] 
sorry having an argument irl right now

aragakiayase [7:24 PM] 
np

botchi246 [7:31 PM] 
Well thats when i was backpacking

aragakiayase [7:31 PM] 
yes but looking back does it seem towny or wolfy

botchi246 [7:33 PM] 
Seems scummy

aragakiayase [7:33 PM] 
what else about him seems town to you

botchi246 [7:36 PM] 
But at any given time anyone can seem scummy

aragakiayase [7:37 PM] 
yeah

botchi246 [7:37 PM] 
Even though his first idea was that plan and was pretty blatant town, it rubbed people the wrong way

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I still got a town feel from it

aragakiayase [7:39 PM] 
anything else

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because I feel like he's dipped utr a bit recently

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he's pretty null for me now

botchi246 [7:39 PM] 
But I just didnt really wanna go through with it aince inwas a hobo.and didnt feel comfortable outing yet

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He has gone more under the radar because i think everything he says just gets the microscope and its not worth it to him

aragakiayase [7:40 PM] 
I hadn't considered that actually, that's a  good point

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ok one more question

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why should we lynch tokzic over you

botchi246 [7:47 PM] 
I have been 100% genuine

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There hasnt been.anything thrown at me that i cant responsibly answer

aragakiayase [7:48 PM] 
ok

botchi246 [7:48 PM] 
Evem.though rzr.voted me a couple times,it wasnt because he thought i was a wolf

aragakiayase [7:48 PM] 
why haven't you been building a case against tokzic

botchi246 [7:48 PM] 
It qas because he wanted me to.apeak yp

aragakiayase [7:48 PM] 
yeah I saw that

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xel did smoething similar at some point

botchi246 [7:49 PM] 
I have been trying

aragakiayase [7:49 PM] 
where

botchi246 [7:52 PM] 
I have it written on a piece of paper at home

aragakiayase [7:52 PM] 
ok

botchi246 [7:52 PM] 
Which i hope i can get to before eod

aragakiayase [7:52 PM] 
I've been trying to probe your thought process

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and it seems clean

botchi246 [7:52 PM] 
Cuz im at work

aragakiayase [7:52 PM] 
that combined with your being new makes me think tokzic is almost certainly wolf

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but I want to see your case against tokzic

his thought process seems completely clean, his tone is very pure, he admitted to backpacking early on but seems to be trying to develop reads now. I do want to see what his case against tokzic is but I'm 95% sure tokzic is wolf

just saying

[AragakiAyase]

Originally Posted by DaBackpack

Alright! One of Tokzic's convos was made up! Let's see whose...

or two of them

[dLGN]

also roundbox looks GREAT now. i don't think tokzic ever expected to die and wasn't distancing there, imo

[dLGN]

high five AA!!

[AragakiAyase]

Originally Posted by dLGN

also roundbox looks GREAT now. i don't think tokzic ever expected to die and wasn't distancing there, imo

I agree but I want to see him continue putting in work like he said he would

Originally Posted by dLGN

high five AA!!

*high five*

[AragakiAyase]

ok now I'm going to sleep before my headache worsens

[dLGN]

feel better, friend

[DaBackpack]

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

or two of them

true!

[dLGN]

also I went to the dino den both nights so far LMAO

[dLGN]

i really hope we hit the movie stalker tonight and have a safe night, that would nearly secure the win (just when this was looking pretty dire, somehow?)