TWG CXLIII: SK Loses Again Game Thread

[AragakiAyase]

interesting note yoshl has posted much more than he usually does
hmm

[DaBackpack]

seeing the post about the data point about the innocent child *

[AragakiAyase]

yeah how is it a slip yoshl/choof

[choof]

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

yeah how is it a slip yoshl/choof

I believe that if you had recieved a town aligned power role, you would not have made the slip

[AragakiAyase]

Originally Posted by choof

I believe that if you had recieved a town aligned power role, you would not have made the slip

but what is the logic behind that

[DaBackpack]

hi James May

[DaBackpack]

bye James May

[yo man im awesome]

Zenith/Yoshl/AA

Zenith is now, on top of all of his earlier low-quality posting, trying to mindmeld with people around him by giving me a "slight-wolf lean", also simultaneously tied to me voting him. Note Zenith gives AA mild town and yoshl completely null.

Yoshl is pushing his points to the grave and is super accusational. "So you're not denying x....." has been said at least 4 times in some form or another. pretty sure he also gave me a "slight-wolf lean" mindmelding, I also mentioned that I was suspicious, albeit a little, in my Zenith vote post so that likely had something to do with that.

AA's big analysis posts are even more general and irrelevant than Xelnya's, and from what I understand he is more than capable of producing well thought out posts. Note that in his "read" post, 481, he basically says that Zenith is playing poorly, but gives him a town lean, votes yoshl, and leans me scum.

I literally don't care about DBP today, I don't see him as wolf currently today so I see no reason to belabor any more of that argument. At this point everyone needs to focus on actual lynch targets. Less about how "everyone feels", and more who's a good lynch target. I don't want D0 to end up us trying to rush a lynch at the end of the day, I want a lynch that makes sense.

I think any of those 3 above are worth lynching today.

[roundbox]

All being said about YoshL, keep in mind that SK will need to scum hunt in order to secure the W (mafia alive negates win condition), and that wolves will need to be cautious about the SK murderblasting them. I don't think a scum YoshL is this dumb to be openly hunting an SK right off of the bat. His reasoning for DaBackpack being SK is pretty lame, and I honestly have no idea how both him and V have arrived at that possibility (more of a conclusion for YoshL at this stage).
DaBackpack has shown that his human game and SK game are very similar, but what are the differences? Like, what does an SK DaBackpack do and a human DaBackpack do that's jumping out? Are you confident enough to push DaBackpack to a lynch because you think the SK side of him is standing out more than a human DaBackpack?

[roundbox]

Originally Posted by _Zenith_

Here is my quick alignment leans before I pop off for bed from what I've gathered rereading what I missed:

1. Vendetta21 - slight town read
2. MrPopadopalis25 Town Innocent Child
3. XelNya - null
4. rzr - questioning
5. _Zenith_ - cheesecake
6. DaBackPack - town
7. roundbox - null
8. James May - skeptical
9. Yoshl - strong null
10. Red Blaster - slight wolf lean
11. AragakiAyase - slight town
12. choof - town
13. yo man im awesome - slight wolf lean

I sincerely hope that you're going to expand on this list next time you're in the thread, specifically:

How XelNya switched from "null but slight town" to pure null here
How AA went from "spectator mode with slank cover" to slight town
How DaBackpack went from null to full-on townread

Originally Posted by _Zenith_

I'm making due with the information via posts that I have to work with; and because of above is the reason his is solely a gutread at the moment. Did you expect me with the growth of information that I would not change my reads to adjust to the newly gained information?

I will admit that I did not correctly read the word "gutread" in your initial post, but gutreads are gutreads, and concrete evidence works better than an inkling. And yes, of course I do anticipate you to update and change reads as you do get new information, which is the point of this current post.

[roundbox]

also I'm satisfied with AA's contribution at the moment and would like to hear more from Xelnya

Time to contribute, buddy
(this call goes out to James May and Red Blaster as well. We still have over 36 hours left in the day phase)

[roundbox]

Originally Posted by roundbox

y similar, but what are the differences? Like, what does an SK DaBackpack do and a human DaBackpack do that's jumping out? Are you confident enough to push DaBackpack to a lynch because you think the SK side of him is standing out more than a human DaBackpack?

fyi this is me realizing that I'm now personally finding no discernible difference between DaBackpack's human and SK game and now wondering how we have two players attached to this SK idea

[YoshL]

it's a thing that i believe

[roundbox]

Originally Posted by YoshL

it's a thing that i believe

Two things: are you going to pursue this for the lynch?

Second:

Feel free to read the rest of his posts from that game (http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...6&pp=50&page=6), it looks like any of his other human games (even the one we just played http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...&pp=50&page=10 where he DIDN'T callsign properly). I can't find anything really striking between the two.

[YoshL]

i think i've said multiple times to leave him for the wolves, because sk and wolves are directly against each other in the beginning.

which is why i (think) my vote is still on AA

[AragakiAyase]

@ymia: please go into detail how you think it's general and irrelevant. I leaned you scum because it seemed like you were going for easy town points and posting fluff. I leaned zenith town because although he's playing poorly it seems like his town game. I have yoshl as scum for reasons I have stated multiple times. If my scumreads can't come up with a better argument than "bad reads" then lol

Good night

[AragakiAyase]

Originally Posted by roundbox

fyi this is me realizing that I'm now personally finding no discernible difference between DaBackpack's human and SK game and now wondering how we have two players attached to this SK idea

He fluff posted as sk, he doesn't fluff post as human, at least not to this extent

[YoshL]

although revising the AA read

[YoshL]

red blastercya

[AragakiAyase]

One last thing, ymia tone change is interesting, seems like he's responding to pressure finally