TWG CXLII - A Storm of Hard and Boiled [Game Thread]

[Charu]

So, the simplest way I can explain my strong belief that sunfan is a woof is by... well, quoting everything of his that I found to be incriminating to him in my eyes.

I won't comment on any of them, I'm just gonna let the quotes speak for themselves. If you want me to write it out, then lol, I'm not a big fan of super long posts.

Pandering to town:

Originally Posted by thesunfan

I'm very glad that Charu is in this game
Mainly because he will never be able to lynch me
BUT HE KEEPS TRYING

Originally Posted by thesunfan

I THOUGHT THE SAME THING
I REALLY REALLY REALLY WANT THAT READ TO BE TRUE
asdf

Originally Posted by thesunfan

who do you think is a wolf so far
pick 3

Originally Posted by thesunfan

Working on channeling my inner Manti atm in order to break the setup
I \think\ if a few things are done towns chances go way up, namely involving EVERYONE in the game cooperating with hider-shenanigans

Originally Posted by thesunfan

I will choose to let this slide because my early shitposting was a bit awkward and I have faith in myself to get townread

but I am a \bit\ worried you feel this way

Originally Posted by thesunfan

plop is \probably\ town for his big ass reads list I really liked the thought processes behind it

Originally Posted by thesunfan

this is the most interesting thing you have ever said in TWG
not being sarcastic, actually
I don't know if I can determine your alignment from this but I love you for posting it, not even because its a mindmeld
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Rolehunting

Originally Posted by thesunfan

btw @tracker/vigi
you haven't decided your role yet
the only situation where you're not completely dumb for choosing tracker over vigi is if both of the other town roles are forced to claim today, and town deserves to lose if that happens
pick vigi between the two

while it gives the hider one more target to die to, that shouldn't matter too too much if what I'm playing with works out

Originally Posted by thesunfan

I may or may not be the hider, but if I was the hider I would be the hider hiding behind x person
x is yet to be determined
(this is a preview to what I have planned)

Originally Posted by thesunfan

big post its pretty easy to follow though

HIDER STUFF:
Similar to how everyone claims a green-check in the champion's game, everyone should soft who they would be hiding behind if they were the hider. This gives a chance for the real hider to give their info in advance, and, in the event of their death, will give info regarding someone who is most likely scum. ITS VERY IMPORTANT THAT THE REAL HIDER DOES NOT LIE ABOUT WHO THEY HIDE BEHIND.

A brief showing of the order of operations of roles
Tracker/vigi chooses their role (Role conversion)
Hider chooses a player to hide behind
Woles/Vigi (if present after n1) choose a target to kill
Detective/Psychologist/Tracker (if present after n1) choose a player to investigate*
Hider dies if hiding behind a killing role (Wolves/vigi) OR if the person they are hiding behind is shot
Other Deaths
Investigative Roles receive results
*It is important to note that the Detective and the Psychologist receive their result AFTER the killing has taken place, making the Detective slightly stronger and the Psychologist slightly weaker.

So, with this in mind, the Hider has some interesting interactions with some of the roles, namely the vigi. By each player hypoing their future "hiding" for each night, this gives town info in the event of the hider's death. This is stronger than each player claiming a green check in the champion's game, because the hider can soft a future red check that gets revealed to town in the event of their death.

Yes, the hider does die if they hide behind the vigilante. But this isn't really a bad thing. Aside from the SK, which is obviously not present in this setup, vigilante is probably the hardest role for scum to successfully fakeclaim (if you don't know why I won't spoil it). So, if the hider dies, and mafia one way or another fakeclaims vigi, fun things will happen, and town will be in a pretty alright position still.

Everyone should, at some point before EOD, claim who they will be hiding behind. Its the best possible plan. If someone wants to be a dumbass and claim I'm rolehunting for this post, go ahead, I could use a good laugh today.

Originally Posted by thesunfan

and yet, it either gives myself (the hider) proper cover to leave who I am hiding behind OR gives the real hider proper cover to do the same thing

so it doesn't matter who starts it, really

Possible distancing?

Originally Posted by thesunfan

she's a good player capable of fooling me.
I had her as a scum-lean early most of the last game we played together until she had a really good response to me calling her scum
she'll probably do something at some point that I find either REALLY wolfy or REALLY townie, based on what I expect from her as a player

Originally Posted by thesunfan

how is it role-digging please explain to me how it is role-digging

Originally Posted by 27ninjabunnies

What is a shit vote?

Because if the mod just confirmed greg as town, im gonna laugh so hard at how weird this forum is

Originally Posted by thesunfan

noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo, a post that means nothing = shit post
a vote that means nothing = shit vote
looooooooooooooooooool though if bunnies ever flips wolf I'm pseudo-confirmed

[Charu]

Definitely expecting YoshL to comment on such that it's just a bunch of quotes.

Waiting for next YoshL replay in... 1... 2... 3...

[Charu]

By that extension, you can see I have a faint air of suspicion to the other two wolves. Bun and rzr!

[Charu]

Though it's really weak with bun, but since she's somewhat of a topic...

I definitely still suspect rzr thoooooough

[YoshL]

is pandering to town necessarily bad?
you're still offering no reasoning, so write that shit out fucko
because all i see from thos quotes is sunfan trying his best early game
regardless, this is a tone read, doesn't really offer much, especially given that it can be taken many ways

rolehunting
he's not rolehunting. he's trying to understand the best case of action for the mechanics, and there's nothing wrong with that
if you really wanted to be consistent though, you'd have been harping on me for also doing the same thing when i came into the game.

distancing
this would be true if both sunfan and bun are wolves, and you're still assuming that sunfan is a wolf. the assumption is there, but you still have never given any good concrete reasoning

[YoshL]

slam chop dunkey

charu is doing some massive saveface.jpg and scramble.png

but i'm like

nope.avi

[Charu]

I don't exactly know what you expect me to write, bucko!

I feel those quotes suffice me enough, so therefore that's all ya gonna get.

And saveface.jpg? Sorry, but I'm more doing a facepalm.mp4 for you.

[Charu]

Over... and over... and over...

[Charu]

...I feel like we're just gonna go in circles.

K, YoshL, who's my partners? You said storn and... erm... who else? Lets see...

[Charu]

Originally Posted by YoshL

charu/storn/xel

Ah, there it is.

[Charu]

So alright, lets dissect this little team we got going on here.

We got storn who is following my lead like a lost puppy and Xel who I've defended, stated I pocketed, and is generally doing things on his own, like saying storn is, erm... weird?

[Charu]

Storn voted for clownpiece at the end, don't know his reason exactly, but it probably was a piggyback from mine or Tokzic's, who knows.

Xel, fuck, who did Xel vote for? Was it sunfan actually?

[Charu]

Well you quoted the vote count, so lets take a peak.

[Charu]

No, he went after bun buns.

[YoshL]

it's also great that because you feel like you can't refute my points about you anymore, you're deflecting to "oh no might as well see if i can throw him off by picking on the less-established/sure points that he's made so far"

[Charu]

How can I refute your points when it's all circumstantial? There's no need for me to refute when I've shown my reason. There's nothing left for me to even say, unless you just want a repeat.

[Charu]

Would a "spam" text suffice instead? Because that's all you'll be getting from me.

[Charu]

...Can I just say I can't wait until the others come around.

[Charu]

Oh, and here's a bit of advertisement to tide us over until the next drama sensation!

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[Charu]

...So...

storn, I've seen you hovering there. Are you still with us or are you sleeping and just left the thread up?