jTWG LXXVI: Duo Deception | Game Thread!!!

[thesunfan]

I bet everyone in the game one USD that T-Force isn't town.
t-force

Yoshl's almost always town if T-Force is a woof because of T-Force's read on Yoshl; its an attempted pocket for sure.

Almost certainly not going to be here for EOD (Especially if it happens as early as Shadow wants it to) so I'm likely not moving that vote.

If you're voting for someone else I highly encourage you to look back at T-Force's reads. They're awkward. They're not thought through. His read on Yoshl has 0 thought put into it. His read on shadow is awkward as fuck (though its pretty clear what he's saying the way he's doing it is not how a town should be doing it, and this is coming from me).

Help's town because he doesn't know what's going on and its clear that he actually trusts other people he's reading town in the game. Highly doubt he's a wolf.

I keep putting Yoshl off like a Biology Report so I'll reconsider him in lylo if we get there.

Shadow and T-Force are almost never a team and the way Shadow has played lines up with his previous game. Wouldn't lynch.

T-Force's partner is inside of Kayla and storn, would assume Kayla over storn because I don't think T-Force is bussing.

[thesunfan]

FOLLOW ME
TRUST IN ME
TRUST ME AND WE WILL LYNCH ALL THE WOLFIES
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[thesunfan]

can we kill Trevor yet?

[ShadowDueler97]

I'm game.

Would you actually put Kayla over storn? I mean thinking about it now I can see why. But I don't see why it's so unlikely for T-Force to be bussing. I have a feeling that if T-Force actually is wolf then my wolf leaning on him put some pressure on him I guess and decided to take some measures by bussing his wolf partner storn who just so happens to be the most suspected person of being wolf among all players, so it's also a safe bussing if that makes sense.

[thesunfan]

that's entirely possible, but if that's the case then T-Force has had that planned for some time (Since he's been calling storn his top wolf for a LONG time) so while its possible I don't think its the case.

[YoshL]

5 hours until eod

cmon sunfan it took you long enough to be willing to end this t-farce

[thesunfan]

I've been willing for a while don't you twist my intentions, Cat-Spirit

[thesunfan]

I hate you so much this game Yoshl and its not even anything you've done its just me hating having to figure out what you actually want.
ps your avatar is a perfect metaphor for what you're doing to me this game just without the boobs.

[YoshL]

i want the booty that's all i want it's not that hard to fiqure out

[YoshL]

[thesunfan]

BUT IS THAT ALL YOU WANT
IS IT
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[YoshL]

nope

the one thing i want is sunfan to die this phase

[YoshL]

I use my gun to shoot sunfan

[danceflashrevo]

thesunfan has been squirted with water by yoshl

4 to insta!
storn (2) - tforce, shad
shad (1) - storn
greg (1) - yoshl
tforce (1) - greg
No Vote: help, psychoangel

[thesunfan]

im mad a f
going to work use ur heads people

[T-Force]

Originally Posted by ShadowDueler97

This whole game I feel like I've been making really solid posts, which have been overshadowed (no pun intended) by me also having to also always defend myself, which I also think I've done a decent job of doing.

But the fact I have to keep defending myself is probably because of bad play on my part.

Welcome to how practically every TWG player feels.

Originally Posted by thesunfan

I bet everyone in the game one USD that T-Force isn't town.

Make it one of those Presidential dollar coins, and you're on.

[T-Force]

PS. Hi guys, I'm home. ELABORATE READS TIME~
AKA I go more in depth about some of my reads, and care less about a few because focus doesn't need to go on them today.

Storn: Top wolf read. Could interchange with Shadow depending on one thing.

I don't really know what else to say about storn. He's wolfy as hell one moment, and the next he goes and pulls an extremely towny move. If he's a wolf, he's not really bussing his partner (unless it's Shadow), but seeing as that strategy blew up in his face, it would make sense that he'd want to change that up.
A look into his latest reads list shows

Originally Posted by storn42

TheSunFan - null/woof lean
helphelp11 - MIA
ShadowDueler97 - woof lean
T-Force - town lean
YoshL - town lean
psychoangel691 - null

I don't think he'd try and bus again so if he's a wolf, his partners lie within: helphelp, myself, YoshL, and Kayla, with a slight hint of sunfan mixed in there.


Psychoangel: Saw an opp to start a train on Gradiant and took it (speaking from person forum wolf experiences, starting a train is possibly indicative).
Has also taken D1 to completely fly UTR while Shadow and I butt heads, while the peanut gallery of YoshL and sunfan comment,and storn's just being a jester.

Day 0 was spent basically butting heads with CK with some penis envy and then

Originally Posted by psychoangel691

I'm kinda feeling either Storn or Gradiant for today, but a lot can still happen in those 2 and a half hrs.

I don't like how storn is basically like yeah null but I can go wolf on this person or leans wolf on so many people. It's like 5 out of the 9 people that he'd be willing to call a wolf. Or 8 really if you take him out.

Gradiant just has the same lack of presence I'm used to seeing when he's wolf.

This is said with about 3 hours to go, but her vote stays on Gradiant.

Day 1 begins and there's some headbutting with Shadow over the possibility of a storn lynch.

Originally Posted by psychoangel691

Hmmm, I do think there is a wolf somewhere in Shadow and Storn but not both. I'm going to look over both of them a little more closely.

My mind still keeps wandering back to CK, I wanted to pass the reaction off as being human but I'm really starting to wonder if it was the reaction of a wolf being upset they were caught so early. Last game I played with CK she was wolf and almost got nailed right away too. I really wonder if she rolled wolf again and got upset because people came down on her quick. I haven't looked too far into sunfan's posts yet since he took over so I still need to do that, but this was on my mind.

I have to admit I've sort of ignored yoshl and possibly for the same reason as he has me, oops lol. I mean nothing in particular has stood out as wolfy that I've seen, but I know that yoshl's a solid player and could easily deceive. I actually sort of expected him to be the night kill since he's been pretty actively wolf hunting and seems human to most people here. So it does make me wonder a little.

Similar read to mine regarding the wolf between Shadow and storn, while wanting to look back into TCSKF and basically clearing YoshL.
After that, practiclly silent for 24 hours until, once again, Shadow comes out of nowhere trying to push another lynch.

Basically, I see her trying to float UTR while pushing some other players, but not really doing much in terms of new ideas. I know she's very capable as a wolf, and could be using the other interactions going on (hi Shadow) to float about until the time is right.

Would really like to see a reads list, please.


thesunfan: Still not a fan of how CK reacted to anything, but human or wolf, she reacts that way regardless. Has been weirder this game than others I've seen him in; like he's not taking this one seriously. Maybe because jTWG?

I know I'm not the only one with a funny feeling on sunfan, even putting the Cold Kitten stuff aside. He has 98 posts in a little over one full day phase, and yet 50% of his posts are just bullshit said to look like he's saying stuff and keeping active. This isn't how I see Greg play; he goes hard in the paint, and is nbever so... "relaxed", for ;lack of better words. Not to mention, he's all but cleared helphelp

Originally Posted by thesunfan

Help's town because he doesn't know what's going on and its clear that he actually trusts other people he's reading town in the game. Highly doubt he's a wolf.

and is seemingly defending storn by suggesting alternate scenarios where storn isn't a wolf:

Originally Posted by thesunfan

SHADOW ASSUME STORN IS TOWN AND T-FORCE IS A WOLF WHO IS HIS PARTNER?

Originally Posted by thesunfan

T-Force's partner is inside of Kayla and storn, would assume Kayla over storn because I don't think T-Force is bussing.

PS. I never said I'd actually lynch you. I said I could get on board with it with some good reasoning, but that never surfaced:

Originally Posted by thesunfan

I looked back at said mental breakdown and I feel like I was at least just as loose as I am now so TRY AND LYNCH ME SOME OTHER WAY TREVOR CUZ ITS NOT GONNA BE LIKE THIS

Shadow: I still think he's town, but depending on circumstance, could easily swap with storn.

Despite you going all gung ho on me (and never really providing reasoning regarding me being a wolf aside from "his iso post on me was weird and out of left field" (I'm paraphrasing, deal with it), I don't think you're a wolf aside from ONE scenario. There's a reason you and storn are both purple. Think about it. I also softed that idea elsewhere, but it was either not picked up, nor ignored completely.


helphelp: Also gone UTR, but I stand by my idea that a new wolf wouldn't settle with a novote throughout all of D0 when there's no time for wolves to strat. Also slight feeling about helphelp, but in a good way.

Pretty much that.


YoshL: For once, you've basically been number 1 town in my eyes. This is a weird feeling.

I'm basing this off of previous games (jTWG, no less) I've played with him where he's a VT. Namely, something I've dubbed "The YoshL Test".
It's where he'll randomly call someone out for being a wolf to bait for reaction. I failed miserably when he tried it on soramimi and I snapped on him almost immediately. He caught me hook, line, and sinker from there.
Tiffany also got baited and bit: HARD. I've noticed he's stopped doing this, but with other mindmelds in his reads, I haven't seen much in his play for me to read him as anything other than town. Call it a pocket if you wish, but I assure you that's not the intention.

T-Force: (sun)

[YoshL]

tforce

i actually..feel like the normal town tforce is much more proactive.in doing.things.in general. this one seems a little bit.more spectator mode and in general, theres no question asking to further the game, but.rather a "heres what i think alrighty" kind of thing. also theres aome weird things in his reads post like the part about storn
私わヴァにぁと運

[ShadowDueler97]

If you read my posts again T-Force, you'll see I go into much more explanation on why I think you're wolf. Including when I mentioned that storn was being strangely biased towards you.

[YoshL]

im also using a new phone.keyboard that lets me type japanese

ほんと