jTWG LXXVI: Duo Deception | Game Thread!!!

[AragakiAyase]

Welp... Hope you guys know who the wolves are, it's pretty obvious now. (also killed N1 on my first jTWG, yay /end passiveaggressive)

[T-Force]

A.) Goddammit Rece you hype-raising piece...

B.) Towniest player dies. Not too surprised.

C.) Thanks for insta-ing before I could get home, guys. Really helpful. A+.

[T-Force]

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

Just my quick thoughts:

AA: nope
helphelp: still wolf lean for me. His inactivity was definitely a factor in pushing that way, and while he has tried to make up for that his reads seem very forced.
CK/Greg: the rq threw me off but I was starting to lean town
Yoshl: town lean, pushes very aggressively but I like that
storn: my highest candidate for wolf, his posting patterns and habit of switching arguments very quickly are suspicious
shadow: null, not sure
t-force: as others have pointed out, kind of odd how he has jumped on shadow. Null/wolf lean
psycho: null
Gradiant: null, backpacking yes but still null

Last reads list from AA, who says the wolves are obvious.

Helphelp, storn, shadow.

I don't think help's a wolf though.

Let's use the final votecount:

gradiant (5) - psychoangel, yoshl, greg, storn, shad
storn (1) - ayase
Unvote: gradiant
No Vote: help, t-force

I can all but guarantee that the two wolves are on the Gradiant train.
There is literally no reason for help or I to not vote as wolves, so help's ruled out.
Gradiant was an unvote and he ended up VT.
Aragaki had their vote on storn and they ended up VT.

storn, you're up first on the chopping block.

[YoshL]

super mind meld w/ t-force, top 2 candidates from that lynch come up as storn and shad

disagree w/ help not voting being not wolf, it's more new player-esque null

anyways, @AA if you're still reading thread, you did exactly what a townsperson needs to do: look like a townsperson, while still making their best effort to further the game. There's just a stupid balance between that and some other factors to help you survive the first night

and the last thought that i currently have is that sunfan is red flags in my head

[YoshL]

but especially coming in from day 1, storn would probably be my vote, barring a really good post from him.

[ShadowDueler97]

Going back to storn

and my two biggest wolf leans remain the same.

Storn seems to be the best and safest choice right now.

[storn42]

well.. i was going to make a post... then my computer got conveniently unpluged...

anyways... anybody else find it interesting how shadow seemed so intent on lynching me (he had his vote there for quite some time) and then decided to go for the insta because "why not"

Originally Posted by ShadowDueler97

Alright let's just do it

Gradiant

OOOOOOOOOOHHHHHH

[ShadowDueler97]

Originally Posted by storn42

well.. i was going to make a post... then my computer got conveniently unpluged...

anyways... anybody else find it interesting how shadow seemed so intent on lynching me (he had his vote there for quite some time) and then decided to go for the insta because "why not"

Because it was less than an hour until the end of the day. There was no way 3 people would switch their vote from Gradiant to you in that small amount of time.

The reason I felt it necessary to get Gradiant out of the way whether he was town or wolf was because if he didn't die, he would remain a lingering problem with people wondering if he's wolf or not. He would be moving attention away from figuring out who the other wolf/wolves is and keep the attention onto him. Now that he's gone, the fact he was town and died isn't so bad. Now it'll be that much easier to find the wolves with one less person gone.

[storn42]

thats still an hour we had to talk though. and how do you know that people wouldn't have switched. we already know t-force wanted to lynch me. and he still does dont you know! only 2 people would need to switch on me. and honestly i didn't want to put grad at L-1, but with 3 votes on me it was better than to risk a KiTB

[ShadowDueler97]

One point that I forgot to add was that you would most likely die today. Quite a few people were suspicious of Gradiant and he ended up being town. You've been my number wolf lean since the beginning of the game and still are. With Gradiant gone and being town that makes it that much more likely you're wolf.

[ShadowDueler97]

And honestly the odds 3 people switching from the already somewhat heavily suspected Gradiant to you in less than an hour were so slim.

[psychoangel691]

Originally Posted by ShadowDueler97

Because it was less than an hour until the end of the day. There was no way 3 people would switch their vote from Gradiant to you in that small amount of time.

The reason I felt it necessary to get Gradiant out of the way whether he was town or wolf was because if he didn't die, he would remain a lingering problem with people wondering if he's wolf or not. He would be moving attention away from figuring out who the other wolf/wolves is and keep the attention onto him. Now that he's gone, the fact he was town and died isn't so bad. Now it'll be that much easier to find the wolves with one less person gone.

That's not true, anything can change quickly in this game. It's really better to use the time we have to talk rather than insta unless we have a confirmed wolf from like a seering or something. Especially with night talk off.

[storn42]

shadow

[storn42]

Originally Posted by ShadowDueler97

And honestly the odds 3 people switching from the already somewhat heavily suspected Gradiant to you in less than an hour were so slim.

again, we already know that t-force was going to vote me. thats 3 votes, you need 2 more and who knows that they wouldn't switch, many people who voted grad already wanted me dead as well.

[T-Force]

Originally Posted by ShadowDueler97

Because it was less than an hour until the end of the day. There was no way 3 people would switch their vote from Gradiant to you in that small amount of time.

Yeah, as storn mentioned, I had posted my intent to vote him literally 8 minutes before you decided to insta him.
You're one of the next ones up, don't get me wrong. I had a gut feeling on you earlier and came to another conclusion that made me want to keep you around. Now I'm questioning it all over again.

[danceflashrevo]

Hey guys, sorry I screwed up the final votecount. Gradiant didn't unvote, he had a vote on greg. I just edited my post and didn't update my document keeping track of everything. It has been edited. Thank you for being understanding.

[T-Force]

Originally Posted by danceflashrevo

Hey guys, sorry I screwed up the final votecount. Gradiant didn't unvote, he had a vote on greg. I just edited my post and didn't update my document keeping track of everything. It has been edited. Thank you for being understanding.

Doesn't really change anything other than statistics. Gradiant's still VT and he's not on the train.

[ShadowDueler97]

As I said, I thought if Gradiant didn't die yesterday he would be a lingering problem. He was heavily suspected too. I saw an opportunity to get that problem out of the way and get that off everyone's chest and I took it.

[storn42]

Originally Posted by danceflashrevo

Hey guys, sorry I screwed up the final votecount. Gradiant didn't unvote, he had a vote on greg. I just edited my post and didn't update my document keeping track of everything. It has been edited. Thank you for being understanding.

i dont understand.

[ShadowDueler97]

Also that still would've been two more people. What could I have said that hadn't been said already to convince those people to switch to storn?