jTWG LXXVI: Duo Deception | Game Thread!!!

[Gradiant]

Still reading reading around what i missed but i will not be voting help this phase. unvote

[storn42]

Originally Posted by Gradiant

Okay, quoting specific parts of posts n my phone is a bitch, not doin that. STorn, what i got from yoshls early post was ck saying the post was bullshit, and yoshl saying it wasnt but hed get back to it once he was done playing his game.

im not done yet. hold your postings :P

[storn42]

ok so lets go over the reactions to "Cold Woof"

Originally Posted by storn42

CK getting heated like a woof stuck in a kennel

Originally Posted by psychoangel691

O_o so much mad so early

Originally Posted by Gradiant

Acting kinda serious for two joke votes, just super saiyan.

Originally Posted by YoshL

gradiant gets the cookie though

disgusting overreaction to joke post, also after trying to mimic being overly helpful to noobs (the thing about self voting was super awk.)

Originally Posted by YoshL

1 wolf down yoshl mvp 2k15 for real dough

so 3 people say "wow CK got mad" and 2 of us mentioned woof. yosh chooses gradient to agree with and that he was the one who pointed it out. i guess gradiant was just the one who said it most blatent and mine was kind of more of a taunt. Afterwards yosh confifently says he has found a woof.

Originally Posted by Cold Kitten

how am i supposed to know if something is a joke post or not. this isn't like a typical d0. we were saying helpful things mechanics-wise, so i don't know what to take as serious and what not. i ALSO LITERALLY ASKED IF YOU WERE BEING SERIOUS.

and sorry my opinions are apparently awkward, what can i do. i legitimately just really hate self voting, so yeah i'm gonna have something to say about it. soz.

Originally Posted by Cold Kitten

IF YOU WOULD READ

MY GODDAMN POST

YOU WOULD REALIZE

THAT I MEANT STUFF THAT ISN'T ABOUT ME

i can't defend myself against basically nothing

and i can't currently say "hey look at this person instead!!!!" because there's nothing else to go on


except that you basically look like you're sheeping right now so i guess there's that

Originally Posted by YoshL

also i still don't like ck because while one thing's like w/e - a bad reaction doesn't necessarily guarantee wolf, her continued defense doesn't feel like a defense at all, it's more like a whining kid who doesn't know what else to do but whine about her predicament

plus, you're not even whining about this game, you're falling apart over what "usually happens"

you're a person, use your words and logic, instead of whatever it is you're doing right now cold kitten cmon you're supposed to be a vet

so CK continures to whine about the game a once again yosh points it out this seems like its either a w/v conversation or a w/w distancing play. this kind of interaction continues out throughout the game.

[storn42]

idk who my vote is on right now :P unvote

[ShadowDueler97]

CK is reading at about 70% on my town meter. She's giving me an inexperienced vt vibe.

[psychoangel691]

Back on my computer now \o/

[ShadowDueler97]

I'm still content with my vote on storn. Not a hundred percent sure with T-Force, but he's still a second guess for me.

[danceflashrevo]

whoa stuff happened. have a votecount

5 to insta!
t-force (1) - ck
storn (2) - shad, ayase
ck (1) - yoshl
Unvote: gradiant, storn
No Vote: help, t-force, pyschoangel

[Gradiant]

Originally Posted by YoshL

anyways, simply put, I felt like with all of his backpacking and antics and very stretched logic - there's one post that i'm too lazy to go and find where he says that i backed off of ck, and if you look at the posts, i've never backed off ck, i just simply switched gears over to other analysis then went to sleep. (obv, ck hasn't appeared since, and that's worrying, and i've already said that in some previous post)

ANYWAYS, i feel like with all i said above, it's like, he's trying to make an effort to not have his own opinions out there because they might draw attention to him. It's much easier when you're just kinda agreeing with other people's opinions (as a wolf), and can easily throw some other player under the bus when a lynch doesn't go through, via "this guy started it, he must have been pushing because he's a wolf i'm red blaster" (or some more refined logic)

anyways, i feel like as a wolf in general, and especially in this game as a whole so far, gradiant has been the one who feels the most reserved in his playing; see this whole interaction where i did ignore his question for a while - i don't think he felt safe going on the offensive because of trying not to stick out and such. If you look at pretty much everyone else in the game, it feels more or less natural the way people are interracting with eachother, but grad kinda tunneled in as soon as i did my stuff, ignoring even the previous accusations of backpacking, failing to explain or give reasons, not even "i was just agreeing with people, that's all"

basically, in the large scope of the game, imo grad sticks out the most atm

Couldve said all this shit before when i was asking for it.
Backing off of ck = talkng about others instead, not sure how you see otherwise.

I have no problem with attention on me, i had some on me before and i was asking for reasonng which i didnt get until 5 pages later.

The redblaster shit doesnt belong in this post as it isnt somethng ive ever dne, even as a wolf. As well as the fact that when i was accused of backpacking the only points were the horribke reaction which several others pointed out, and the thing about invisible which tied into seperate things like her saying she was going to bed angrily but continuing to post afterwards after people mention her again.

I was posting for myself. Saying that shit about 'agreeing witb others' most likely wouldve made me a target of suspicion still since im not ' posting my own shit' still. So i didnt want to give that garbage a response.

[Gradiant]

Off break, ill be back in a bit

[storn42]

Originally Posted by YoshL

your commentary was incredibly jumbled, and a lot of time, your argument for defense was very unsound, and the wall of quotes and little bit of text following each one was like 0% helpful given that nearly every single one consisted of "this is bad", or "this is weird", or "i disagree", or some sort of "suspicionnnnn"

there's also the fact that a lot of the commentary is literally wrong, mostly because you're assuming a lot of things, such as, assuming that i'm serious when i say i'm super serious, assuming that people react the same way as you do when they're called a wolf, assuming that new players will act like new players regardless, and can't pull newbie cards as plays, etc. etc.

Originally Posted by YoshL

i'm moving right back towards a cold kitten lynch;

while, yes, she's providing commentary on people's posts, it's doing nothing more but going around in circles. she's yet to actually do something that furthers our collective effort to get reads on people, and is probably the biggest hypocrite so far

also if you didn't realize, joking =/= shitposting and you're bad lol

cold kitten

Originally Posted by YoshL

ANYWAYS, cold kitten feels human to me, i dunno about all you guys, what do you think

ok yoshl has been REALLY null for me. idk why.... but then i started reading into this. within a few pages of eachother yoshl goes from "lets start a CK lynch" to "ck is a human!" combined with the CK thing from earlier i have to put yoshl at a woof lean.

[storn42]

ok so gradiant.....

this is what he's posted of interest

Originally Posted by Gradiant

o wait, yoshl's super cereal

Originally Posted by Gradiant

I mean, some of my early wolf games I'd get called out and pretend to leave while staying on invisible and only post when I'd get called out more. Not a very good strategy imo.

Originally Posted by Gradiant

Okay, quoting specific parts of posts n my phone is a bitch, not doin that. STorn, what i got from yoshls early post was ck saying the post was bullshit, and yoshl saying it wasnt but hed get back to it once he was done playing his game.

thats pretty much it... idk... i'm getting a woofy vibe from him.... and i can see some of the banter between yosh and grad being w/w so idk, i'll give him a slight slight woof read.

[YoshL]

fucking hell guys i didn't expect you all to agree with me jesus

[YoshL]

i'm going to ask again though, helphelp, what do you think of all the players in this game so far

[AragakiAyase]

Originally Posted by YoshL

fucking hell guys i didn't expect you all to agree with me jesus

so was that your unpopular opinion or an attempt to flesh out some potentially interesting reads?

[storn42]

AA time!!!

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

Acting over defensive is a good way to get lynched I've heard

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

Seems a bit early for bussing though

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

And now only T-Force has yet to make an appearance...

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

However, one common mistake that the woof makes (so I've heard) is overposting so as to seem like they aren't lurking and not participating because they already have near-perfect information. Just a thought.

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

Her reaction to yoshl at start of D0 did seem rather strange but it is plausible that it was caused by lack of sleep so I'm not set on CK as woof yet. Yoshl did push rather aggressively which makes me curious because there are three possibilities:

1. CK is woof and reacted poorly, Yoshl intuition is correct.
2. CK is woof and so is Yoshl, early bus play to create distance.
3. CK is town and Yoshl is woof and it's a combination of Yoshl mindgames and CK lack of sleep.

Not enough info for me to pick one definitively so I'll leave it at that for now. Shadow's point against storn, for now, is much easier to follow so I'm rolling with that.

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

CK certainly feels more town than storn. CK is probably just losing control atm which can happen to anyone. It's a bit difficult to push any sort of alignment off of that regardless. Storn however is acting kind of strange in terms of pushing opinions then backing off really quickly as well as spouting some very strange hypothetical situations that I noted in my earlier post.

so... after that big wall of quotes... im actually getting a pretty towny vibe from AA. seems like and honest new player trying to have unique opinions. some quotes could be read as woofyness but im definately getting a more town read than anything why did i make this hole quote wall if im just going to make general thoughts? idk, i guess they show what im thinking.. and i dont feel like deleting them now :P

[storn42]

i also forgot to mention that AA's thinking seems very town minded.

[storn42]

Originally Posted by ShadowDueler97

ouch....
this game is already going somewhere

Originally Posted by ShadowDueler97

Yeah, CK's reaction caught me by surprise. Makes me wonder...
I'm waiting to see if YoshL is gonna pull a dfr this game. After the last game I can't trust anyone.

Originally Posted by ShadowDueler97

storn

Being in the last jtwg and then reading what Trevor said, I'm getting a bad vibe from storn.

shadow seems to be doing a lot of side commentary and sheeping. the only unique opinion i found from him is this and his read on T-force.

Originally Posted by ShadowDueler97

Oooh wait a min storn and ck are kinda reminding me of each other anyone get that vibe hmmmmm

Probably not but it's just a thought

idk.... im getting a slight woof read from him.. kind of on the same level as gradiant... but i doubt they're both woofs... i think i want to put shadow at a more woofy level than grad though, and say that grad is more of a null than a shadow is.

[AragakiAyase]

What exactly is the definition of null?

[psychoangel691]

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

What exactly is the definition of null?

You don't really know how you feel about that person yet, no wolf or human lean.