Suicide - Page 8

chocoborider30 · 08-5-2005, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Vamps

Famine is linked to poverty...and there is literally no food in some places in America

A.K.A My kitchen

Besides...If you can't put up with what is thrown at you, so you kill yourself, You are weak. I don't care if the world has died around you. Commiting suicide is offensive to everyone else, and it makes others think of it as well.

I don't frankly want to hear your problems. I've been through a load already. I even thought of suicide for a while, and tried it. I passed out before I could finish the job. But after I got out of the Lauriette, and after counseling was over, I knew, for a fact, suicide shows a weakness that nobody else has. It has no relevance to wether or not you think suicide is right or wrong. If you commit suicide, you're weak. End of story.

esupin · 08-5-2005, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by chocoborider30

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vamps

Famine is linked to poverty...and there is literally no food in some places in America

A.K.A My kitchen

Somewhat echoing my point:

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Originally Posted by chocoborider30

I don't care if the world has died around you. Commiting suicide is offensive to everyone else, and it makes others think of it as well.

If you commit suicide, you're weak.

As for my last two posts that were off topic... I felt I had to defend myself, nothing more.

-Skooter- · 08-8-2005, 12:33 PM

Vamps, here's a realization. Mal, I think this reflects off of your post as well. Even though, there is a such thing as clinical depression, most of the idiots out here, don't really have an imbalance. Therefore making their depression psychological.

As for you Vamps, you are a psychological case. REAL depressed people don't flaunt it, because it's not a quality, it's a posession. Not only that, but they also don't run around in baggy fifty dollar pants, and black eye liner, and assume they are making some extreme statement to the world about how lonely they are in life. I've been there, done that. It's f*ing ignorant.

You can rant and rave to me to explain that you dress that way because you like it, and that you call yourself goth because it's "Your scene" but you're lying. I don't buy that shit for one second. So before you go preaching and trying to teach me a lesson, it would probably be in your best interest to not be so "fraud" about it.

No, Choco, you're not weak if you commit suicide. You're stupid. (I bet you thought I was going to say something sweet, sensetive, and emotional, huh?) There's no reason to be nice about it, in fear of how someone's going to take it, shit, if they hesitate to kill themselves, then they're more than likely not going to do it anyways. The only people that kill themselves, or attempt to, are a bunch of flaming idiots, and the people who support them with pats on the back, and cupcakes, are even dumber than them.

Edit: Vamps, your exclamation points aren't making you're statements anymore powerful than you are assuming they already are. They just look stupid.

Vamps · 08-12-2005, 12:08 PM

excuse me...but i was BORN with depression..i do believe that makes it umm...maybe...AN INBALANCE!! i DONT run around in baggy $50 pants and black eyeliner...i rarely wear makeup...i cant afford fancy things like that! i am NOT flaunting the fact that i have depression...as a matter of fact i try to tell myself and my mother that i DONT have depression....but when you find yourself feeling depressed when there is absolutely NO logical reason to be depressed...you kinda assume that u have it. Not to mention the fact that my great-grandma, my grandma and my mum all have clinical depression...all of them severe clinical depression...it CAN be passed on genetically...i've done the research...not something id do if i was just depressed for the sake of being depressed or something. The "goth" thing...is just something im interested in...u stereotype waaaay too much! and as for emlamation marks...i just like using them...i couldnt care less about ur opinions. Try looking up a few facts before u go making comments about depression...if ud read the WHOLE 10 pages of the thread...you would realise what it looks like for some1 to be "flaunting" their depression!

Tokzic · 08-12-2005, 02:34 PM

What do I think about suicide?

I think suicide is the easy way out. Suicide is announcing to yourself that your problems are beyond being solvable and that because you let your existance become meaningless to you, you're going to end it. In other words, you're weak. All problems can be solved one way or another, and most problems can be lived with. As long as I'm enjoying parts of my life, which I make sure of, it'll always be worth living. Problems happen, and killing yourself is not a solution.

What especially sickens me are those who get depressed over relationships. "oh he hates me im gona kil miself!!!1" Stupid. Get over it.

In fact, to anyone considering suicide, I have this to say:

You suck. Life pwnz you. Go get therapy.

jewpinthethird · 08-13-2005, 04:09 AM

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Originally Posted by -Skooter-

Depression is psychological, not clinical.

If it isnt clinical, then why do they call it clinical depression?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clinical_depression

-Skooter- · 08-15-2005, 02:17 AM

Because they're idiots. Something ultimately can't exist if we as humans don't make it up and turn it into "the truth".

Vamps · 08-16-2005, 07:22 AM

uhh...where do u get that from? Trees, animals ect. existed BEFORE humans...so that theory doesnt work. And a chemical inbalance cant just exist simply because a human up and says it does!

shade11 · 08-16-2005, 12:59 PM

Never good wasnt good wont be good it's no good. Who in their right ming would smoke Pot? It should be only meant for medical purposes.

Tokzic · 08-16-2005, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by shade11

Never good wasnt good wont be good it's no good. Who in their right ming would smoke Pot? It should be only meant for medical purposes.

Wrong thread. This is about depression, suicide, and other stupidity. XP

-Skooter- · 08-17-2005, 10:53 AM

Stupidity. That's right.Vamps, quit whining. My theory was based on psychological illness, not enviromental objects.

Jam930 · 08-18-2005, 04:38 AM

"What do you think? Should it be illegal? Why do people do it?"

Well.. I was going to commit suicide but now that I see it's illegal... I'll just not and continue with my life.

People do it because they feel they're trapped... there's no other way out of their situation that wouldn't completely rob them of their dignity... or something. I dunno. Maybe they had a breakup.

Vamps · 08-18-2005, 05:57 AM

depression is not soley a phsycological illness....there are a fair few cases where it is infact a chemical inbalance....this is clinical depression

-Skooter- · 08-18-2005, 06:18 AM

No it isn't. I don't see clinically depressed people having time enough to squeeze into the threads everyday to every other day. Not to mention, I didn't say it was "soley" psychological, I said it was a mass majority.

Read my posts thouroughly if you're going to respond.

Vamps · 08-20-2005, 06:48 AM

what does having clinical depression have to do with having the time to "squeeze into the threads everyday to every other day"?? having clinical depression doesnt mean u have less time in ur day than any other person

Tokzic · 08-20-2005, 07:57 AM

Apparantly you don't think you have the time to put grammar into your posts. I don't blame you; sulking and brooding are time-consuming activities, you must be on a tight schedule.

chuandyou · 08-20-2005, 09:40 AM

People want to kill themselves because they only face on the negatives. The way they were raised shows them not to look at the things that are good and positive, but the things that are bad an negative. They essentially dig themselves in a hole and bury themselves alive with the shovel their parents gave them. (its a metaphor, dumb f**k)

**chickendude** · 08-20-2005, 10:04 AM

hey man, nobody even said anything yet and you're flaming. Calm down dude

Jam930 · 08-20-2005, 12:45 PM

I think it all boils down to the fact that you have to take less crap when you're dead.

Lor_Walz · 08-20-2005, 04:43 PM

I don't think that commiting suicide should be illegal, on the grounds that t would be a usless law. People will do it weither it is illegal or not. If they do not suceed however in their attempt, they should be sent to a rehibilitation facility in order to recieve physical and mental assistance. Arresting them will not serve any purpose, and they will more than likely look for a way to die in prison. Also, court justices would have a hard time convictng any "suicidals" for the fact that only the victim (if i may call them that) knows their intentions. Perhaps they were purly a vitim of cercumstance and had no intention of killing themselves. Where is the line also drawn between the intention of killing one's person, to simply hurting one's self to a certain degree, above death itself. Perhaps the person did not and had no intention of acually dying. Alright, I'm done heh.

08-8-2005, 12:33 PM	#143
-Skooter- FFR Player Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Computer ;) Posts: 316	Vamps, here's a realization. Mal, I think this reflects off of your post as well. Even though, there is a such thing as clinical depression, most of the idiots out here, don't really have an imbalance. Therefore making their depression psychological. As for you Vamps, you are a psychological case. REAL depressed people don't flaunt it, because it's not a quality, it's a posession. Not only that, but they also don't run around in baggy fifty dollar pants, and black eye liner, and assume they are making some extreme statement to the world about how lonely they are in life. I've been there, done that. It's f*ing ignorant. You can rant and rave to me to explain that you dress that way because you like it, and that you call yourself goth because it's "Your scene" but you're lying. I don't buy that shit for one second. So before you go preaching and trying to teach me a lesson, it would probably be in your best interest to not be so "fraud" about it. No, Choco, you're not weak if you commit suicide. You're stupid. (I bet you thought I was going to say something sweet, sensetive, and emotional, huh?) There's no reason to be nice about it, in fear of how someone's going to take it, shit, if they hesitate to kill themselves, then they're more than likely not going to do it anyways. The only people that kill themselves, or attempt to, are a bunch of flaming idiots, and the people who support them with pats on the back, and cupcakes, are even dumber than them. Edit: Vamps, your exclamation points aren't making you're statements anymore powerful than you are assuming they already are. They just look stupid. __________________ .so what. -Skooter- .drama makes life boring.

08-12-2005, 12:08 PM	#144
Vamps FFR Player Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 64	excuse me...but i was BORN with depression..i do believe that makes it umm...maybe...AN INBALANCE!! i DONT run around in baggy $50 pants and black eyeliner...i rarely wear makeup...i cant afford fancy things like that! i am NOT flaunting the fact that i have depression...as a matter of fact i try to tell myself and my mother that i DONT have depression....but when you find yourself feeling depressed when there is absolutely NO logical reason to be depressed...you kinda assume that u have it. Not to mention the fact that my great-grandma, my grandma and my mum all have clinical depression...all of them severe clinical depression...it CAN be passed on genetically...i've done the research...not something id do if i was just depressed for the sake of being depressed or something. The "goth" thing...is just something im interested in...u stereotype waaaay too much! and as for emlamation marks...i just like using them...i couldnt care less about ur opinions. Try looking up a few facts before u go making comments about depression...if ud read the WHOLE 10 pages of the thread...you would realise what it looks like for some1 to be "flaunting" their depression! __________________ Romans 10: 14-15a \"How then can they call on the one they have not believed in? And how can they believe in the one of whom they have not heard? And how can they hear without someone preaching to them? And how can they preach unless they are sent?

08-12-2005, 02:34 PM	#145
Tokzic FFR Player Join Date: May 2005 Location: TGB Age: 36 Posts: 6,878	What do I think about suicide? I think suicide is the easy way out. Suicide is announcing to yourself that your problems are beyond being solvable and that because you let your existance become meaningless to you, you're going to end it. In other words, you're weak. All problems can be solved one way or another, and most problems can be lived with. As long as I'm enjoying parts of my life, which I make sure of, it'll always be worth living. Problems happen, and killing yourself is not a solution. What especially sickens me are those who get depressed over relationships. "oh he hates me im gona kil miself!!!1" Stupid. Get over it. In fact, to anyone considering suicide, I have this to say: You suck. Life pwnz you. Go get therapy. __________________ ~very popular guitar streamer~ Last edited by Tokzic: Today at 11:59 PM. Reason: wait what

08-15-2005, 02:17 AM	#147
-Skooter- FFR Player Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Computer ;) Posts: 316	Because they're idiots. Something ultimately can't exist if we as humans don't make it up and turn it into "the truth". __________________ .so what. -Skooter- .drama makes life boring.

08-16-2005, 07:22 AM	#148
Vamps FFR Player Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 64	uhh...where do u get that from? Trees, animals ect. existed BEFORE humans...so that theory doesnt work. And a chemical inbalance cant just exist simply because a human up and says it does! __________________ Romans 10: 14-15a \"How then can they call on the one they have not believed in? And how can they believe in the one of whom they have not heard? And how can they hear without someone preaching to them? And how can they preach unless they are sent?

08-16-2005, 12:59 PM	#149
shade11 FFR Player Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 373	Never good wasnt good wont be good it's no good. Who in their right ming would smoke Pot? It should be only meant for medical purposes.

08-17-2005, 10:53 AM	#151
-Skooter- FFR Player Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Computer ;) Posts: 316	Stupidity. That's right.Vamps, quit whining. My theory was based on psychological illness, not enviromental objects. __________________ .so what. -Skooter- .drama makes life boring.

08-18-2005, 04:38 AM	#152
Jam930 FFR Player Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 1,069	"What do you think? Should it be illegal? Why do people do it?" Well.. I was going to commit suicide but now that I see it's illegal... I'll just not and continue with my life. People do it because they feel they're trapped... there's no other way out of their situation that wouldn't completely rob them of their dignity... or something. I dunno. Maybe they had a breakup. __________________ -Jamie

08-18-2005, 05:57 AM	#153
Vamps FFR Player Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 64	depression is not soley a phsycological illness....there are a fair few cases where it is infact a chemical inbalance....this is clinical depression __________________ Romans 10: 14-15a \"How then can they call on the one they have not believed in? And how can they believe in the one of whom they have not heard? And how can they hear without someone preaching to them? And how can they preach unless they are sent?

08-18-2005, 06:18 AM	#154
-Skooter- FFR Player Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Computer ;) Posts: 316	No it isn't. I don't see clinically depressed people having time enough to squeeze into the threads everyday to every other day. Not to mention, I didn't say it was "soley" psychological, I said it was a mass majority. Read my posts thouroughly if you're going to respond. __________________ .so what. -Skooter- .drama makes life boring.

08-20-2005, 06:48 AM	#155
Vamps FFR Player Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 64	what does having clinical depression have to do with having the time to "squeeze into the threads everyday to every other day"?? having clinical depression doesnt mean u have less time in ur day than any other person __________________ Romans 10: 14-15a \"How then can they call on the one they have not believed in? And how can they believe in the one of whom they have not heard? And how can they hear without someone preaching to them? And how can they preach unless they are sent?

08-20-2005, 07:57 AM	#156
Tokzic FFR Player Join Date: May 2005 Location: TGB Age: 36 Posts: 6,878	Apparantly you don't think you have the time to put grammar into your posts. I don't blame you; sulking and brooding are time-consuming activities, you must be on a tight schedule. __________________ ~very popular guitar streamer~ Last edited by Tokzic: Today at 11:59 PM. Reason: wait what

08-20-2005, 09:40 AM	#157
chuandyou FFR Player Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: That place that has a famous tree Posts: 72	People want to kill themselves because they only face on the negatives. The way they were raised shows them not to look at the things that are good and positive, but the things that are bad an negative. They essentially dig themselves in a hole and bury themselves alive with the shovel their parents gave them. (its a metaphor, dumb f**k) __________________ FRUITYLICIOUS! Don't say I didn't warn you!!!

08-20-2005, 10:04 AM	#158
chickendude Away from Computer Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Massachusetts Age: 35 Posts: 1,901	hey man, nobody even said anything yet and you're flaming. Calm down dude __________________

08-20-2005, 12:45 PM	#159
Jam930 FFR Player Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 1,069	I think it all boils down to the fact that you have to take less crap when you're dead. __________________ -Jamie

08-20-2005, 04:43 PM	#160
Lor_Walz FFR Player Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 1	it would be usless to make suicide illegal I don't think that commiting suicide should be illegal, on the grounds that t would be a usless law. People will do it weither it is illegal or not. If they do not suceed however in their attempt, they should be sent to a rehibilitation facility in order to recieve physical and mental assistance. Arresting them will not serve any purpose, and they will more than likely look for a way to die in prison. Also, court justices would have a hard time convictng any "suicidals" for the fact that only the victim (if i may call them that) knows their intentions. Perhaps they were purly a vitim of cercumstance and had no intention of killing themselves. Where is the line also drawn between the intention of killing one's person, to simply hurting one's self to a certain degree, above death itself. Perhaps the person did not and had no intention of acually dying. Alright, I'm done heh.

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