The Syria Thread

[Arkuski]

I am surprised no one has made this yet. Share your thoughts on what is happening right now, your thoughts on Obama's decision, etc.

[Riotpolice]

Stop sending taxpayers dollars to other countries when they buy up arms with it and attack back at you. Pretty much that but there's tons more crap that happens besides that.

[Snowcrafta]

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[Lambdadelta]

Maybe it's because nobody wants to talk about it or don't care about it.
Just another war, nothing new.

[hi19hi19]

as far as i can tell it's a batshit insane dictator vs some batshit insane religious dudes

welcome to the middle east

[DossarLX ODI]

Originally Posted by Riotpolice

Stop sending taxpayers dollars to other countries when they buy up arms with it and attack back at you. Pretty much that but there's tons more crap that happens besides that.

That's a problem with the military industrial complex. America produces too many guns, and then they get into the wrong hands.

Also having the US intervene with other countries is debatable, but when there is chemical warfare, that is an extreme circumstance. It also doesn't help that the middle east has all the oil it needs.

[DotKritic]

Obama says he's going to Congress for authorization.

That's amazing.

[mi40]

Originally Posted by hi19hi19

as far as i can tell it's a batshit insane dictator vs some batshit insane religious dudes

welcome to the middle east

[Mollocephalus]

Last time the chemical weapons card was pulled, it was total bullshit and completely pretestuous, and i expect nothing different this time. How can you be so indifferent is just beyond me.

[Attractive]

Let's not kid ourselves. Western involvement is about controlling the region's resources. the u.s. really doesn't give a shit about human rights, so dont believe any politician when he says that he does. the u.s. is responsible for more war crimes than any other standing government and they will continue to commit war crimes for as long as possible. we also must realize that a lot of what is going on doesn't make it to the news stations and is classified info. Read Bitter Fruit, a book about the CIA's involvement in Guatemala in the 50's and you will see exactly what they are capable of. Iran in the 70's, Iraq in the 90's and 2000's, Afghanistan in 2001 using the whole "terrorism" pretext, Libya and now Syria(not counting all the other clandestine operations that have been going on in the middle east)... it's pretty obvious whats going on.. we're trying to make sure that nobody else gets the upper hand when it comes to controlling how things(oil, shipping routes, natural gas, pipelines, trade, etc) operate in that region.

[noname219]

Originally Posted by Attractive

Let's not kid ourselves. Western involvement is about oil and not much else. the u.s. really doesn't give a shit about human rights, so dont believe any politician when he says that he does. the u.s. is responsible for more war crimes than any other standing government and they will continue to commit war crimes for as long as possible. we also must realize that a lot of what is going on doesn't make it to the news stations and is classified info. Read Bitter Fruit, a book about the CIA's involvement in Guatemala in the 50's and you will see exactly what they are capable of. Iran in the 70's, iraq in the 90's and 2000's, afghanistan in 2001 using the whole "terrorism" pretext, and now syria(not counting all the other clandestine operations that have been going on in the middle east)... it's pretty obvious whats going on.. we're trying to make sure that nobody else gets the upper hand when it comes to controlling how the oil industry operates in that region.

More a political move than anything else.
Imagine if the president said he won't act in the conflict, the republicans would jump on this saying the president doesn't care about syrian civilians and how he won't do anything about foreign threats. Pure speculation, but it makes more sense to me than the oil-argument alone.

[Choofers]

let them kill each other, the middle east has been locked in war for quite some time

[Attractive]

Originally Posted by noname219

More a political move than anything else.
Imagine if the president said he won't act in the conflict, the republicans would jump on this saying the president doesn't care about syrian civilians and how he won't do anything about foreign threats. Pure speculation, but it makes more sense to me than the oil-argument alone.

That's a naive stance to have, this is a strategic decision and one that is more related to global politics than internal U.s. politics. Politicians are full of shit 100% of the time so please don't buy into their rhetoric. look at that map i provided and then think about the u.s.'s involvement in that region in recent decades.

[Pseudo Enigma]

I heard countries are siding with each other. Last time that happened... welp

[Attractive]

Originally Posted by Choofers

let them kill each other, the middle east has been locked in war for quite some time

That's what the u.s. is doing, they just want to be involved so that they can shape the conflict so that whoever comes out on top is aligned with U.S. interests.



to provide some context, here's a map showing all the (known) U.S. military bases in the region

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oh america cares too much? what's new

[Choofers]

Originally Posted by DossarLX ODI

America produces too many guns

false

and then they get into the wrong hands.

because we give them to the wrong people

Also having the US intervene with other countries is debatable

the us shouldn't be intervening at all, imo
but like attractive said, lol global politics

but when there is chemical warfare, that is an extreme circumstance.

remember that the same people that the assad regime bombed, are the people who are eating the hearts of their enemies

both parties are extremists and we really have no reason to intervene
let them kill each other

It also doesn't help that the middle east has all the oil it needs.

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[Arkuski]

Hype for 9/9

[Choofers]

america should invade america and help their government become stable

[adlp]

Originally Posted by Choofers

america should invade america and help their government become stable

we need more rand pauls