[S] Default Scroll Speed

**rushyrulz** · 03-7-2013, 11:12 AM

Suggestion: The default scroll speed for the engines new players start to play on should be increased to 1.25x-1.4x or the 1.0x C mod should be upped to those equivalent values since the current 1.0x (which is like C300 or something) is pretty slow even for a beginner. Of all the users I've referred to this game, I've told them to start at 1.25x and none have complained about the speed at that point. The main issue I see is that when I tell them to do so, they reply with "I don't want the song to be 1.25x harder/faster" thinking that speedmod is like a rate increase rather than a scroll speed increase. I think increasing the speedmod as a default would encourage people to get more into the game by not making the game so painfully slow.

At least require a brief tutorial on how the settings menu works ????

Discuss.

**Riotpolice** · 03-7-2013, 11:29 AM

Damn, this would be such a good idea. People would be overall better at this game by starting them out at a faster speed mod (1.25x) instead of starting them out at x1. I also agree on the "brief tutorial of how the menu works", it's tiring to have to teach a newbie how to use the menu in multiplayer over and over again. This is an overall great idea, and I support it.

**thesunfan** · 03-7-2013, 11:53 AM

I don't agree with forcing the tutorial on someone, but an optional one would be very nice. I also think upping the speedmod a bit, since most people aren't like Haku and think 1-1.2x is pretty slow.

**rushyrulz** · 03-7-2013, 12:05 PM

An optional one already exists here:

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I realize manditory tutorials are undesirable, but it's needed when you can write a small book with the optional one.

**Garquillex** · 03-7-2013, 01:20 PM

I've told everyone I've referred to start at 1.5x

I never saw any reason to start lower than that <_<

**rushyrulz** · 03-7-2013, 04:03 PM

bump. I want some more input on this.

**PriestREA** · 03-7-2013, 04:06 PM

I told my friend to start at 1.85 - he loves it xD
also I +1 this idea

Zapmeister · 03-7-2013, 08:03 PM

I've always been a 1x player ever since I started more than half a year ago. I suppose it's something I just get used to over time, but after reading this thread I thought I might play for a bit on 1.5x and this happened

[Mario Mix For Piano - 83-720-7-96-97 84c - not passing]
[Mario Mix For Piano - 65-797-13-73-71 127c]

I'm seriously not trying to hit goods on purpose. Maybe it's just that I've got used to 1x but I find that the arrows come unnaturally fast and I can't read the chart in time and when the rolls and fast bits come along I simply can't read them at all. My best on 1x speed is 25-5-0-0.

Any help, or is my destiny to be a 1x player forever?

**Hakulyte** · 03-7-2013, 08:57 PM

Force yourself to play 2.0x for one day, you won't be able to keep up at all, but you may be able to play 1.5x after that. It's really just visual adaptation.

I have the same issue as you tbh, it's just not as bad..

**alloyus** · 03-7-2013, 09:13 PM

when I started using speed mods I kept going up by .25 until I got used to it

**rushyrulz** · 03-10-2013, 08:01 PM

bump, I don't want this to get overlooked.

**Frank Munoz** · 03-10-2013, 09:37 PM

When I used to play, I would have to play according to how fast I could detect at that moment.

Ex: start at 1.75
multiple charts later 1.75 begins to feel a bit slow
move up to 1.85
same thing happens
move up to 2.0
feels comfortable
few rounds later 2.0 feels to fast,
move down to 1.85.

But starting at 1.0x is always bad. (fact)
+1 for atleast 1.25x

1.0x usually confuses a newbie and often times vets on account for the massive amount of arrows being displayed at once. Also, when the distance between arrows are large enough to fit a truck through one's focus is easily diverged.

**Gmanyo** · 03-30-2013, 01:10 AM

I concur. 1.25 would probably be the best; slower, however, can be good for people who don't play many video games at all, but that's hardly our target audience here.

03-7-2013, 11:12 AM	#1
rushyrulz Digital Dancing! Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 80 billion club, NE Age: 33 Posts: 12,985	[S] Default Scroll Speed Suggestion: The default scroll speed for the engines new players start to play on should be increased to 1.25x-1.4x or the 1.0x C mod should be upped to those equivalent values since the current 1.0x (which is like C300 or something) is pretty slow even for a beginner. Of all the users I've referred to this game, I've told them to start at 1.25x and none have complained about the speed at that point. The main issue I see is that when I tell them to do so, they reply with "I don't want the song to be 1.25x harder/faster" thinking that speedmod is like a rate increase rather than a scroll speed increase. I think increasing the speedmod as a default would encourage people to get more into the game by not making the game so painfully slow. At least require a brief tutorial on how the settings menu works ???? Discuss. __________________

03-7-2013, 01:20 PM	#5
Garquillex FFR Veteran Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Massachusetts Age: 35 Posts: 965	Re: [S] Default Scroll Speed I've told everyone I've referred to start at 1.5x I never saw any reason to start lower than that <_< __________________

03-7-2013, 04:03 PM	#6
rushyrulz Digital Dancing! Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 80 billion club, NE Age: 33 Posts: 12,985	Re: [S] Default Scroll Speed bump. I want some more input on this. __________________

03-7-2013, 04:06 PM	#7
PriestREA ddkdkd Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Vancouver Island Posts: 792	Re: [S] Default Scroll Speed I told my friend to start at 1.85 - he loves it xD also I +1 this idea __________________ Sent from my iPhone

03-7-2013, 08:03 PM	#8
Zapmeister FFR Player Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: England Posts: 466	Re: [S] Default Scroll Speed I've always been a 1x player ever since I started more than half a year ago. I suppose it's something I just get used to over time, but after reading this thread I thought I might play for a bit on 1.5x and this happened [Mario Mix For Piano - 83-720-7-96-97 84c - not passing] [Mario Mix For Piano - 65-797-13-73-71 127c] I'm seriously not trying to hit goods on purpose. Maybe it's just that I've got used to 1x but I find that the arrows come unnaturally fast and I can't read the chart in time and when the rolls and fast bits come along I simply can't read them at all. My best on 1x speed is 25-5-0-0. Any help, or is my destiny to be a 1x player forever? __________________ Theorem: If you have a large enough number of monkeys, and a large enough number of computer keyboards, one of them will sight-read AAA death piano on stealth. And the ffr community will forever worship it. Proof Example ask me anything here mashed FCs: 329 r1: 5 r2: 4 r3: 6 r4: 8 r5: 3 r6: 5 r7: 15 final position: 4th Last edited by Zapmeister; 11-14-2013 at 11:59 AM..

03-7-2013, 08:57 PM	#9
Hakulyte the Haku Join Date: Jul 2005 Age: 37 Posts: 4,539	Re: [S] Default Scroll Speed Force yourself to play 2.0x for one day, you won't be able to keep up at all, but you may be able to play 1.5x after that. It's really just visual adaptation. I have the same issue as you tbh, it's just not as bad..

03-7-2013, 09:13 PM	#10
alloyus ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Massachusetts Age: 33 Posts: 3,269	Re: [S] Default Scroll Speed when I started using speed mods I kept going up by .25 until I got used to it __________________ ^FFP_D0pey btw

03-10-2013, 08:01 PM	#11
rushyrulz Digital Dancing! Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 80 billion club, NE Age: 33 Posts: 12,985	Re: [S] Default Scroll Speed bump, I don't want this to get overlooked. __________________

03-10-2013, 09:37 PM	#12
Frank Munoz Muein Join Date: Nov 2007 Age: 32 Posts: 2,047	Re: [S] Default Scroll Speed When I used to play, I would have to play according to how fast I could detect at that moment. Ex: start at 1.75 multiple charts later 1.75 begins to feel a bit slow move up to 1.85 same thing happens move up to 2.0 feels comfortable few rounds later 2.0 feels to fast, move down to 1.85. But starting at 1.0x is always bad. (fact) +1 for atleast 1.25x 1.0x usually confuses a newbie and often times vets on account for the massive amount of arrows being displayed at once. Also, when the distance between arrows are large enough to fit a truck through one's focus is easily diverged. __________________ Unknown and Unofficial may the good arrow guide you

03-30-2013, 01:10 AM	#13
Gmanyo FFR Veteran Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 59	Re: [S] Default Scroll Speed I concur. 1.25 would probably be the best; slower, however, can be good for people who don't play many video games at all, but that's hardly our target audience here. __________________ where is the ga,me how do iplay it

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